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Posted 07-17-2017 by ggoofer at 12:11 PM
Amazon has Synology 5-Bay DS1517+ NAS DiskStation ( DS1517+ (2GB)) for $599. Shipping is free. Thanks ggoofer

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Edited July 17, 2017 at 02:52 PM by mlacey3
Price $599 + tax. Free shipping with prime.
Previous lowest price $699
Model released April 2017
RAM user upgradeable to 16 GB
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For those of you contemplating on roll your own FreeNAS, read this first: https://forums.freenas.org/index....oobs.7775/

The link got redirected to the forum index page. Don't know how to fix that. Do a search on
"slideshow-explaining-vdev-zpool-zil-and-l2arc-for-noobs"

Don't start until at least you understand the relationship between zpool and vdev. Here is my experience. I got fed up with my WHS v1 2 years ago and wanted to upgrade. I wanted to go cheap and build a FreeNAS but I don't know Linux and was not comfortable putting all my data on a platform I am not familiar with. So, I bought a QNAP TS431. Without cracking open the manual, I managed to set up a 4-disk RAID5 array on the first try. The interface was a breeze to figure out and use.

After I had the QNAP running for a while, I decided to convert the WHS hardware into FreeNAS as a backup to my QNAP. The installation of FreeNAS was easy, configuration was not. Yes, there was a web UI and a configuration wizard, but the terminology was still all in Linux. Unless you are familiar with Linux and ZFS, it was hard making choices in the wizard. I had to restart from scratch many times because I made the wrong choices. Anyway, coming from non-Linux background, it was a steep learning curve for me. In the end, I thought I had it right, but I still got it wrong, according to the forum thread I posted above. Here are some of the things I learned about FreeNAS:

You should not use old/outdated hardware and FreeNAS runs better on Intel platform than AMD. All the experts on the forum espouse that you must use server class hardware with ECC RAM otherwise you are inviting data loss. If you loss data due to insufficient hardware and ask for help on the forum, they will point you to the recommended hardware section say: "You should have read this section first". For all those thinking about building a cheap FreeNAS, you are taking a huge risk, according to the forum gurus. Non-server class hardware will cause data loss. Not if, but when. (That is their sentiment, not mine. I run my FreeNAS on a G620.)
You need to have a total understanding of the ZFS topology before you start configuring your vdev. ZFS is not forgiving. It is designed for system admins who know what they are doing. So, it will let you do anything you want based on the assumption that you know what you are doing. It will not warn you of any potential mistake you are making. Once you make the mistake, you are stuck with it, unless you start all over again. The forum is full of posts from noobs asking how to expand their vdev. The answer is you can't. The experts will shake their heads and say your should have read all the must reads before you started.
ZFS is also not forgiving in that once the data pool is corrupt, there is no recovery. If you post request for help to recover your data on the forum, you will get no sympathy. The answer is you should have a backup. Just restore it. ZFS is all about data integrity and data integrity alone. Because there is nothing that can recover data from a stand-alone ZFS disk, You ABSOLUTELY need to backup your FreeNAS.
When you pay for pre-built NAS, you are not paying for the hardware. You are paying for the software. To this day, I still have not read any of the QNAP manual. I plugged it into an UPS and it recognized the UPS instantly. When I plugged my FreeNAS to the UPS, I had to Google how to configure it. When I plugged an external drive to QNAP, it instantly showed up on my Windows network as a shared folder. I still have not figured out how to get my FreeNAS to mount an external drive after plugging it in.

In the end I am happy with my setup. I am glad I bought the QNAP as my daily NAS. It is simple to manage and it just works! I am also happy to have the FreeNAS as the backup to my QNAP. It didn't cost me any money because I re-purposed the hardware. However, I cannot count the hours I spent configuring/ reconfiguring / reading / researching / etc. The $$$ figure of my time way exceeded the cost of QNAP.

Anyway, that was my experience. I want to share it with those contemplating on roll your own FreeNAS vs buying one. Depending your your level of Linux/ZFS expertise, YMMV.
Synology DS1517+ (2GB) 5 - bay NAS Disk Station (Diskless) $599 + Tax at Amazon

I have had this in my cart for a while. Today it dropped by $100. I am still on the fence between the 1517+ and the 1817+.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...X0DER&th=1

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Sigh... If only they would have upgraded the processor.
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Sigh... If only they would have upgraded the processor.
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Damn, if only they put the 1817+ on sale. I've got 8 drives in a 1511+ w/ expansion and I'd love to upgrade.
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Thanks, purchased 699.99 on May, will contact my credit for adjustment
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Synology DS1517+ (2GB) 5 - bay NAS Disk Station (Diskless) $599 + Tax at Amazon

I have had this in my cart for a while. Today it dropped by $100. I am still on the fence between the 1517+ and the 1817+.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...X0DER&th=1

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In the market for some NASes

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-D...rds=DS1817

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Sigh... If only they would have upgraded the processor.
Agreed, can't believe they're still using an Atom processor from 2013. Especially one that now requires a hard-soldered resistor to prevent it from ​bricking.

Good price, though. Surprised that it dropped this fast, this quickly.
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Agreed, can't believe they're still using an Atom processor from 2013. Especially one that now requires a hard-soldered resistor to prevent it from ​bricking.
Are they putting the resistor in themselves now? Or is it a mod owners have to do?
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Are they putting the resistor in themselves now? Or is it a mod owners have to do?
It seems like Synology is putting the resistor in: https://www.reddit.com/r/synology...ed_ds2415/

The x17 models came out after the news, so one would think all of the x17 models would have come preinstalled with that resistor.
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I'm waiting for 6 or 8 bay. 4gb+ ram and better cpu
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Almost positive that there has been a board level fix on all the x17 models (and all the recently manufactured x15s have the fix somewhere). There's always so much misinformation in these threads on SD because the users have no clue what they're talking about and just keep repeating the same thing they heard in a previous thread. Just research it yourself on r/Synology with people who have actually bought the products.

I just upgraded to the DS1817+ (from my DS1812+) when the previous NewEgg deal was up and I couldn't be happier ($790 with no tax and after cash back). The performance difference is night and day especially since I upgraded the RAM to 16GB. Now, all I have to do is add the M2 adapter and 2 SSDs...
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Wrong version
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$46 tax for me at Amazon. Tax free for $599 at B&H

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Wrong version
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One of the reviews says the 80mm fans are super loud and he replaced them, also found an XML file to modify to up the fan speed to keep everything cooler. Also talks about a 16GB sodimm ram upgrade that makes a big performance difference ($100ish)
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