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Fakespot.com Reliability for Amazon products

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If you guys depend on Fakespot to purchase a product or not, it is not reliable.

Amazon is a multi billion dollar company with unlimited resources, they sure can get an IT team to filter and delete all the fake reviews if they want but obviously, most reviews on their website is legit now as of 2017 (mostly purged last year 2016).

Fakespot is just some blog trying to get affiliate ad money with a poor rating system

For example

http://fakespot.com/product/pante...-pack-of-2

Patene Pro-V is rated as D for fake reviews and deception. Do you think P&G would bother with fake reviews?

Same with this Gillette Razor
http://fakespot.com/product/gille...ors-blades

Rated D for deception and fake reviews.

Amazon's own product: http://fakespot.com/product/all-n...dia-player

Rated C, barely passing with some deceptions. Do you think Amazon would write fake reviews for their own product?

Same with Amazon Fire Tablet:
http://fakespot.com/product/all-n...ial-offers

Graded C with fake reviews

Finally, lets look at a reputable company with average review:
Herbal Essence Shampoo:
http://fakespot.com/product/herba...3-38-fl-oz

Graded F, even though it barely gets 2.6 Star/5. Would this company really write fake reviews and rate themselves so poorly?
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Note taken. Thank you for your efforts and time.
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It's just an algorithm that scans a few reviews for keywords a snow phrases. It's just another tool. I only pay attention if it's an unknown product with a score of F.
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It's just an algorithm that scans a few reviews for keywords a snow phrases. It's just another tool. I only pay attention if it's an unknown product with a score of F.
Yup. Take the rating with a grain of salt. Only time I really bother is if it's a Chinese dime-a-dozen product where it's impossible for me to know the actual quality of the item. They're famous for shill reviewing.
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A small Trivia question:
Who owns Amazon Digital Services LLC?
I'll tell you a bit to why i ask.
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just ran about 10 ipad cases on amazon through fakespot. some had 6000 reviews, some had 100

they ALL had a D or F ... the one with 6000 reviews had the F .. the one with 100 reviews had a D ..

take that info for what you will. according to fakespot all ipad cases on amazon are crap , especially the one with over 6000 reviews
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I hear what the original poster is saying. However, It is important to remember that many of these products (the shampoo, the kindle, the razor) might have component parts or packaging that is made by a company that wants to increase its production. Or, the entire product might be made by a company who then acts as the supplier for Pantene or Gillette. So while it might be hard to believe that those huge companies would hire people to write a fake reviews for their products, perhaps it is easier to understand if you think of it from the supplier's perspective.

Also, we must remember that each of these big companies hires individuals or companies who advertise their products. So if, for example, there is a company who advertises for 6 of the accounts for a big name company (like one of their razors, 2 shampoos, 1 kind of diaper, etc) then that advertising company will be EXTREMELY motivated to sell products. These are HUGE advertising accounts and there are millions, if not billions, of dollars involved. And amazon is the largest online marketplace. So if you were an advertiser, would you spend money on making a TV commercial (which nowadays most people don't watch anyway) or would you hire a team who writes top quality fake reviews?
In essence, I'm not so sure that we can rely on the fact that huge companies wouldn't have hundreds or thousands of fake reviews for their products. The company execs themselves might have no idea that its even happening!
This is just my opinion, my two cents!
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Sorry! You're wrong! Fakespot is reliable and every purchase I make on amazon is made only after checking Fakespot.
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Sorry! You're wrong! Fakespot is reliable and every purchase I make on amazon is made only after checking Fakespot.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I have proof that Fakespot is unreliable. http://a.co/iFzdjub That is a link to 9000 mAh 18650 batteries. We currently do not have the tech to make 9000 mAh 18650 sized lithium ion cells yet they get an A rating on fakespot. If you trust them so much, you can buy 6 9000 mAh 18650 cells for only $10, the deal of the century.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I have proof that Fakespot is unreliable. http://a.co/iFzdjub That is a link to 9000 mAh 18650 batteries. We currently do not have the tech to make 9000 mAh 18650 sized lithium ion cells yet they get an A rating on fakespot. If you trust them so much, you can buy 6 9000 mAh 18650 cells for only $10, the deal of the century.
The Fakespot rating is usually quite accurate. For the product you mention, a huge percentage of the reviews for the actual product rate it 1 star. The Fakespot rating is verifying that, yes, those 1 star ratings are accurate! Maybe you should take some time to reconsider what Fakespot actually aims to do.

Also, informed buyers also run their products through reviewmeta.com [reviewmeta.com], a similar site, as well as studying the given components that make up these sites' scores carefully. (And by informed buyers, I mean any person who bothers to use services like these)

Most importantly of all: If you're a butt-hurt person who can believes your score on these sites is inaccurate, it is more than worth your while to look through the factors that went into these scores, and then look at the reviews to determine if these factors are legitimate. You are very likely to find that--whether or not you asked for them--some of the reviews are by people who have a poor review history, or use common wording, or any of a dozen other factors these algorithms look at.

The owners of these companies take the integrity of their data very seriously (it's how they make money), and are VERY interested in any discrepancies in their algorithms, as they want to provide the best possible products (again, to increase the money they make.) If you contact them with legtimate examples--that is, with properly presented data you have analyzed yourself which contradicts their findings--their engineers will be extremely happy to learn from those insights and fix your ill-found negative rating.

The fact that you came to a random forum to simply complain, rather than contacting the company, implies that you may not be willing to go through this effort (perhaps because it's not affecting your bottom line, or because you weren't aware this was an option.) If the latter, I've given you the golden ticket! They will respond, given data. If you're losing a measurable amount of money, and can't do the math for yourself, cheaply hire a freshman math major from your local college to help you out (it won't take much...they're all pretty broke!)

Anyway, complaining on a forum doesn't do much, but if you--or any others who read this--have gained insight from this, then perhaps this was a perfect move! The bottom line is if you feel cheated, (and don't want to spend hours making detailed evidence), hire a local math- or computer science- or statistics- major student. They can help you out. (For under $20/hour, most likely. It won't take them many hours at all to shoot back results--whether they be the numbers to send to Fakespot/Reviewmeta, or the fact that you've been correctly categorized.

(If you're losing money and need to find a worthy student contractor: Simply post a few fliers in the Mathematics or Computer Science or Business (for statistics) building of your nearest university, briefly explaining your cause, say that you want to pay them for their work, and leave an email address and phone number. You will get calls. Students are students.)
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Fakespot gave this router A rating yet it is the worst router I (and many others) have ever had

https://www.fakespot.com/product/...nued-model

Take a look at the Q&A + top reviews to have a good laugh

The company even threaten to sue reviewers for leaving negative feedbacks
https://arstechnica.com/tech-poli...er-review/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/c...r_posting/
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I was curious about Fakespot because of some of the comments in a deal. People say Fakespot gave this item a F or D, so we should avoid it. I decide to investigate Fakespot and am skeptical about Fakespot.

According to this CNET article, https://www.cnet.com/how-to/spot-...-fakespot/, it uses the example of reviews of Status Audio CB-1. Here is the pertinent section from the article:

"The Status Audio CB-1 ($63 at Amazon.com) headphones shown throughout this story are a perfect example. They have a 4.7-star average rating from over 400 Amazon customers, suggesting an exceptional product. According to both Fakespot and ReviewMeta, however, you need to eliminate at least half those reviews from the equation, because they're questionable in some way.

Does that mean the company has engaged in shady review practices? Or that the headphones aren't quite as exceptional as the reviews suggest? It's tough to say, but ReviewMeta's adjusted score tells a better story: The 207 "good" reviews average out to 4.4 stars, so you can rest assured the headphones are probably above average. (CNET's review concurs.)"

This would give the item a Fakespot grade of D or F since the article states that half the reviews should be eliminated based on Fakespot and ReviewMeta analysis. That would leave it around 200 "good" review (207 is stated in the CNET article).

According to the article and Fakespot review count, there was 409 reviews on October 4, 2017. There are currently 650 reviews today. If you do a Fakespot analysis on the product today, Fakespot gives the item an A grade meaning that 90-100% reliable reviews. That would mean at least 585 reviews are reliable (90% of 650). How can this item go from a D or F grade to a A grade? If there was only around 200 "good" reviews in October 2017, that would mean it needed to have 385 "good" reviews between October 2017 and today. That can't be since there was only 241 NEW reviews from October 2017 to today. We are still short 144 "good" review if you assume all the new reviews added since Octoberf 2017 were good.

The math just doesn't add up.


Based on this, I wouldn't place too much reliance on Fakespot. Fakespot is Fake.
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The Fakespot rating is usually quite accurate. For the product you mention, a huge percentage of the reviews for the actual product rate it 1 star. The Fakespot rating is verifying that, yes, those 1 star ratings are accurate! Maybe you should take some time to reconsider what Fakespot actually aims to do.

Also, informed buyers also run their products through reviewmeta.com [reviewmeta.com], a similar site, as well as studying the given components that make up these sites' scores carefully. (And by informed buyers, I mean any person who bothers to use services like these)

Most importantly of all: If you're a butt-hurt person who can believes your score on these sites is inaccurate, it is more than worth your while to look through the factors that went into these scores, and then look at the reviews to determine if these factors are legitimate. You are very likely to find that--whether or not you asked for them--some of the reviews are by people who have a poor review history, or use common wording, or any of a dozen other factors these algorithms look at.

The owners of these companies take the integrity of their data very seriously (it's how they make money), and are VERY interested in any discrepancies in their algorithms, as they want to provide the best possible products (again, to increase the money they make.) If you contact them with legtimate examples--that is, with properly presented data you have analyzed yourself which contradicts their findings--their engineers will be extremely happy to learn from those insights and fix your ill-found negative rating.

The fact that you came to a random forum to simply complain, rather than contacting the company, implies that you may not be willing to go through this effort (perhaps because it's not affecting your bottom line, or because you weren't aware this was an option.) If the latter, I've given you the golden ticket! They will respond, given data. If you're losing a measurable amount of money, and can't do the math for yourself, cheaply hire a freshman math major from your local college to help you out (it won't take much...they're all pretty broke!)

Anyway, complaining on a forum doesn't do much, but if you--or any others who read this--have gained insight from this, then perhaps this was a perfect move! The bottom line is if you feel cheated, (and don't want to spend hours making detailed evidence), hire a local math- or computer science- or statistics- major student. They can help you out. (For under $20/hour, most likely. It won't take them many hours at all to shoot back results--whether they be the numbers to send to Fakespot/Reviewmeta, or the fact that you've been correctly categorized.

(If you're losing money and need to find a worthy student contractor: Simply post a few fliers in the Mathematics or Computer Science or Business (for statistics) building of your nearest university, briefly explaining your cause, say that you want to pay them for their work, and leave an email address and phone number. You will get calls. Students are students.)
I'm sorry you posted that wall of text but there is no way I'll waste time going through it all. Please read the dates of the posts, anyone with a brain will know that ratings can change tremendously within a few months. At the time of posting, they gave it an A+ rating. You say to contact the company but this is were I stopped reading as it is 100% obvious that you don't know what you are crying about. I wrote a simple fact that they gave a product that is sold widely with claims of specs that simply do not exist.
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I was wondering about the accuracy of Fakespot and I stumbled upon this forum. I'm an avid reader and I like to find new authors. After reading some really poorly-written books that had 95% 5-star reviews, all the 5-star reviews were oddly similar. I learned that many new authors BUY 5-star reviews and Fakespot is helpful in alerting me to this. It might be a good idea to look at what Fakespot has to say and then decide for yourself if you want to chance it.
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Fakespot is not accurate and they're in it for the money. I prefer transparency like Reviewmeta, although in general I distrust both sites like I do most reviews. But if I were to pick one it would be Reviewmeta because it tells me the positive and the negative.
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