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Winegard HD8200U Platinum Outdoor TV Antenna $122.32 Amazon (Prime / FS Non-prime) +Tax

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I have been tracking HDTV Antenna's for a while, and today I decided to pull the trigger on the Winegard HD8200U Platinum Series Long Range Outdoor TV Antenna.

This one is rated 65+ Mile (basically fringe area), but I'm about aiming for 50 miles range. I also read in the review that it is really really large, but I'm okay with that as long as it pulls the signal I want.

Digital
4K Ultra-HD Ready (This is just marketing gimmick, if it can get HDTV, it can get 4K)
ATSC 3.0 Ready
Low-VHF
High-VHF
UHF

Price is $122.32 (+ Tax), but has free Prime (or Just free shipping w/out Prime)
It says save another $5.28 if you choose Free no rush shipping, basically below $120.

I just checked camelcamelcamel, and it's just about at the lowest price.

I am picking this up, so I can pick up the local HD Fox station, getting ready for
the 2018 X-Files season!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DFS4BI/

I considered the Amazon Basics Amplified Indoor/Outdoor TV Antenna and the ClearStream 4V, before deciding to get Winegard, which I had on my list for quite a long time.

I would be interested some feedback if you have the HD8200U installed and you're about 50 miles (or farther) from the TV Transmitters on what you think of this Antenna.

Penguina

PS Solid Signal also has this on sale for $129.99. I don't know if they charge tax,
but it is also a solid choice if Amazon runs out.

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=HD8200U
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Fox is my OTA nemesis too. - hi vhf signal. I'm in NWFL
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I have 2 of these antennas be very careful they have bent 2 antenna masts they are also very directional so you may be able to get your fox station on it but not the stations 10 degrees off. Assembly can be pretty difficult on this antenna to make sure you don't short the aluminum wires when you run them into to the combiner box where the uhf and vhf go to. If you get bad reception thats probably where your problem is. My stations are about 62 miles from my house so you might get better results. If you have any questions I'll try to answer them good luck.
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Fox is my OTA nemesis too. - hi vhf signal. I'm in NWFL
I am in Gulf Breeze ,what antenna did you get ?
Do you now get Fox ?
Heard to point at NW 190
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I am in Gulf Breeze ,what antenna did you get ?
Do you now get Fox ?
Heard to point at NW 190
Small world, Navarre here. I do get fox but it isn't consistent. ABC, NBC, CBS are crystal clear. I'm pointing towards mobile (289 degrees) as 190 would put me in the Gulf. The degrees are based off of North as 0. Put your zip and address into this and it will tell you. I'm sure yours will be the same as mine since we are 5-10 miles apart http://www.tvfool.com/

I am experimenting with a powered splitter soon and if that doesn't improve my situation, a Channel master medium gain pre amplifier or a high gain.

I started with a Clearstream 4 antenna that was a Black Friday SD. That was good but no fox. Then a Channel Master CM-4228HD Which was exactly the same results.

I'm currently using the $35 "150 mile" antenna from Amazon. It DOES get fox. It has a motorized rotor to turn it which is good for adjustments but the wind also moves it around sometimes. I also need a spotter standing at the antenna to tell me or FaceTime with me while I use the remote in the house to adjust the antenna left/right. Overall, it's a very good and cheap antenna.

Im sending the signal into the house to a OTA TiVo Roamio dvr.
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I am experimenting with a powered splitter soon and if that doesn't improve my situation, a Channel master medium gain pre amplifier or a high gain.

I started with a Clearstream 4 antenna that was a Black Friday SD. That was good but no fox. Then a Channel Master CM-4228HD Which was exactly the same results.

I'm currently using the $35 "150 mile" antenna from Amazon. It DOES get fox. It has a motorized rotor to turn it which is good for adjustments but the wind also moves it around sometimes. I also need a spotter standing at the antenna to tell me or FaceTime with me while I use the remote in the house to adjust the antenna left/right. Overall, it's a very good and cheap antenna.

Im sending the signal into the house to a OTA TiVo Roamio dvr.
Which "$35 "150 mile" antenna from Amazon" are you using for fox?
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Which "$35 "150 mile" antenna from Amazon" are you using for fox?
ViewTV Outdoor Amplified Antenna - 150 Miles Range - 360° Rotation - Wireless Remote https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017JEF...Vzb1YDZH9G

It seems extremely cheap but somehow it DOES actually work. I own it.
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ViewTV Outdoor Amplified Antenna - 150 Miles Range - 360° Rotation - Wireless Remote https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017JEF...Vzb1YDZH9G

It seems extremely cheap but somehow it DOES actually work. I own it.
That does look like an attempt of a "Yagi-Uda" antenna with reflector and directors. Antenna design is a bit of black art and sometimes situational, I guess. What is a unconventional design that may not work for some may work perfectly for others, when the signals / terrain bounces just right, so I am glad to know it works for you.

I don't know which will work, but I will first try to stick one that tries to fit with known antenna theory, electromagnet propagation and constructive wave interference for signal amplification.

Thank you for your response.
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That does look like an attempt of a "Yagi-Uda" antenna with reflector and directors. Antenna design is a bit of black art and sometimes situational, I guess. What is a unconventional design that may not work for some may work perfectly for others, when the signals / terrain bounces just right, so I am glad to know it works for you.

I don't know which will work, but I will first try to stick one that tries to fit with known antenna theory, electromagnet propagation and constructive wave interference for signal amplification.

Thank you for your response.
You sound like you know A LOT more about antennas than I do! I have just been experimenting and this one ($35) has had the best results of the 3 I've tried.

I looked at the Wineguard after you posted it to see if I wanted to try it out. It seems like it will be way too big for my HOA. I did find this pretty good write-up on it though https://mattgadient.com/2011/06/0...nd-review/
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You sound like you know A LOT more about antennas than I do! I have just been experimenting and this one ($35) has had the best results of the 3 I've tried.

I looked at the Wineguard after you posted it to see if I wanted to try it out. It seems like it will be way too big for my HOA. I did find this pretty good write-up on it though https://mattgadient.com/2011/06/0...nd-review/
If you look at the this URL,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yag...da_antenna

You can see how the Yagi antenna works, especially the animated GIF past the middle of the page on how the Yagi antenna provides a "clean amplified signal".

My plan is to put the antenna in the attic, mount on a wooden block, pointed to the TV Transmitter -- if the signal attenuation of the signal is acceptable through the rafters and shingles. No amount of HOA Rules will let them look inside your attic.

If the signal attenuation proves unacceptable, I will think about other options, such as onto the auger pole that was previously used with my DISH 500 Antenna.

Antenna arrives on Tuesday, so I'll try to do an update after that to report. All I want to do is pull in the flagship Fox station in NY City and watch X-Files in 2018.

According to the WIKI, that station's antenna height is at 1250 feet -- and I just did a quick search, and it seems the GPS says TV transmitter is on top of the Empire State Building. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNYW

All this brings back some memories, I'll tell you -- Before 9/11, I had an apartment which had regular rabbit ears TV Antenna, and I was receiving TV signals (not great, but acceptable signals) good enough to watch regular TV. When the terrorists hit both of the World Trade Center buildings, all the New York Area TV antennas came down, too. I was at work that day, and saw what happened on TV live on 9/11 after the first plane hit. After the second plane struck, around 11-12PM, everyone at work was sent home. However, there was absolutely NO OTA TV signals. I was in the process of moving about 1 month from that day, so it was no point trying to subscribe to cable, and all my news came over the Radio & (Dial-up) Internet. It was interesting times.

Of course, there was a lot of scrambling by the TV stations to setup temporary antennas in NJ and other places, and now, it seems they have found a good spot for broadcasting antenna.
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I bought this 3 years ago for $129. Works great. I added the signal booster. Pretty solid signal. Mines about at the height of the house on a telephone pole, plan to add extension about 10ft to it. Good product. Nice $5 no rush saving as well.
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I've got a CM3671, and it picks up a bunch of channels. Old school design. It's mounted on a back gable, 2ns story, just peaking out over the roof.
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I bought this 3 years ago for $129. Works great. I added the signal booster. Pretty solid signal. Mines about at the height of the house on a telephone pole, plan to add extension about 10ft to it. Good product. Nice $5 no rush saving as well.

Which signal booster amplifier did you get?
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Which signal booster amplifier did you get?
LNA-200. About 80ft from antenna to splitter in the house. Figured it couldn't hurt. I'm still missing a few channels and have 2 that have weak signal, but the other 30 or so work perfect. May get those by raising the antenna as I mentioned.

https://www.amazon.com/Winegard-L...MX8J7ZWBBJ
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My plan is to put the antenna in the attic, mount on a wooden block, pointed to the TV Transmitter -- if the signal attenuation of the signal is acceptable through the rafters and shingles. No amount of HOA Rules will let them look inside your attic.
I did exactly this when I moved into my house 17 years ago. I live around 50 miles from Chicago, and bought a 60-mile range antenna (IIRC). It has worked very well over the years.

Just be careful that the dimensions of your attic work for this. Those antenna elements can spread out pretty wide. In my case, I have a slanted roof line, but it is tall enough that I was able to get the elements between the diagonal struts.
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