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Mongoose Selous Expert Gravel Bike, Med/56cm only, $881 $881.3

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I own the "Comp" version of this bike which has the same frame and many components, except a different groupset (Tiagra vs 105) and brakes (TRP Hy-RD vs Shimano full hydraulic). Also this has thru axles. I've seen this bike on sale at Nashbar.com in the $1200 range but MSRP is $2000. It's a heavy aluminum frame but as long as you're not racing cyclocross, the bike gives a very comfortable ride.

The Expert adds the Shimano 105 groupset, hydraulic disk brakes and thru axles. The other sizes are over twice the cost. Looks like only one is available. If it was in size 58 I would buy it on principle. Size 56 should fit 5'10"-6'0" people, but it depends.
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Is there anything about this bike that makes it anything more than a road bike with deep treads? Can I change the tires on my road bike to covert it over? I have to say my Specialized isn't great on some of my local streets... it can't handle much dirt or variation in the terrain.
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Is there anything about this bike that makes it anything more than a road bike with deep treads? Can I change the tires on my road bike to covert it over? I have to say my Specialized isn't great on some of my local streets... it can't handle much dirt or variation in the terrain.
Odds are you don't have enough clearance to fit a much larger tire on your road bike. If your bike has disc brakes you could easily get a 27.5" wheel set to fit a larger tire.
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Buy on principal, that's hardcore sd'er right there. +1
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Is there anything about this bike that makes it anything more than a road bike with deep treads? Can I change the tires on my road bike to covert it over? I have to say my Specialized isn't great on some of my local streets... it can't handle much dirt or variation in the terrain.
You can put narrower tires on this bike, but on your road bike you will be limited by clearance on your fork and chainstay preventing you from putting on decent cross or gravel tires. You will also likely have different geometry that makes your bike less desirable to ride on bumpy terrain.

Your typical road bike has 23 or 25mm wide tires. This bike has 40mm wide tires. It has a carbon fork and the aluminum frame is very compliant on rougher terrain.

You get 160mm hydraulic disc brakes, and disc brakes are a big improvement for real world riding, even if rim brakes are still viable for time trial and professional racing events due to the fact that they are racing contests, not braking contests.

Where I live, the best bicycling is trails that consist of chipped limestone, pretty satisfying to ride with these fatter tires.
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Is there anything about this bike that makes it anything more than a road bike with deep treads? Can I change the tires on my road bike to covert it over? I have to say my Specialized isn't great on some of my local streets... it can't handle much dirt or variation in the terrain.
You should look in the CX bikes. I recently moved out of the city and wasn't liking how my CAAD9 handled on local roads. I bought a 2014 Raleigh Furly single speed CX bike of craigslist for 300 and have absolutely loved it.
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Wow a gravel road bike, would think a hybrid 29er with mountain parts and a suspension fork would be a lot better ride under that type of terrain. Might be a reason its on sale, it will shift nice for bit untill you gets rocks in its drivetrain.
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Wow a gravel road bike, would think a hybrid 29er with mountain parts and a suspension fork would be a lot better ride under that type of terrain. Might be a reason its on sale, it will shift nice for bit untill you gets rocks in its drivetrain.
You do realize that there really isn't much mechanical difference in a road vs mtb drivetrain, right? You are just as likely to "get rocks in " a MTB vs a road bike. Which in over a decade of biking on Various MTBs, Fatbikes and Road bikes, has NEVER happened to me once..Small twigs and leaves here and there, yes, but you just clean them out and move on.

The majority of people out there aren't going to do any kind of riding that needs a suspension. Anything paved, and most of the common stone dust trails don't need it. You are just adding extra weight and if there is no lockout, absorbing energy that should be used to propel the bike foward. Also, in these lower price brackets, those cheap spring forks are so bad, you are better off without it.
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Can I change the tires on my road bike to covert it over? I have to say my Specialized isn't great on some of my local streets... it can't handle much dirt or variation in the terrain.
You should be able to switch to a wider tire to a point. It really depends on the rim, and the geometry of the bike. Sometimes, its simply the tires you have to begin with, they might be crap tires. My roadie came with cheap kendas I blew out in a couple months, and putting a new set of continentals, it felt like an entirely new bike again. I would suggest asking a local bike shop and they should be able to tell you.

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Is there anything about this bike that makes it anything more than a road bike with deep treads?
sometimes stronger wheels than a hardcore road bike, but really that's about it.
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Buy on principal, that's hardcore sd'er right there. +1
Tempted. Really tempted.
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You can put narrower tires on this bike, but on your road bike you will be limited by clearance on your fork and chainstay preventing you from putting on decent cross or gravel tires. You will also likely have different geometry that makes your bike less desirable to ride on bumpy terrain.

Your typical road bike has 23 or 25mm wide tires. This bike has 40mm wide tires. It has a carbon fork and the aluminum frame is very compliant on rougher terrain.

You get 160mm hydraulic disc brakes, and disc brakes are a big improvement for real world riding, even if rim brakes are still viable for time trial and professional racing events due to the fact that they are racing contests, not braking contests.

Where I live, the best bicycling is trails that consist of chipped limestone, pretty satisfying to ride with these fatter tires.
Disk brakes do not offer big braking improvement in real world. You can easily lock up rim brakes or disk brakes. Then braking performance is entirely reliant on the tire. The only benefit of disk brakes is they work better in wet environments. If you dont plan on riding in the rain or splashing through puddles/creeks, then you will never see a difference. Disk brakes do have much more maintenance, cost, and weight though.

Unless you plan on riding in wet conditions, disk brakes are a waste of money for the average rider.
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Unless you plan on riding in wet conditions, disk brakes are a waste of money for the average rider.
Disc brakes, especially hydraulic brakes and even-more-especially on bikes with thru-axles, are easier to keep aligned than rim brakes. Brake "feel" is improved when the entire revolution of the tire gives a consistent brake feel. The initial bite of disk brakes is better than rim brakes, and it's easier to control braking power than with rim brakes. Maintenance can be easier as well, toeing in brake pads is no longer a thing.
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getting one Smilie
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Probably getting a new bike next year, hope we see more of these niche type deals
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Disc brakes, especially hydraulic brakes and even-more-especially on bikes with thru-axles, are easier to keep aligned than rim brakes. Brake "feel" is improved when the entire revolution of the tire gives a consistent brake feel. The initial bite of disk brakes is better than rim brakes, and it's easier to control braking power than with rim brakes. Maintenance can be easier as well, toeing in brake pads is no longer a thing.
It is all in your mind. It is a common coping mechanism for people to try to justify higher priced items that provide no tangible benefits.

There is zero chance that maintenance of disk brakes is easier than rim. Now you went from choice-supportive bias to full on BS.
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