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This isn't a bad entry level 12" ported sub for the price. You can't go by watts. Every driver has a different Ts paremeter, so you can throw watts out the door.
You can go by volume and if the sub is properly ported or sealed. A larger, properly ported 12" box will output more bass than a smaller box with similar specs. And a sealed box even less. Sealed boxes require more amplification than ported to reach similar sound pressure levels (SPL). Another item to look for is weight. A quality, large box will have a thick front wall, as well as thick bracing. 1" is usually the norm for a well built front wall.
Cheaper 12" drivers will have smaller magnets, and usually thinner cabinet walls and a lighter overall cabinet weight compared to better built units. Smaller magnets mean more efficient drivers, thus a smaller amp to reach higher SPL. But with that, you also sacrifice total output efficiency before audible distortion kicks in (usually 10% on a sub).

I have both extremes in two rooms in our house. One is a SVS PB12 Plus/2 that is the size of a dog house, with dual 12" drivers and weighs around 150#, with a 900 watt amp. The other is an 8" Monoprice Premium sub with 4 satellites and a center. The SVS will rattle the dishes out of the cabinets, and when it goes below 20Hz, you don't hear the bass. You feel it. Sort of like when a passing train shakes the earth. It's a neat effect, but there's just not a lot of material below 20Hz. The 8" Monoprice, if placed properly, will fill a good sized room with bass. It's more than enough to make the wife complain. It's enough to where I haven't had the need to upgrade it to a budget 12" sub (Klipsch, BIC, Polk, etc...).

If you want a sub for music, you'll want a sealed sub, or a smaller high end sub such as an HSU. Kick drum bass hits around 50-65Hz IIRC. Unless you are into pipe organs, there's no need for a $1500 sub 20Hz monster. Subs that dig down to 28Hz at -5dB are fine for music, and even ones rated to 35Hz. Also remember, a subwoofer frequency response that goes down to 25Hz is rated at a -3dB to -5dB loss. That's quite a bit of loss, as ever 3dB halves the output. That 25Hz is probably more like 35Hz before it takes a dip in measured output at 1 meter/1 watt testing.
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Need some feedback on this one... only 250 continuous, but found one review and it was positive... out for 2 months. Like the 8tr warranty. I was going to wait till Black Friday to grab the best I could find. Room is about 20x30 it's going in. Is there a model I should wait for a price drop on or jump in this? Thanks!!
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How does this compares to the monoprice 12 sub?
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does anyone know how this compares to a Klipsch SW-112?
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For those of you who know subs, I'm building a Klipsch RP series HT. I want a killer sub... for about $1k or less. Would you do the SVS PB2000 or HSU VTF-15H MK2? Do those ever go on sale? Thanks!!!
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How does this compares to the monoprice 12 sub?
it is better, this is probably best sub you can get at this price point. I have one and I love it.

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does anyone know how this compares to a Klipsch SW-112?
Some debate on this. It goes on sale more often and there is probably some name brand mark up. I think PL200 is better but I haven't heard the SW-112. I also don't know what changes have gone into this newer version. For my money I'd get the PL200.

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For those of you who know subs, I'm building a Klipsch RP series HT. I want a killer sub... for about $1k or less. Would you do the SVS PB2000 or HSU VTF-15H MK2? Do those ever go on sale? Thanks!!!
SVS subs do go on sale every year. You can pick up a PB, SB for like $500? Search the SD forum for price history. I would love to have SVS or HSU or Rythmik sub. Some people may suggest to get two mid end subs instead of just one high end sub.
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Not bad but IMHO it's better to get a HSU,SVS,or Outlaw.
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if you run 2 subwoofers is it best that they are the exact same model, or make?
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Not bad but IMHO it's better to get a HSU,SVS,or Outlaw.
not exactly the same price category
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does anyone know how this compares to a Klipsch SW-112?
the klipsch has 300 watts continuous power but only goes down to 26hz

Bic PL-200 II is rated at 200 w continuous but goes down to 22hz

I have the Klipsch and I love it, but I dont think you can go wrong with either at this price point (but i wouldnt recommend spending over 250 for either)
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Need some feedback on this one... only 250 continuous, but found one review and it was positive... out for 2 months. Like the 8tr warranty. I was going to wait till Black Friday to grab the best I could find. Room is about 20x30 it's going in. Is there a model I should wait for a price drop on or jump in this? Thanks!!
I have this. It's a good sub. It's not going to blow you away by any means like some of the subs that cost 1000 dollars and can hit 12 hz, but this is a great sub for the money. You'd be hard pressed to find one better for the money IMO.
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Saw this the other day, literally caved and got the bic f12 last month for $220.. worth returning it and getting this? I'd have to pay return shipping.
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if you run 2 subwoofers is it best that they are the exact same model, or make?
Generally, yes.

Especially because most cheaper receivers can't tune for multiple subs at all- so your best "tune" will be 2 identical subs an identical distance from the receiver (and ideally identically placed, so both in a corner, or both in the middle of a wall, etc).


If you have a more advanced receiver than can independently tune 2 subs it's another story (though you'll still likely get better results with matching subs)



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For those of you who know subs, I'm building a Klipsch RP series HT. I want a killer sub... for about $1k or less. Would you do the SVS PB2000 or HSU VTF-15H MK2? Do those ever go on sale? Thanks!!!

What size room is it (all 3 dimensions) and is it open to other rooms (and if so how big are they?)

Depending on the answer to that you might be better off with 2 smaller subs, or 1 large one.

Also if you have access to a Frys and are in a hurry or not... (because buying two Klipsch R-115SWs for $399 each will be by far the best bang/buck under 1k you can get... but they're only available in-store at Frys, and they haven't run that sale again in several months after running it a few times earlier this year- so that deal might or might not even come up again)


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SVS subs do go on sale every year. You can pick up a PB, SB for like $500? Search the SD forum for price history. I would love to have SVS or HSU or Rythmik sub. Some people may suggest to get two mid end subs instead of just one high end sub.
The $500 ones are smaller/less powerful than the ones that guy is asking about.
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