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Annke Cube Camera (possibly, maybe, hopefully, a Hikvision rebrand?) - $50 - Newegg Flash

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2MP, 1080P POE Cube camera that exactly resembles a Hikvision for $50. If this is in fact a Hikvision then it's a complete steal at this price!!

I bought one in hopes that I'm correct. I guess time (or someone more knowledgeable?) will tell...

https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA7EX59A1584

Key Features:


State-of-Art PIR Detection: It can detect any creature that have a body temperature, with 80°detection angle and 10m/32ft detection range, nothing will ever escape.
Wireless Freedom: Easily one touch Wi-Fi or WPS network connection. It is suitable for indoor monitor space with HD image quality. You can put it anywhere you want to monitor.

Mobile Push Alarm: Once PIR detection or motion detection is triggered in your house, an instant mobile push notification or alarming email will be sent to your phone, so you can take precautions before it is too late.

Support Power over Ethernet (PoE): Equipped with PoE interface, you can get your camera connected to a PoE NVR or router, and then no power adapter is needed anymore.

Smart VCA (Video Content Analysis): support line crossing and intrusion detection, and it is compatible with NVR for the second time of video searching and analyzing.

Specifications:
Image Sensor: 1/2.8" Progressive Scan CMOS
Lens: 4mm@ F2.0, Angle of view: 85°
Day & Night: IR cut filter with auto switch
WDR: Digital WDR
Max. Resolution: 1920 × 1080
Image Enhancement: BLC/3D DNR/ROI
Video Compression: H.264/MJPEG
Audio input/output: Two-way audio (built-in microphone and speaker)
Network Storage: NAS, Built-in Micro SD/SDHC/SDXC card slot, up to 128 GB
Wireless network: Wi-Fi(IEEE802.11b/g/n)
Network Standard: ONVIF,PSIA,CGI,ISAPI
Communication Interface: 1 RJ45 10M/100M Ethernet interface
PIR: Angle: 80°,Range: 10m
IR Range: 10 meters
Dimensions: 72.3×89.9×131.3 mm

What's included?
* 1×1080P Wireless IP Camera
*1×Mounting Base
* 1×Power Adapter
* 1×Quick Start Guide
* 1×Ethernet Cable
* 1×Software CD
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I don't know about this specific camera, but in general you need to be very careful with these Chinese supplied cameras... even if they are Hikvision brand. These lower price cameras are made for China market / region and the firmware supplied for the US and other English speaking countries won't work on them... so potentially no firmware / security updates in the future.
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I'd be down for it, but it doesn't ship to PR. 50 bucks for a small POE 2MP cam isn't bad at all. As others say all the time, change the admin password, and don't give it internet access (block it on your firewall).
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Has Annke ever shown any kind of investment in outer tech, let alone a branding that far larger and more advanced, like Hikvision? More likely an online quicky promotion, and essentially misleading.
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I don't know about this specific camera, but in general you need to be very careful with these Chinese supplied cameras... even if they are Hikvision brand. These lower price cameras are made for China market / region and the firmware supplied for the US and other English speaking countries won't work on them... so potentially no firmware / security updates in the future.
That's not a major issue to me as I'll have this camera completely locked down. Also, Annke is a US based company, so if they're rebranding a Hikvision, I'd hope they're also releasing firmware updates.

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I'd be down for it, but it doesn't ship to PR. 50 bucks for a small POE 2MP cam isn't bad at all. As others say all the time, change the admin password, and don't give it internet access (block it on your firewall).
That is exactly what I did to a Hikvision branded cube cam that I bought years ago. I have very little concerns for the firmware as my cam is on lockdown.


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Has Annke ever shown any kind of investment in outer tech, let alone a branding that far larger and more advanced, like Hikvision? More likely an online quicky promotion, and essentially misleading.
That's a good question... hopefully someone with knowledge can say for sure.
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It's definitely a Hikvision OEM camera.

You take a chance (both with this cam, and even with real Hiks sold in the US) that it's a Chinese language or multilanguage version. Neither of which will accept English firmware upgrades.

If you get this cam, and if it's an English regional cam you will certainly be able to update it using the firmware from Hikvision's site for this specific cam. At $50 it seems reasonable to take the chance. Definitely check the return policy for Newegg Flash to see what can be done for you.

Note that the listing *does not* say "please do not update the firmware for this camera." I'd feel safer buying this camera for this reason, since if you update the firmware and brick it, you can say "I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that" as your reason for returning it.

Anyway, $50 for this camera is an ok price, considering it's 2-3 generations old.
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so if you want some sort of US warranty/firmware support, what's the best option? I'd prefer one of the 3-4MB cube cameras but just so confused at all of the hikvision/OEM options.
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That's not a major issue to me as I'll have this camera completely locked down. Also, Annke is a US based company, so if they're rebranding a Hikvision, I'd hope they're also releasing firmware updates.



That is exactly what I did to a Hikvision branded cube cam that I bought years ago. I have very little concerns for the firmware as my cam is on lockdown.
but then you can't control it remotely?
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Trying to get Amazon to PM. Sent them the lower price alert; if they don't respond by lowering soon, I'll contact CS and see if they will. I just think their return policy is so much easier.
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but then you can't control it remotely?
I can connect into my network via VPN to connect remotely to my cam.
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So I grabbed a few hoping they're worth it. I'm half tempted to try flashing Hikvision firmware but I'm thinking I'll try the stock firmware first. Is anyone planning on attempting to flash Hikvision firmware? Do you really think it'll take? And won't break anything?
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So I grabbed a few hoping they're worth it. I'm half tempted to try flashing Hikvision firmware but I'm thinking I'll try the stock firmware first. Is anyone planning on attempting to flash Hikvision firmware? Do you really think it'll take? And won't break anything?
Probably a good idea since Hikvision has had various vulnerabilities and firmware updates since these likely were made. I looked but didn't see that Annke had any firmware for this one on their site. Camera model prefix looks to be I61DR

http://www.annke.com/support-download

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The download links are not available now. Please contact support@annke.com for more help.
Don't know about using the Hik firmware. Don't have any other of their cams but just reading and watching in passing over time seems like they can be kind of picky about versions, order, etc. I'm just going to lock mine down well and let somebody else go first for that one. ; )
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Probably a good idea since Hikvision has had various vulnerabilities and firmware updates since these likely were made. I looked but didn't see that Annke had any firmware for this one on their site. Camera model prefix looks to be I61DR

http://www.annke.com/support-download



Don't know about using the Hik firmware. Don't have any other of their cams but just reading and watching in passing over time seems like they can be kind of picky about versions, order, etc. I'm just going to lock mine down well and let somebody else go first for that one. ; )
Well it didn't like the Hikvision firmware. Fortunately it didn't brick anything, but it didn't get very far either. It just comes back with an error saying the firmware is the wrong kind or something to that effect. Oh well...
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Well it didn't like the Hikvision firmware. Fortunately it didn't brick anything, but it didn't get very far either. It just comes back with an error saying the firmware is the wrong kind or something to that effect. Oh well...
Thanks for taking one for the team.

The Newegg deal is over but in case anyone's still looking, Annke now has these for the same price with free shipping:

https://www.annkesecurity.com/wir...audio.html

Nice little cameras. I may grab a couple more.
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Bumping this thread to make those who bought these cams aware:

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Access control bypass in Hikvision IP Cameras
From: Monte Crypto <mc_noreply () mailfence com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 04:19:00 +0200 (CEST)
Access control bypass in Hikvision IP Cameras
Full disclosure
Sep 12, 2017

Synopsis:
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Many Hikvision IP cameras contain a backdoor that allows unauthenticated impersonation of any configured user account.
The vulnerability has been present in Hikvision products since at least 2014. In addition to Hikvision-branded devices,
it affects many white-labeled camera products sold under a variety of brand names. Hundreds of thousands of vulnerable
devices are still exposed to the Internet at the time of publishing. In addition to gaining full administrative access,
the vulnerability can be used to retrieve plain-text passwords for all configured users.

Risk and Mitigation:
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The vulnerability poses a severe risk. Because the vulnerability is trivial to exploit, it is recommended that you
immediately upgrade or disconnect all Hikvision products from the Internet or untrusted networks, or at least implement
network access control rules that only allow trusted IP addresses to initiate connections to vulnerable devices. Keep
in mind that many Hikvision IP cameras come with UPNP enabled by default and can expose themselves to the Internet
automatically. Hikvision released firmware updates for many camera models where backdoor code is removed. If an update
is available for your devlice, you should install it as soon as possible.
Details here:
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2017/Sep/23

I have confirmed that this applies to the camera here. It's trivial to exploit. All that you need to do is hit the camera using various URLs. All security is bypassed. No big deal in my particular case since they're all behind a firewall and VPNed off but if you have it port forwarded or otherwise hanging off of the Internet then you might want to be concerned. This will get a lot of attention given that Hikvision is one the largest camera makers and there will be botnets and everyone else searching them out to take over.

Ankee support is useless for now. The latest firmware that they have is vulnerable. I tired to make the dopey first line tech support understand that this was a significant issue given that lots of their relabeled cameras likely are subject to the same and after going back and forth with them saying that it wasn't a problem, they told me that "As a technical support, we know better for our product."

Yeah, good luck with that. lol
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