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SDG&E Customers get $10,000 off BMW i3 or Nissan Leaf

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Here is where I saw the original post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/personal...tomers/​

May be a good discussion post. Even thought about buying it and selling the car in a year for some good profit.

Example on a Leaf:
MSRP - $33800
5% Dealer Discount - $32,110
Incentives from Nissan (-$4k) = $28,110
SDG&E Discount (-$10k) = $19,110
State and Federal Tax Credit (-$10k) - $9,110 after rebate(s) factored in

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TrueCar lists the base model at 31.5k with an instant savings off MSRP of $6,216 leaving the total at 25,300 before incentives.
If that's correct, then with the discounts that OP listed (4k incentives, 10k SDG&E, 10K State and Fed Credit) would leave the total at 1,300 + tax and license. This is just the lowest end base model, but a brand new car for 1,300 seems kind of insane to me.


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OP, not sure about your business proposal. Electric cars' especially the Leafs' value drops like a stone. EEK!
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I think i3 with a range extender (if that is one of the models that is included) would be a deal for someone in the market, but even then, the BMW is vastly overpriced.
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OP, not sure about your business proposal. Electric cars' especially the Leafs' value drops like a stone. EEK!
I am not too familiar but if the car costs 10k or even less will it really be worth sub 20k in one year? Even if it was the case anything over 10k would be profit. Guess I'm used to my Subaru at 85% of the original value still 3 years later
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Year old leafs already sell for less than 10k.

The same program has been going in Colorado for 6 months. There still aren't any leafs on the road. The car sucks.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetai.../overview/

Year old car less than 10k and like 40% RV.
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Previous Leaf owner can vouch resale drops quick. Also new Leaf coming in Sept or at least revealed.
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I am not too familiar but if the car costs 10k or even less will it really be worth sub 20k in one year? Even if it was the case anything over 10k would be profit. Guess I'm used to my Subaru at 85% of the original value still 3 years later
Due to all the incentives the used market prices are extremely low. It is likely they will be insanely cheap after a year of driving. It doesn't help that the Bolt and Model 3 are hitting the market now either.
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If you can negotiate a good deal before the incentives then it is worth it. If you can't combine then it is a no go.

There is not much you can lose considering if they won't combine you just leave. I do admit is is a shitty car but if it is under $10K after all the incentives it might be worth while. Think of it as a throwaway car at that point. And 107 miles, really 80 usable miles, is not bad.

If someone plans to keep this car for a long time, they can make their money back by just driving this for years down the road.
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My neighbor has (2) Nissan Leafs. The 2013 model is worth $9,000 at this time retail. Ouch. He won't be able to trade it or sell for anything above $7,000.
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as soon as tesla 3 hit mass i should be able to get a Smart EV or Fiat 500e for $3k, perfect for my daily 20miles commute
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I saw this earlier today but the discount is only off MSRP. If you can find a dealer willing to offer more great! It isn't a bad price of you are in the market for one whatsoever but I was initially hoping it would be $10k off whatever the dealer would sell it to you for and that doesn't seem to be the case.

Ya, they even say this in the Reddit post. So while you can usually get a $6k discount or so ona Leaf without trying hard this would just add an additional $4k. You wouldn't get the $16k most people would hope to get!
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Hybrids and electric cars are a gimmick to generate sales since they hadn't come out with anything exciting in years. You will never see a ROI over a gas vehicle. They have a huge negative environmental impact, not to mention using up valuable limited resources that will run out long before we need to stop using them. The mines are very dangerous and typically exploit young and the very poor.
Lot of fiction in this post. I bought a demo BMW i3 in 2015 for $20k after tax credits, I've saved almost $4000 in gas over the car I replaced while having no oil changes/maint. I have a model 3 on order and when my kids turn 16 they'll be driving used leafs or maybe my i3.

Would love to see a source on the supposed dangerous lithium mines. . .
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Hybrids and electric cars are a gimmick to generate sales since they hadn't come out with anything exciting in years. You will never see a ROI over a gas vehicle. They have a huge negative environmental impact, not to mention using up valuable limited resources that will run out long before we need to stop using them. The mines are very dangerous and typically exploit young and the very poor.
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Lot of fiction in this post. I bought a demo BMW i3 in 2015 for $20k after tax credits, I've saved almost $4000 in gas over the car I replaced while having no oil changes/maint. I have a model 3 on order and when my kids turn 16 they'll be driving used leafs or maybe my i3.

Would love to see a source on the supposed dangerous lithium mines. . .
Not sure on some of it but hybrid cars are a pretty poor idea at the moment. They do not have this all positive environmental impact. They do use a lot of minerals that are mined heavily, which destroy the environment. Lithium, cadmium and other electric battery mineral mining has a pretty big detrimental impact. That said, electric cars definitely have potential but they need some things...

-More infrastructure (more charging stations)
-longer range for an affordable price
-Less lame looking style (besides Tesla....maybe)
-reliability issues

Honestly if you want a car to be good to the environment, have a good resale and be a good daily driver for whatever your needs, get a civic, corolla, etc. Much further range, reliable and hold their value well. Also they can go more than 100 miles and don't need 4-8 hours to recharge.

My 2 cents on this whole debate. Electric cars get conflated with being this excellent thing to save the environment and it is very misleading.
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as soon as tesla 3 hit mass i should be able to get a Smart EV or Fiat 500e for $3k, perfect for my daily 20miles commute
Fiat 500e are down to $6.5k now . I would get 1 but my commute is 45 miles OW

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