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Pioneer SP-T22A-LR Andrew Jones Dolby Atmos Add-on speakers (pair) $99

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I'm currently running a pair of these, and purchased two more to complete a 5.1.4 configuration powered by a Denon x4300H AVR.
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Be aware that I own these and have found that even under Dolby's placement specs, they are no where as immersive as true ceiling speakers. It is really night and day. Only use these if you cannot put speakers on the ceiling.
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So in a current 7.1 setup, would two of these normally go on the front l/r speakers?
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So in a current 7.1 setup, would two of these normally go on the front l/r speakers?
From what I've read they can go in front or back, seems like people test them both ways to see what they like best. Or else they go with 4 total for 7.1.4.
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From what I've read they can go in front or back, seems like people test them both ways to see what they like best. Or else they go with 4 total for 7.1.4.
Thanks. Since wiring to the back are so much more difficult I think I'll try the front first and hope they sound good there. Wink
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My current setup is 7.1 (all Pioneer speakers except for the back L/R which are older speakers).

I have a Sony STR-DN1080 receiver. Looking at the manual, it looks like if I were to get these, they would replace the back speakers - it doesn't look like I can add them and keep the existing 7 speakers.

Does that sound correct?
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My current setup is 7.1 (all Pioneer speakers except for the back L/R which are older speakers).

I have a Sony STR-DN1080 receiver. Looking at the manual, it looks like if I were to get these, they would replace the back speakers - it doesn't look like I can add them and keep the existing 7 speakers.

Does that sound correct?
Yeah, since your receiver is a 7.2 AVR, you would have to go from a 7.1 to a 5.1.2 setup. Your two rears would be replaced by these 2 atmos speakers. I have a 5.1 so I'm going to buy these to test out, but I am not sure if they are worth sacrificing a 7.1 setup.
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Yeah, since your receiver is a 7.2 AVR, you would have to go from a 7.1 to a 5.1.2 setup. Your two rears would be replaced by these 2 atmos speakers. I have a 5.1 so I'm going to buy these to test out, but I am not sure if they are worth sacrificing a 7.1 setup.
It is. According to Dolby's reference installation guide, the preference is always having more height speakers than surround so 5.1.2 > 7.1; 5.1.4 > 9.1

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide...index.html
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It is. According to Dolby's reference installation guide, the preference is always having more height speakers than surround so 5.1.2 > 7.1; 5.1.4 > 9.1

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide...index.html
You might be right, but I'm still not sure that these specific speakers are worth it. If you were putting actual in-ceiling speakers, then I would completely agree, but up-firing speakers might not give the "true" Atmos height effect. I'm honestly no expert though, which is why I'm still getting them to try it out myself.
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Be aware that I own these and have found that even under Dolby's placement specs, they are no where as immersive as true ceiling speakers. It is really night and day. Only use these if you cannot put speakers on the ceiling.
thanks. Can't access the ceiling, so these'll have to do. Would you say they're about half as effective as in-ceiling speakers?
Will be getting a Denon 4300 [bhphotovideo.com] maybe at Black Friday (if the price goes down another hundred or two from its current $799, which still is an amazing deal), and have the AJ fronts and bookshelf speakers. Not sure if I'll be able to run 5.2.4, or just 5.1.4, and how I might have to use a preamp...learning.
Also looking for a crisp and clear center speaker, and am willing to spend $ for that.
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Curious about timbre matching. Running PSB's. Receiver is Yamaha Aventage is capable of it and always been curious about doing something like this.
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Be aware that I own these and have found that even under Dolby's placement specs, they are no where as immersive as true ceiling speakers. It is really night and day. Only use these if you cannot put speakers on the ceiling.
Yeah, the effect (if it worked) seems really nice. However, everything I've read supports what you wrote. Unless you have ceiling speakers, atmos isn't worth the bother. These upfiring speakers seem a little gimmicky.
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thanks. Can't access the ceiling, so these'll have to do. Would you say they're about half as effective as in-ceiling speakers?
Will be getting a Denon 4300 [bhphotovideo.com] maybe at Black Friday (if the price goes down another hundred or two from its current $799, which still is an amazing deal), and have the AJ fronts and bookshelf speakers. Not sure if I'll be able to run 5.2.4, or just 5.1.4, and how I might have to use a preamp...learning.
Also looking for a crisp and clear center speaker, and am willing to spend $ for that.
I have the Yamaha 7810 and first used these upfiring speakers on top of my 5ft tower speakers. My ceiling is about 11-12ft and flat.
The sounds from the Atmos mix sounded like they were coming from just above the tower speakers but definitely not from overhead.
Maybe with the Denon and 2 more Atmos for the rear the sound is more pronounced from above, but once I put the Atmos speakers on the ceiling (using hook and pointing them down), the difference was stunning. I love watching everything in Atmos now- even blu-ray movies upmixed from Dolby Surround/DTS:X.
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I have my 5.1 speakers setup per Dolby recommendations and want to add Atmos with the add-on speakers, however, my two fronts are too narrow, these speakers would look ridiculous right on top of them. Can I put the Atmos add-on speakers 1 foot or so to the side of my fronts or will that really throw off the effect? I would of course re-calibrate my system with the auto-calibration mic hoping that it would be able to compensate. Thoughts?
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I do not have these speakers, but I do have a similar version made by NHT and had a lot of success getting them set up to provide very realistic height effects. Here's some info I posted to AVSForum about my setup that may be helpful to folks trying to get the up-firing speakers to work:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-...st54832298

Bottom line is that if you have a relatively flat ceiling with the right height, you can get it to work with some tweaking.
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