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Nest Protect (3-pack) Sam's Club - $241

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Nest protect 3 pack at Sam's club is marked down from 289 to 241 ($80 each)

Edit to answer qs....: Battery-powered ones. Mine say replace in June 2026.
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Are they wired, battery or do they have both?

Also, if you have opened then, what is the manufacturing date?
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I called Sam's Club and confirmed the discounted price in store. They described it as a "cancelled item" -- not sure if that means a 3rd gen is right around the corner or they're simply no longer going to carry the product.
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Good deal, and good price - thumbs up and reps for the OP.

However...Smilie
I recently discovered that smoke detectors need to be replaced every ~8-10 years. We have a whopping 9 in our house.
While researching the best options for replacements I ultimately decided to try out the Halo smoke alarm with weather alerts. I've had one installed for about 3 weeks now and have been happy.
Seems to have all the smart features of the Nest with a few big advantages:
-Dual smoke sensors - AFAIK the only detector that offers both types in one package
-Works with existing detector wiring (if you have it) so it can be a 100% hard wired solution, unlike Nest's need to rely on their own wireless mesh network.
-10 year battery - uses a sealed rechargeable LiON battery versus the 6 AA's that Nest estimates will need replacement every 2 years
-Offers a model with an integrated weather radio to warn of dangerous weather events in your area.

The two big disadvantages are price ($99 for the base model, $130 for the model with weather alerts) and it's a brand new product with no track record.
I typically wait for new, cool things like this to be on at least version 2.0 before investing, but my detectors died at an inopportune time, so I'm having to decide sooner than I'd like.


Home Depot and Lowe's both sell the Halo's:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-S.../300388846

Install was a 10 minute job. Wiring harness is the same as the First Alert system I am replacing. The Halo app on iOS works great so far.

Hope someone else can benefit from the way too much time I've spent researching all this.
There are a couple of other smart smoke alarms due to hit the market within a year or so, so unless you are certain the Nest Protect is the alarm for you, you might want to waste half a day reading up on all this Big Grin
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wonder if i should mix and match smoke/co2 detectors. just put in 3 halos. 3 nests should be ok right? all connected by smartthings ConfusedConfusedConfused

but after seeing ccrink's note, i guess ill continue to stick with halos LMAOLMAOLMAO i have a buncha alarms at home but replaced the "main area" ones that are more prone. 2 were super easy to replace. 1 was in a super bad place where it was 15 ft up over the top step of the stairs on the 2nd floor... that was scary to replace
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Good deal, and good price - thumbs up and reps for the OP.

However...Smilie
I recently discovered that smoke detectors need to be replaced every ~8-10 years. We have a whopping 9 in our house.
While researching the best options for replacements I ultimately decided to try out the Halo smoke alarm with weather alerts. I've had one installed for about 3 weeks now and have been happy.
Seems to have all the smart features of the Nest with a few big advantages:
-Dual smoke sensors - AFAIK the only detector that offers both types in one package
-Works with existing detector wiring (if you have it) so it can be a 100% hard wired solution, unlike Nest's need to rely on their own wireless mesh network.
-10 year battery - uses a sealed rechargeable LiON battery versus the 6 AA's that Nest estimates will need replacement every 2 years
-Offers a model with an integrated weather radio to warn of dangerous weather events in your area.

The two big disadvantages are price ($99 for the base model, $130 for the model with weather alerts) and it's a brand new product with no track record.
I typically wait for new, cool things like this to be on at least version 2.0 before investing, but my detectors died at an inopportune time, so I'm having to decide sooner than I'd like.


Home Depot and Lowe's both sell the Halo's:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-S.../300388846

Install was a 10 minute job. Wiring harness is the same as the First Alert system I am replacing. The Halo app on iOS works great so far.

Hope someone else can benefit from the way too much time I've spent researching all this.
There are a couple of other smart smoke alarms due to hit the market within a year or so, so unless you are certain the Nest Protect is the alarm for you, you might want to waste half a day reading up on all this Big Grin
Nest says the battery should last 10 years as well. Also I read that I even though Halo can use existing wiring to interconnect with other non halos/non smart detectors, you will not be notified until the halo actually detects the smoke. I don't recall exactly but users were saying that depending on what device received the smoke detection first, you may not be alerted by the halo. Also, nest does state they use advanced technology to detect both types of smoke.

I have 10 detectors in the house..... Bummer.
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wonder if i should mix and match smoke/co2 detectors. just put in 3 halos. 3 nests should be ok right? all connected by smartthings http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smili...questioned.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smili...questioned.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smili...questioned.gif

but after seeing ccrink's note, i guess ill continue to stick with halos http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-LMAO.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-LMAO.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-LMAO.gif i have a buncha alarms at home but replaced the "main area" ones that are more prone. 2 were super easy to replace. 1 was in a super bad place where it was 15 ft up over the top step of the stairs on the 2nd floor... that was scary to replaceWe hav
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wonder if i should mix and match smoke/co2 detectors. just put in 3 halos. 3 nests should be ok right? all connected by smartthings http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smili...questioned.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smili...questioned.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smili...questioned.gif

but after seeing ccrink's note, i guess ill continue to stick with halos http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-LMAO.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-LMAO.gifhttp://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-LMAO.gif i have a buncha alarms at home but replaced the "main area" ones that are more prone. 2 were super easy to replace. 1 was in a super bad place where it was 15 ft up over the top step of the stairs on the 2nd floor... that was scary to replace
We have one alarm that literally needs a 2 story ladder to reach - must be some stupid code that mandates it be placed there - can't imagine the home builder was any happier wiring and placing it than I am changing the battery!
That one will definitely be replaced with a Halo - even if I only get 5 years out of the battery it'll be worth it.
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Nest says the battery should last 10 years as well. Also I read that I even though Halo can use existing wiring to interconnect with other non halos/non smart detectors, you will not be notified until the halo actually detects the smoke. I don't recall exactly but users were saying that depending on what device received the smoke detection first, you may not be alerted by the halo. Also, nest does state they use advanced technology to detect both types of smoke.

I have 10 detectors in the house..... Bummer.
Agree that mixing and matching a Halo system with hard wired, but non-Halo alarms may not work as well as having all of the same type (whether the $10 First Alert our builder installed, or something more capable.) But, if I do go all Halo, I much prefer having the hard wiring to rely on - baffling to me why Nest opted to not include the has-to-be-simple wiring option. If the $10 First Alert alarms can utilize the network, one has to imagine the Nest Protect can.

I do recall reading Nest saying that their batteries would last for 10 years, but I think this was on the Gen 1 detectors that came with a LiPo battery pack. The Gen 2's recommend lithium Energizer AA's - six of them - and estimate you'll get 2 years for the wired version of the alarms...I can't find the page where I saw this estimate at the moment, but Nest now advertises "multi year" battery life https://nest.com/support/article/...I-get-them rather than stating 10 years like Halo and some others do.
Again, Halo is a gen 1 product, so who knows how long the batteries will last in the real world...and I don't believe they're designed to be user-replaceable, so that could be a draw between the Nest and Halo...but since I need to buy now, Halo gets the edge for me.

The Nests are certainly better looking, and their night-light feature sounds a lot better. On the Halo it's pretty much a novelty only for non-alarm situations (lights can only be on a maximum of 30 min - don't believe Nest has this limitation.)

ETA: the Nest's hybrid smoke detector isn't the same as having two discrete detectors. It's probably better than having just the kind cheap detectors have, but Halo *should* get the edge for being able to detect all types of smoke. Realistically - nobody in my home smokes , uses candles, or even the fire place. I think we're quite unlikely to have a fire start inside the house. But while these alarms are expensive, I feel like a chump thinking about cheaping out on them when I'm more than willing to spend a bunch of money on crap I don't need that I find on SlickDeals LMAO
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A growing number of states are gradually moving to ban new smoke detector sales with removable batteries and some have laws mandating a 10-year built-in lifespan for smoke detectors after which they are programmed to stop functioning. (Existing units are unaffected.) This is why all existing stocks of detectors, including those with a 10-yr battery that do not have a built-in self-destruct function or still offer the option for a customer-serviceable battery are now starting to be flushed out of the marketplace.

About 10 states have passed laws to this effect and this has had a de facto effect of making it a national law affecting all 50 states as manufacturers clear out their remaining stock of battery-replaceable units and stop selling them in the USA. If you can't sell it in New York, for example, you can't really sell it anywhere in the country.

In New York, it will be a criminal offense for a manufacturer or dealer to sell any smoke detector with customer-removable batteries after April 1, 2019. General Business Law (Section 399-ccc) mandates all new or replacement smoke detectors in New York State must be powered by a 10-year sealed, non-removable battery or hardwired to the home. It will also be a crime to offer end-run ways to manage battery replacements for these units. All units sold after this date must be designed to be decommissioned and removed from service after 10 years. It is also a crime with substantial mandatory penalties to sell, trade, gift, or refurbish for sale a unit with a battery that cannot be guaranteed to last at least 10 years.

The reason for these laws are the large number of deaths and injuries attributable to consumers defeating detectors by removing the batteries or not replacing them on a timely basis. This guarantees that once a consumer hardwires the unit to a home's existing power or seeks to rely on a long life battery, that unit will be assured of functioning for a decade, after which it is designed to disable itself and use purposely undefeatable repeating alarms or voice announcements insisting that it replaced.
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Small update -- local store only has battery style in stock. But they're definitely priced at $241 in store.
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A growing number of states are gradually moving to ban new smoke detector sales with removable batteries and some have laws mandating a 10-year built-in lifespan for smoke detectors after which they are programmed to stop functioning. This is why all existing stocks of detectors, including those with a 10-yr battery that do not have a built-in self-destruct function or still offer the option for a customer-serviceable battery are now starting to be flushed out of the marketplace.

About 10 states have passed laws to this effect and this has had a de facto effect of making it a national law affecting all 50 states as manufacturers clear out their remaining stock of battery-replaceable units and stop selling them in the USA. If you can't sell it in New York, for example, you can't really sell it anywhere in the country.

In New York, it will be a criminal offense for a manufacturer or dealer to sell any smoke detector with customer-removable batteries after April 1, 2019. General Business Law (Section 399-ccc) mandates all new or replacement smoke detectors in New York State must be powered by a 10-year sealed, non-removable battery or hardwired to the home. It will also be a crime to offer end-run ways to manage battery replacements for these units. All units sold after this date must be designed to be decommissioned and removed from service after 10 years. It is also a crime with substantial mandatory penalties to sell, trade, gift, or refurbish for sale a unit with a battery that cannot be guaranteed to last at least 10 years.

The reason for these laws are the large number of deaths and injuries attributable to consumers defeating detectors by removing the batteries or not replacing them on a timely basis. This guarantees that once a consumer hardwires the unit to a home's existing power or seeks to rely on a long life battery, that unit will be assured of functioning for a decade, after which it is designed to disable itself and use purposely undefeatable repeating alarms or voice announcements insisting that it replaced.
I know the nests will not work without batteries and they become "useless" 10 years after manufacturing date. I think this should be 10 years after install date, but that's not how they have it setup.
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Agree that mixing and matching a Halo system with hard wired, but non-Halo alarms may not work as well as having all of the same type (whether the $10 First Alert our builder installed, or something more capable.) But, if I do go all Halo, I much prefer having the hard wiring to rely on - baffling to me why Nest opted to not include the has-to-be-simple wiring option. If the $10 First Alert alarms can utilize the network, one has to imagine the Nest Protect can.

I do recall reading Nest saying that their batteries would last for 10 years, but I think this was on the Gen 1 detectors that came with a LiPo battery pack. The Gen 2's recommend lithium Energizer AA's - six of them - and estimate you'll get 2 years for the wired version of the alarms...I can't find the page where I saw this estimate at the moment, but Nest now advertises "multi year" battery life https://nest.com/support/article/...I-get-them rather than stating 10 years like Halo and some others do.
Again, Halo is a gen 1 product, so who knows how long the batteries will last in the real world...and I don't believe they're designed to be user-replaceable, so that could be a draw between the Nest and Halo...but since I need to buy now, Halo gets the edge for me.

The Nests are certainly better looking, and their night-light feature sounds a lot better. On the Halo it's pretty much a novelty only for non-alarm situations (lights can only be on a maximum of 30 min - don't believe Nest has this limitation.)

ETA: the Nest's hybrid smoke detector isn't the same as having two discrete detectors. It's probably better than having just the kind cheap detectors have, but Halo *should* get the edge for being able to detect all types of smoke. Realistically - nobody in my home smokes , uses candles, or even the fire place. I think we're quite unlikely to have a fire start inside the house. But while these alarms are expensive, I feel like a chump thinking about cheaping out on them when I'm more than willing to spend a bunch of money on crap I don't need that I find on SlickDeals LMAO
Looks like nest batteries are not 10 years but are replaceable. I wouldn't buy battery ones for my house anyway unless I was adding another to a place where one wasn't. Nests detection does get extremely good reviews from testing, even better than ones that are not hybrid detection. I am sure both are good. My concern would be support on the Halos. So many new companies bring a product out and then fail to support it. Granted....That can happen with established companies as well. If you have a nest thermostat the protects also interact with it.
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Also I read that if you have a nest thermostat the nest detectors also acts as room sensors like ecobee standalone sensors
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Found them at my club for $181.71.
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Found them at my club for $181.71.
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