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Western Digital RE WD4000FDYZ 4TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal (Manufacturer Refurbished) - $83 + FS Newegg via eBay

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Western Digital RE WD4000FDYZ 4TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal (Manufacturer Refurbished) - $83 + FS Newegg via eBay

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Good price, but the reviews [newegg.com] are horrible.
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I cannot think of any smart use for a "refurbished" copy of the highest-failure rate component of the entire system. For openers, what could "refurbished" even mean for a hard drive other than "used, but still working?"

Yeah, I know. You bought one six years ago and its been running 24/7 ever since with no problems and on weekends it volunteers at the homeless shelter. Good for you.

But if you value data and manage it competently, there is simply no process you could manage where it wouldn't be foolish to rely on one of these, unless it's to use four of them to keep a box an inch off the floor.
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how this compared with 3TB HGST hard drive for $42? I do not think it is a deal.
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Likely server pulls as all of these "refurb" HDs are. Might be OK in general, but this seems like a worse deal than the recent 3TB for half this price. Now if there is an eBay coupon to stack on top, maybe it would be more interesting. But as it stands, this deal looks pretty mediocre.
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how this compared with 3TB HGST hard drive for $42? I do not think it is a deal.
Link?

edit: n/m I see it but its expired
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I cannot think of any smart use for a "refurbished" copy of the highest-failure rate component of the entire system. For openers, what could "refurbished" even mean for a hard drive other than "used, but still working?"

Yeah, I know. You bought one six years ago and its been running 24/7 ever since with no problems and on weekends it volunteers at the homeless shelter. Good for you.

But if you value data and manage it competently, there is simply no process you could manage where it wouldn't be foolish to rely on one of these, unless it's to use four of them to keep a box an inch off the floor.
Agreed. Every 'refurbished' hard drive I have seen on NewEgg has bad reviews.

Unless they are new open returns (not likely) there is no reason to buy this. They are going to be worn out server pulls.
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Agreed. Every 'refurbished' hard drive I have seen on NewEgg has bad reviews.

Unless they are new open returns (not likely) there is no reason to buy this. They are going to be worn out server pulls.
It's incredible to see how many people avoid things like this for no reason other than a few bad reviews. There are something like maybe 10 bad reviews for this on Newegg. The issue on Newegg and other sites is that someone is always more likely to post a review/comment if they had a negative experience and less likely to waste the time if they had no issues. These refurbished enterprise drives are bought in large quantities, Newegg sells on eBay as well and it shows the count, some of these refurbished enterprise drives have over 2,000 sold.
So 10 bad reviews out of 2,000 purchases impacts your decision?
Absolute idiocy.

And also lets talk about the "why buy these when you can buy a new consumer-grade hdd for a little bit more?" Maybe because these enterprise drives are built to last for 2 million hours and many of these come with only around 20,000 hours on them. That's why...my god...
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It's incredible to see how many people avoid things like this for no reason other than a few bad reviews. There are something like maybe 10 bad reviews for this on Newegg. The issue on Newegg and other sites is that someone is always more likely to post a review/comment if they had a negative experience and less likely to waste the time if they had no issues. These refurbished enterprise drives are bought in large quantities, Newegg sells on eBay as well and it shows the count, some of these refurbished enterprise drives have over 2,000 sold.
So 10 bad reviews out of 2,000 purchases impacts your decision?
Absolute idiocy.

And also lets talk about the "why buy these when you can buy a new consumer-grade hdd for a little bit more?" Maybe because these enterprise drives are built to last for 2 million hours and many of these come with only around 20,000 hours on them. That's why...my god...
Even in a server environment, enterprise drives statistically do not last longer than consumer drives. Looks like someone bought the marketing hype.

Would you buy a 5 year old car with a rebuilt engine for 30% off the price of a new car?

If these are so reliable, have you ever stopped to think about why the enterprise users don't buy them back after they are "refurbished?"
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It's incredible to see how many people avoid things like this for no reason other than a few bad reviews.
It's incredible to see how many people are prepared to throw their money at things other people are telling them are bad.

There are some areas in life where it doesn't pay to go the cheap route, and hard drives is one of those. The only exception is that you intend to use these as temp drives or part of a highly redundant array.
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Even in a server environment, enterprise drives statistically do not last longer than consumer drives. Looks like someone bought the marketing hype.

Would you buy a 5 year old car with a rebuilt engine for 30% off the price of a new car?

If these are so reliable, have you ever stopped to think about why the enterprise users don't buy them back after they are "refurbished?"
Based on the hours on these drives, they run them for roughly 2 years, which is most likely their upgrade/refresh cycle.
"Why don't they buy them back?"
You clearly don't understand how enterprises work 😂
The term refurbished on these is kind of misused anyway, many of these likely had no issues. I bought a "refurbished" tablet that was just a customer return that had was found to have no issues by the manufacturer, customer stated defect was "tablet too slow". They obviously lied to return the item, so the manufacturer labelled it as "refurbished" because they most likely cleaned it up or something (idk how they justify labels but it's beside the point).

You have no clue.
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It's incredible to see how many people are prepared to throw their money at things other people are telling them are bad.

There are some areas in life where it doesn't pay to go the cheap route, and hard drives is one of those. The only exception is that you intend to use these as temp drives or part of a highly redundant array.
I don't see 10 negative reviews out of thousands of drives purchased as an indication of anything.
1) many negative reviews are written by absolute idiots, just check some Amazon reviews.
2) the small amount of negative reviews and lack of positive is common with bulk listings like this, mass server pulls/refresh. Most of the eBay purchasers of this drive bought more than 2, high quantities, likely small business etc. Buyers like that are less likely to leave reviews and buyers in general are less likely to leave reviews/feedback unless they have an issue.

It's pretty damn simple, think for yourself. After all if you have an issue is it that difficult to return?
I imagine most of the people with issues could've prevented the headache by running tests and checking drive health.
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It's incredible to see how many people avoid things like this for no reason other than a few bad reviews. There are something like maybe 10 bad reviews for this on Newegg. The issue on Newegg and other sites is that someone is always more likely to post a review/comment if they had a negative experience and less likely to waste the time if they had no issues. These refurbished enterprise drives are bought in large quantities, Newegg sells on eBay as well and it shows the count, some of these refurbished enterprise drives have over 2,000 sold.
So 10 bad reviews out of 2,000 purchases impacts your decision?
Absolute idiocy.

And also lets talk about the "why buy these when you can buy a new consumer-grade hdd for a little bit more?" Maybe because these enterprise drives are built to last for 2 million hours and many of these come with only around 20,000 hours on them. That's why...my god...
I bought one, likely from a similar batch, from microcenter for a few bucks more than this...particulary for the enterprise grade and similar reasoning. It showed 27 power cycles. Also, these are manufacturer refurbushed which is better than most of these hdd postings I see on slickdeals. I think this is a pretty good deal.

edit: 27 running hrs, not power cycles. the WD utility will show you the details. also prob have at least the mfr remaining warranty on these- not sure- but that would also be better than most the refurb drive which have a 30 day warranty.
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I bought one, likely from a similar batch, from microcenter for a few bucks more than this...particulary for the enterprise grade and similar reasoning. It showed 27 power cycles.
Well it could have been running for 2 years in a data center on a server that was rebooted once/month. Proves nothing.
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