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Resolution: 2560x1440
Refresh Rate: 144Hz
Panel Type: TN
Response Time: 1ms (Fast Mode)
Contrast Ratio: 1000:1
Viewing Angles: 170° (H) / 160° (V)
Inputs:
1x HDMI
1x Display Port
4x USB 3.0
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While, I'm glad my monitor is still holding its value, why hasn't this monitor decreased in price over the last 2 years its been on the market. Its dropped maybe 15% since it was introduced.
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1. 1080p @ 60hz is and will remain the golden median for a good while to come. Anything less will be subpar, anything more you'll get quickly diminishing returns.

2. TN is indeed less nice to look at than IPS. However, the price & technology difference is substantial and TBH you buy these 144hz monitors to play games, not to do work. There ARE monitors that are both IPS & 144hz, but IMHO they are not ideal configurations.

Allow me to explain.

It's really hard to drive games at anywhere close to 144hz. A typical AAA game on ultra with everything on will have a really hard time getting even 120fps stable on anything less than an i7-3770 & GTX 1080, both modestly overclocked. Think ROTR, W3, BF1, R6, GRW. And this is at 1080P!!!

Right now, TTBOMK, there are NO IPS 144hz 24" monitors, only 27" and above and 1440p.

So, think about this. In order to drive an AAA title @ even near 144hz, at 1440p, you are going to need at least an i7 Skylake and a GTX 1080ti.

Therefore, this is my recommendation.

1. If you have lots of play money, get that 144hz IPS, that Skylake, and a 1080ti. Heck, get two and SLI. You'll get a solid 144fps no matter what you are playing/doing. I thought about doing that, but I just can't stand paying for the far end of the diminishing returns curve. But it sure is nice.

2. If you are a middle class consumer, choose either 1080p 144hz 24" or 1440p 60hz 27". Gsync or Freesync as you will depending on what card you want. The best bang for buck imho is 1080p 24" TN panel Freesync with AMD rx480.

3. If you are a poor, and we all have been, then get a budget 1080p 24" IPS @ 60hz and 5 or less MS for about $125. You'll have great experience working and watching movies and lets face it you are probably only going to get a GTX 1060 or the like, around $200, right?

Any of the above will give you great satisfaction and having used all 3 I can say that really, I enjoyed them all.
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While, I'm glad my monitor is still holding its value, why hasn't this monitor decreased in price over the last 2 years its been on the market. Its dropped maybe 15% since it was introduced.
The underlining technology I guess. G-sync boards that these monitors use have not bugged in price at all. Dell or any other company to that matter don't have a competing panel with same or better feature set at a cheaper price point.
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1. 1080p @ 60hz is and will remain the golden median for a good while to come. Anything less will be subpar, anything more you'll get quickly diminishing returns.

2. TN is indeed less nice to look at than IPS. However, the price & technology difference is substantial and TBH you buy these 144hz monitors to play games, not to do work. There ARE monitors that are both IPS & 144hz, but IMHO they are not ideal configurations.

Allow me to explain.

It's really hard to drive games at anywhere close to 144hz. A typical AAA game on ultra with everything on will have a really hard time getting even 120fps stable on anything less than an i7-3770 & GTX 1080, both modestly overclocked. Think ROTR, W3, BF1, R6, GRW. And this is at 1080P!!!

Right now, TTBOMK, there are NO IPS 144hz 24" monitors, only 27" and above and 1440p.

So, think about this. In order to drive an AAA title @ even near 144hz, at 1440p, you are going to need at least an i7 Skylake and a GTX 1080ti.

Therefore, this is my recommendation.

1. If you have lots of play money, get that 144hz IPS, that Skylake, and a 1080ti. Heck, get two and SLI. You'll get a solid 144fps no matter what you are playing/doing. I thought about doing that, but I just can't stand paying for the far end of the diminishing returns curve. But it sure is nice.

2. If you are a middle class consumer, choose either 1080p 144hz 24" or 1440p 60hz 27". Gsync or Freesync as you will depending on what card you want. The best bang for buck imho is 1080p 24" TN panel Freesync with AMD rx480.

3. If you are a poor, and we all have been, then get a budget 1080p 24" IPS @ 60hz and 5 or less MS for about $125. You'll have great experience working and watching movies and lets face it you are probably only going to get a GTX 1060 or the like, around $200, right?

Any of the above will give you great satisfaction and having used all 3 I can say that really, I enjoyed them all.
If you have a GTX 1080 or higher, this monitor especially with G-Sync is superior to 60 Hz. Even 100+ fps by adjusting settings is way smoother than 60 fps to the point that the game feels broken playing at those low frames.

This monitor is amazing, and with G-Sync, all the games are smooth
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Just keep in mind that your body can only process as fast as 10 MS to twitch response, false starts in Olympics are anything before 10 ms.

So technically any hertz over 100 will be overkill.

Next keep. In kind that there is input lag usually of around 10 ms on good gaming. Monitors. So you will always generally be one frame behind of the real action.

Lastly, gsync may cause increased input lag for your games, you should research appropriate settings for your game/games.

For example, in overwatch, many play with it off.
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1. 1080p @ 60hz is and will remain the golden median for a good while to come. Anything less will be subpar, anything more you'll get quickly diminishing returns.

2. TN is indeed less nice to look at than IPS. However, the price & technology difference is substantial and TBH you buy these 144hz monitors to play games, not to do work. There ARE monitors that are both IPS & 144hz, but IMHO they are not ideal configurations.

Allow me to explain.

It's really hard to drive games at anywhere close to 144hz. A typical AAA game on ultra with everything on will have a really hard time getting even 120fps stable on anything less than an i7-3770 & GTX 1080, both modestly overclocked. Think ROTR, W3, BF1, R6, GRW. And this is at 1080P!!!

Right now, TTBOMK, there are NO IPS 144hz 24" monitors, only 27" and above and 1440p.

So, think about this. In order to drive an AAA title @ even near 144hz, at 1440p, you are going to need at least an i7 Skylake and a GTX 1080ti.

Therefore, this is my recommendation.

1. If you have lots of play money, get that 144hz IPS, that Skylake, and a 1080ti. Heck, get two and SLI. You'll get a solid 144fps no matter what you are playing/doing. I thought about doing that, but I just can't stand paying for the far end of the diminishing returns curve. But it sure is nice.

2. If you are a middle class consumer, choose either 1080p 144hz 24" or 1440p 60hz 27". Gsync or Freesync as you will depending on what card you want. The best bang for buck imho is 1080p 24" TN panel Freesync with AMD rx480.

3. If you are a poor, and we all have been, then get a budget 1080p 24" IPS @ 60hz and 5 or less MS for about $125. You'll have great experience working and watching movies and lets face it you are probably only going to get a GTX 1060 or the like, around $200, right?

Any of the above will give you great satisfaction and having used all 3 I can say that really, I enjoyed them all.
I don't think people getting these monitors are getting them for the sole purpose of 144Hz refresh rates.

Couple other things to consider:
1. G-sync keeps the tearing in games to a minimum
2. 27 inch is an upgrade over there old 21 or 24 inch
3. 3 years of Dell warranty

Even if you don't get all of the 144hz when you use this monitor from your GPU and lets say only 100fps. It will be a HUGE difference nonetheless over a 4-7ms panel with no g-sync.
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Just keep in mind that your body can only process as fast as 10 MS to twitch response, false starts in Olympics are anything before 10 ms.

So technically any hertz over 100 will be overkill.

Next keep. In kind that there is input lag usually of around 10 ms on good gaming. Monitors. So you will always generally be one frame behind of the real action.

Lastly, gsync may cause increased input lag for your games, you should research appropriate settings for your game/games.

For example, in overwatch, many play with it off.
Lol ok, I can definitely tell the difference between 100 and 144, also there are settings to get the best of both worlds with regards to frame rate and G-Sync, you cap your FPS
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I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I think effective speaking for fps performance and reaction time relationship in addition to input lag, anything over 100 hrtz is probably not going to impact your play.

Now, your brain might process the images faster than 100hrtz, and it will be more smooth.

That would be great for non fps reaction time games.

But remember people who are competitively gaming are looking for the lowest latencies as possible and tend to sacrifice quality for performance.

Just need to keep in mind what you are planning to do and play on this monitor.
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In before someone says "but it was $300 on Black Friday, not a slickdeal, TD"
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So, think about this. In order to drive an AAA title @ even near 144hz, at 1440p, you are going to need at least an i7 Skylake and a GTX 1080ti.
My AMD 8320 and GTX 970 SLI setup beg to differ on the requirements you have for FPS.
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This is normal Best Buy pricing on an every other week interval, one week the 24" is on sale and the next week it's the 27". It's like clockwork!
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I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I think effective speaking for fps performance and reaction time relationship in addition to input lag, anything over 100 hrtz is probably not going to impact your play.

Now, your brain might process the images faster than 100hrtz, and it will be more smooth.

That would be great for non fps reaction time games.

But remember people who are competitively gaming are looking for the lowest latencies as possible and tend to sacrifice quality for performance.

Just need to keep in mind what you are planning to do and play on this monitor.
The vast, vast, vast majority of people who buy 144hz monitors (or any gaming item for that matter) aren't competitive or anywhere near good enough at any of these games to justify the added options.

They're more like me, I think - I like smooth, tear free screens with nimble pixel changes. It's purely for visual effect, and that's really it.

I used to have the official MLG gaming monitor. It was the Acer 23" and that thing cost like $120. So, as you pointed out, pro gamers care much more about latencies, etc than how good it looks. Oh, and who sponsors them.
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The vast, vast, vast majority of people who buy 144hz monitors (or any gaming item for that matter) aren't competitive or anywhere near good enough at any of these games to justify the added options.

They're more like me, I think - I like smooth, tear free screens with nimble pixel changes. It's purely for visual effect, and that's really it.

I used to have the official MLG gaming monitor. It was the Acer 23" and that thing cost like $120. So, as you pointed out, pro gamers care much more about latencies, etc than how good it looks. Oh, and who sponsors them.
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Well, my basic point is: keep in mind of what you are playing and if it applies to your game or games that you play.

You don't need to be a pro to want to play competitively in a MOBA/ fps / RTS - etc. You don't need to be good to be playing in a ladder and want the best gear.

However, this may not be the best gear. A lot of people are looking for gsync to match up with the card they have but don't necessarily realize what their optimal settings are going to be to have the ideal gaming condition for their game.

I agree completely with your post above about keeping your computer at 144 hrtz.

While capping the frames below the refresh rate of the monitor will reduce VSYNC and Gsync switching and reduce input lag.

This is VERY game specific. As for overwatch, which I play, the jury definitely is not out.
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Well, my basic point is: keep in mind of what you are playing and if it applies to your game or games that you play.

You don't need to be a pro to want to play competitively in a MOBA/ fps / RTS - etc. You don't need to be good to be playing in a ladder and want the best gear.

However, this may not be the best gear. A lot of people are looking for gsync to match up with the card they have but don't necessarily realize what their optimal settings are going to be to have the ideal gaming condition for their game.

I agree completely with your post above about keeping your computer at 144 hrtz.

While capping the frames below the refresh rate of the monitor will reduce VSYNC and Gsync switching and reduce input lag.

This is VERY game specific. As for overwatch, which I play, the jury definitely is not out.
Yes, indeed. I don't know how pro gamers are able to handle even a slight amount of screen tearing. It drives me nuts.

It's probably also worth mentioning that Gsync is only for when you are UNDER your monitor's refresh rate. furthermore, many people play with vsync on as well as gsync. vsync caps the refresh rate @ 143.98hz, gsync takes care of the rest. riva or the game app can also cap fps to 143 or less as well.
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