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Garmin Forerunner 230 GPS Running Watch Refurb from $116 AC - Includes One Year Garmin Warranty

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GARMIN FORERUNNER 230 - Manufacturers refurbished with 1-Year Garmin Warranty
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Great deal. Can pick up a heart rate monitor for fairly cheap to complement as well
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In for 1. Thanks OP! Debated between this and the 235, but pulled the trigger on this good price.
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I can vouch that warranty is honored for Ebay Buy It Now purchases. I bought the Forerunner 225 refurbished last year on a Slickdeal, and worked great until this month when screen went wonky. No problem getting Garmin RMA and replacement unit.

Love the FR225, I believe Garmin changed HR monitor type completely in FR230 which early on ppl said was a bit wonky but may have been fixed now with FW updates.

EDIT: Turns out the FR230 does not have wrist-based heart rate... requires chest strap. The FR225 and FR235 have wrist-based HR tracking which is useful for zone training and reviewing your effort level (prevent overtraining). Deal breaker for me, but if you don't care about HR tracking (or mind wearing a chest strap) this looks like an awesome running watch.
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I can vouch that warranty is honored for Ebay Buy It Now purchases. I bought the Forerunner 225 refurbished last year on a Slickdeal, and worked great until this month when screen went wonky. No problem getting Garmin RMA and replacement unit.

Love the FR225, I believe Garmin changed HR monitor type completely in FR230 which early on ppl said was a bit wonky but may have been fixed now with FW updates.

EDIT: Turns out the FR230 does not have wrist-based heart rate... requires chest strap. The FR225 and FR235 have wrist-based HR tracking which is useful for zone training and reviewing your effort level (prevent overtraining). Deal breaker for me, but if you don't care about HR tracking (or mind wearing a chest strap) this looks like an awesome running watch.
hr monitor on wrist is garbage, you need chest strap to get the best and most accurate reading. that is why i went with the 230 with chest strap instead of the 235. I had the wrist hr monitor and it isn't accurate, on top of that it kills the battery super fast. this is the way to go, never get a wrist hr monitor.

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hr monitor on wrist is garbage, you need chest strap to get the best and most accurate reading. that is why i went with the 230 with chest strap instead of the 235. I had the wrist hr monitor and it isn't accurate, on top of that it kills the battery super fast. this is the way to go, never get a wrist hr monitor.
Disagree. My Forerunner 225 is spot on for heart rate. I have a chest strap and have run with both, they are identical with deviation of less than 2 beats throughout speedwork, hills, and regular runs.

I also did a stress test in my cardiologist office and my watch matched their EKG exactly throughout the whole test... which solidified accuracy for me.

That said, a chest strap is closer to the heart and woukd probably be the more accurate of the two. But the wrist monitor is (at least in my case) 99.9% as accurate and much more convenient, I woukd never buy a watch without it (personal preference). Many experienced runners could care less about HR and just use RPE... I however find it useful to prevent overtraining.
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Disagree. My Forerunner 225 is spot on for heart rate. I have a chest strap and have run with both, they are identical with deviation of less than 2 beats throughout speedwork, hills, and regular runs.

I also did a stress test in my cardiologist office and my watch matched their EKG exactly throughout the whole test... which solidified accuracy for me.

That said, a chest strap is closer to the heart and woukd probably be the more accurate of the two. But the wrist monitor is (at least in my case) 99.9% as accurate and much more convenient, I woukd never buy a watch without it (personal preference). Many experienced runners could care less about HR and just use RPE... I however find it useful to prevent overtraining.
What do you look for in the data to determine "overtraining"? I've been running and doing tris for several years without using an HR monitor. If I had overtrained what would that feel like and what would be the negative impact? I tend to train less than other folks but at higher intensity and have found it gives more bang for the buck, and in races I stick with people who regularly slog out miles. So I am not sure I would want to dial it back. I currently use a 920xt and have stayed away from the HR models due to not liking the protruding bump on the back of the watch. I notice on the newest models the HR bump appears to have been reduced which should be a good thing for persons who find the bump uncomfortable.
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What do you look for in the data to determine "overtraining"? I've been running and doing tris for several years without using an HR monitor. If I had overtrained what would that feel like and what would be the negative impact? I tend to train less than other folks but at higher intensity and have found it gives more bang for the buck, and in races I stick with people who regularly slog out miles. So I am not sure I would want to dial it back. I currently use a 920xt and have stayed away from the HR models due to not liking the protruding bump on the back of the watch. I notice on the newest models the HR bump appears to have been reduced which should be a good thing for persons who find the bump uncomfortable.
It's basically the same method the FR230 op posted calculates recovery time ( a cool feature of the watch). But FR230 requires you to use a chest strap, since it doesn't have built in HR tracking.

You can check for recovery by tracking your morning heart rate Track your morning heart rate for several days before getting out of bed. This is your baseline. There will be some variance, but usually within a couple beats. If you see a high pulse (7 beats or more above normal) one morning you are not recovered and need more rest (either that, or you are about to get sick). You can also do the same thing by comparing your current run to past efforts... if you notice a much higher pace, you are likely overtraining.


http://www.runnersworld.com/for-b...-a-workout

http://running.competitor.com/201...ulse_63593

http://www.runnersworld.com/sweat...ertraining

https://runnersconnect.net/overtr...eart-rate/
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It's basically the same method the FR230 op posted calculates recovery time ( a cool feature of the watch). But FR230 requires you to use a chest strap, since it doesn't have built in HR tracking.

You can check for recovery by tracking your morning heart rate Track your morning heart rate for several days before getting out of bed. This is your baseline. There will be some variance, but usually within a couple beats. If you see a high pulse (7 beats or more above normal) one morning you are not recovered and need more rest (either that, or you are about to get sick). You can also do the same thing by comparing your current run to past efforts... if you notice a much higher pace, you are likely overtraining.


http://www.runnersworld.com/for-b...-a-workout

http://running.competitor.com/201...ulse_63593

http://www.runnersworld.com/sweat...ertraining

https://runnersconnect.net/overtr...eart-rate/
Thanks for the info. I've been meaning to track some HR metrics after someone else also recommended trying it several months back. I have an HR strap that works with my 920xt although haven't used it much. Maybe I will try a few weeks leading up to my next race - would be interesting to see what is shows about my training methods in terms of the HR baseline and recovery you mentioned.
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Heads up to everyone that the price on the second seller has been lowered to $109.59 after 20% coupon. So get while it's in stock.

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Fo...1845467860
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Confused. $109.59 through these guys...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/232282133748

Cheaper, no?

What the guy above said... Smilie
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Dpaddler did you do this deal since we missed out on the other?
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Dpaddler did you do this deal since we missed out on the other?
Nope. I'm sporting the Amazfit for now. $103. Haven't had a chance to run with it, but at the gym it's been pretty good, and it's easy as pie to transfer music via USB. So I'll give this a go for the summer to see if it truly can be my one watch to rule them all. I have the older firmware so I can root it and put on the Pacified firmware which is the Chinese based ROM that gets updated more frequently until they ultimately merge the two ROM's. I just wish it sat on my wrist nicer. The feet that hold the strap in place sit too low on the watch and make it feel and look like it sits on top of my wrist instead of just on my wrist. Kind of a dumb design, but what do you expect from China? Almost every product they pump out seems to have some flaw to keep it from being perfect.

And I think I'd give the Vivoactive HR a fair shake before picking up another 230. Maybe. I'm not all about looks, but I do prefer a round face over the square. It'd be a tough call between the run specific metrics and nicer style vs the barometric sensor and built in HR.
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