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Recommend me a NAS

14,192 5,243 July 26, 2017 at 08:38 AM
I was holding off on buying/building a NAS until later this year when I get fiber internet, as I most likely will change cloud backup providers then too to one that supports a NAS. That said the recent Best Buy deal on drives has me rethinking. Saving $100 a drive * 4 drives makes a big price difference.

I pulled a bunch of ethernet in my house and have wired connections available everywhere. As a part of this I put a ½ height, ½ depth wall rack in. The thought at the time was to put a NAS inside the rack, and I still want to do this.

I have about 6TB now sitting on local drives now that are backed up to the cloud through backblaze. I am a Prosumer photographer and have a YouTube channel I am making content for on a weekly basis. I run a Plex server on this machine for serving content locally to 1 HDTV TV right now. In looking at consumer NAS boxes like Synology most tend to have lower end processors that can't handle 4k content. I am looking for a solution to do that for the future to grow into. I would like a device that allows JBOD so as I run out of space I can add larger disks. I would also like to have a layer of redundancy added in. I was thinking something probably 4 bay.

I do have an older computer motherboard, processor, and ram (No case) left over from a previous project. It's an old AMD A4 processor so just barely enough power to run Plex at 1080P. I have played with FreeNAS on this box a little and some old hard drives. From my understanding FreeNAS doesn't support JBOD. I want to say this motherboard has 6 SATA ports on the board, but I would have to double check. It's a larger motherboard so I would have to get a really small case for it (Or mount a shelf to put it on the wall. I assume this would use more power than a ready built box potentially and not have much overhead.

So with all that said, what NAS would you recommend? If you say build, what would you recommend for an energy efficient processor?

Edit: After getting some feedback I am looking at a QNAP TS-451+ 2gb and adding my own ram after the fact. Thoughts?

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I was holding off on buying/building a NAS until later this year when I get fiber internet, as I most likely will change cloud backup providers then too to one that supports a NAS. That said the recent Best Buy deal on drives has me rethinking. Saving $100 a drive * 4 drives makes a big price difference.

I pulled a bunch of ethernet in my house and have wired connections available everywhere. As a part of this I put a ½ height, ½ depth wall rack in. The thought at the time was to put a NAS inside the rack, and I still want to do this.

I have about 6TB now sitting on local drives now that are backed up to the cloud through backblaze. I am a Prosumer photographer and have a YouTube channel I am making content for on a weekly basis. I run a Plex server on this machine for serving content locally to 1 HDTV TV right now. In looking at consumer NAS boxes like Synology most tend to have lower end processors that can't handle 4k content. I am looking for a solution to do that for the future to grow into. I would like a device that allows JBOD so as I run out of space I can add larger disks. I would also like to have a layer of redundancy added in. I was thinking something probably 4 bay.
You want to run Plex on the NAS, or just use the NAS to store your Plex library? Running the media server on the NAS severely limits your choice, especially if you want 4k. At that point, you're looking into commercial-level, higher-end NASs (think $1000+, plus disks), and you're out of the SOHO-type boxes that most people use (think $200+, plus disks).

I would leave your NAS as what it's supposed to be - storage - and run the Plex server on a separate box.
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You want to run Plex on the NAS, or just use the NAS to store your Plex library? Running the media server on the NAS severely limits your choice, especially if you want 4k. At that point, you're looking into commercial-level, higher-end NASs (think $1000+, plus disks), and you're out of the SOHO-type boxes that most people use (think $200+, plus disks).

I would leave your NAS as what it's supposed to be - storage - and run the Plex server on a separate box.
I did originally want to run Plex on the NAS to allow me to shut of my main PC (Plex server now) and conserve energy. That said the more research I do the more it seems like that's not going to be the best play if I want a AIO device. So looking at leaving Plex server on my main PC and moving content to the NAS.
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I did originally want to run Plex on the NAS to allow me to shut of my main PC (Plex server now) and conserve energy. That said the more research I do the more it seems like that's not going to be the best play if I want a AIO device. So looking at leaving Plex server on my main PC and moving content to the NAS.
From a topology standpoint, I'd say you are better off with a NAS just for content storage and your pc for viewing/editing/etc...

A co-worker is running a Synology box to host his content storage. I'm not sure if it's from Synology or just running their OS.
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Or just get a nice router that has a usb port and supports DLNA.

External USB drives are cheap. My netgear NAS is overkill.
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From a topology standpoint, I'd say you are better off with a NAS just for content storage and your pc for viewing/editing/etc...

A co-worker is running a Synology box to host his content storage. I'm not sure if it's from Synology or just running their OS.
I didn't know the Synology software is available as a stand alone.

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Or just get a nice router that has a usb port and supports DLNA.

External USB drives are cheap. My netgear NAS is overkill.
That doesn't give redundancy nor is very expandable, and is far slower then a NAS. Not a good option for me.
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I didn't know the Synology software is available as a stand alone.



That doesn't give redundancy nor is very expandable, and is far slower then a NAS. Not a good option for me.
When my co-worker comes back from breakfast, I'll double check this.

Edit: Yes he is running their software.
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From a topology standpoint, I'd say you are better off with a NAS just for content storage and your pc for viewing/editing/etc...

A co-worker is running a Synology box to host his content storage. I'm not sure if it's from Synology or just running their OS.
I've got a Synology DS215 (or DS16) and it's dead easy to set up and use. Been great so far.

OP, if you want something ready right out of the box, I think it's Synology or QNAP; both make several different models, so just find the ones that have the number of bays and other feature you need (like rackmount). For pure storage, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.
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Find a Lenovo TS140 server and put NAS4FREE on it. It's BSD-based, and rock-solid.
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I've got a Synology DS215 (or DS16) and it's dead easy to set up and use. Been great so far.

OP, if you want something ready right out of the box, I think it's Synology or QNAP; both make several different models, so just find the ones that have the number of bays and other feature you need (like rackmount). For pure storage, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.
I was actually looking at one of the non rack mount ones. The rack mount ones tend to be a lot more expensive.

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Find a Lenovo TS140 server and put NAS4FREE on it. It's BSD-based, and rock-solid.
How many SATA Slots are in those? Really larger then I was looking for but looks like a decent price.
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Good follow up here. I've been thinking of a NAS also but not been keeping up with the tech for a while.
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I think I have my decision down to two different models, and I made a spreadsheet directly comparing them and color coded it.

QNAP TS-451+
Syncology DS416play

Green = Winner (Or better feature)
Yellow = Equal
Red = Loosing feature

http://i.imgur.com/wKbySQ0.png

What is everyone's opinion of these two? My initial target is 3x8TB Drives.
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I was actually looking at one of the non rack mount ones. The rack mount ones tend to be a lot more expensive.
Oh, you get a lot more choices then. With Synology, it seems to be about $100 / drive bay, give or take. QNAP I think tends to be a bit cheaper, but from what I've seen Synology wins out with the UX.
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I was actually looking at one of the non rack mount ones. The rack mount ones tend to be a lot more expensive.



How many SATA Slots are in those? Really larger then I was looking for but looks like a decent price.
I've got 4 WD Red 3TB drives in mine, plus an SSD for the operating system.
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you can also play around with your extra hardware laying around and run xpenology which is a bootloader for synology and you have your own custom nas with synology running on it. I don't know if it'll serve OPs purpose though.

I was also in the market for a cheap nas and my buddy has both a synology box and a xpenology box he built. he recommended xpenology instead of prebult synology. That's the route I intend to take once I gather all my hardware.
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