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been following this on ccc, it dropped to 300 at one point
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I bought one at a higher price to replace a really old cpap I had. I have to say I was pretty surprised and disappointed with it. It's like cpap technology is somehow 10 years behind all other technology. This doesn't have a touch screen it has that annoying wheel/button on the front. It doesn't have any Bluetooth connectivity or convenient way to preheat the humidifier. The preheat takes 2 button presses and 2 dial turns. It should have Bluetooth app that I can turn on preheat from the living room before bed. This is among basic tech these days that cpap is lacking for no apparent reason. It's not like regulated air pressure is high tech stuff. So idk how med companies are charging over $1,000 for these when hospitals and insurance companies get involved.
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I bought one at a higher price to replace a really old cpap I had. I have to say I was pretty surprised and disappointed with it. It's like cpap technology is somehow 10 years behind all other technology. This doesn't have a touch screen it has that annoying wheel/button on the front. It doesn't have any Bluetooth connectivity or convenient way to preheat the humidifier. The preheat takes 2 button presses and 2 dial turns. It should have Bluetooth app that I can turn on preheat from the living room before bed. This is among basic tech these days that cpap is lacking for no apparent reason. It's not like regulated air pressure is high tech stuff. So idk how med companies are charging over $1,000 for these when hospitals and insurance companies get involved.
I used to work in the industry and you have no idea the amount of red tape / regulation hoops they have to jump through just to design one of these.

Then any change in design (different screw size, or connector, etc) requires partial to full FDA recertification...

There is quite some technology in there (turbine design, CPAP algorithms, etc) but it's a very risk adverse industry (lawsuits galore) so they prefer building something basic that works for it's intended purpose and not focus too much on bells and whistles: too much risk of failure

Besides, at this price it's a "steal"! They do run $500-$1000 on average. Then it's the Gillette effect : have to buy supplies (masks, tubes, etc)...

hearsay (never tested myself) : some 3rd world countries wash and sterilize the masks and tubes until they fall apart : get many months of use per set. The Respironics ones are REALLY well built and last forever (even though they're supposed to be disposed of frequently)
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Many cpap machines may be re-steralized returns. Places often say they needed to pre-program it with setup or prescription details. Im ok with that though becauseof the price savings and they really are as good as new.

The 'nee tech' is not so new. If you can still get the previous versions, you can get amazing pricing.

Personally, id rather buy the previous generation but move up the feature list... APAP, BI-PAP etc.
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It's dropped to $347 now.
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I used to work in the industry and you have no idea the amount of red tape / regulation hoops they have to jump through just to design one of these.

Then any change in design (different screw size, or connector, etc) requires partial to full FDA recertification...

There is quite some technology in there (turbine design, CPAP algorithms, etc) but it's a very risk adverse industry (lawsuits galore) so they prefer building something basic that works for it's intended purpose and not focus too much on bells and whistles: too much risk of failure

Besides, at this price it's a "steal"! They do run $500-$1000 on average. Then it's the Gillette effect : have to buy supplies (masks, tubes, etc)...

hearsay (never tested myself) : some 3rd world countries wash and sterilize the masks and tubes until they fall apart : get many months of use per set. The Respironics ones are REALLY well built and last forever (even though they're supposed to be disposed of frequently)
^^^^this.

The regulations and lawsuits are what keep the medical device and pharmaceutical industry using cutting edge 1990's technology.
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went up again
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Many cpap machines may be re-steralized returns. Places often say they needed to pre-program it with setup or prescription details. Im ok with that though becauseof the price savings and they really are as good as new.

The 'nee tech' is not so new. If you can still get the previous versions, you can get amazing pricing.

Personally, id rather buy the previous generation but move up the feature list... APAP, BI-PAP etc.
I currently have a PR System One 460 CPAP. I was planning on buying a refurb/used or possibly even new 560 to get the APAP functionality. But even those cost more than this deal, so it's a no brainer for me to move from CPAP -> APAP for this price.

I don't really know why its so cheap. Possibly refurbs being sold as new, but I would gladly pay $360 or so for a refurb APAP too. Will check the hours when I receive mine,

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Can anyone tell me what else I need to use this? Like the breathing tube and stuff
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Can anyone tell me what else I need to use this? Like the breathing tube and stuff
You're going to need a mask
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I used to work in the industry and you have no idea the amount of red tape / regulation hoops they have to jump through just to design one of these.

Then any change in design (different screw size, or connector, etc) requires partial to full FDA recertification...

There is quite some technology in there (turbine design, CPAP algorithms, etc) but it's a very risk adverse industry (lawsuits galore) so they prefer building something basic that works for it's intended purpose and not focus too much on bells and whistles: too much risk of failure

Besides, at this price it's a "steal"! They do run $500-$1000 on average. Then it's the Gillette effect : have to buy supplies (masks, tubes, etc)...

hearsay (never tested myself) : some 3rd world countries wash and sterilize the masks and tubes until they fall apart : get many months of use per set. The Respironics ones are REALLY well built and last forever (even though they're supposed to be disposed of frequently)
Aw boo hoo for them. Poor fellas we should start a kickstarter page. Other companies seem to suck it just fine and put out advanced medical tech.
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Sigh. This machine cost me $760 from my sleep doctor 1.5 years ago. This is a great price.

This has been a great machine for me. No problems with it. It's easy to use and clean.

I purchased the Respironics Dreamwear Nasal Mask [amazon.com], and it was one of the best purchases I've made. It was a huge improvement over the nasal pillow mask I was using previously. The best thing about this mask is that the tube comes out on top of your head, which allows you to lay comfortably on your back or side, and the tube doesn't feel like it's pulling away from your face. I paid $75 for this mask, and it was way worth it (looks like it's $60 right now).

If you need a replacement heated tube for this CPAP machine, I got mine from Amazon [amazon.com] as well.
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Can anyone tell me what else I need to use this? Like the breathing tube and stuff
This model comes with a heated tube and humidifier
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