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Been this price for a long while. Ive also been tempted for a long while but dont know how he game is doing. I really want to buy this and Path of Fire at once honestly...decisions decisions.
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The first guild wars sucked so much of my time .. I bought the second one on sale, haven't really played it
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Been this price for a long while. Ive also been tempted for a long while but dont know how he game is doing. I really want to buy this and Path of Fire at once honestly...decisions decisions.
Path of Fire is doing great. The majority of the reviews I've seen on YouTube have been quite positive. And many people who disliked GW2 before have actually been really enjoying it after getting PoF.

And for me personally I love the mounts and all the throw backs to GW1 in PoF. It is fantastic. Sure the game still has it's faults, but it is in the best state it has ever been so far. Sure there's still some balance issues, but that's normal for any new expansion content. The game's player count has been quite healthy. The maps are a little empty right now due to the Halloween festival event going on, but once that passes I'm sure more areas will fill up again. Before Halloween the Path of Fire maps were lit (pun intended). There was always people doing things. Even the Heart of Thorns maps were quite active, emptier than before PoF was released, but you were still able to fully enjoy the maps. Right now if you head into Lion's Arch, the city where the Halloween event is going on, it is jam packed because of Halloween. But once as that ends in a couple weeks things should even out.

All in all PoF and Heart of Thorns are both great expansions to the base game. I used to be a player that was gone for an entire year from the game because I was just frustrated with the devs and the constant massive overhauls and seemingly unfair everything. But with Heart of Thorns they've really found their stride and things are going quite well now. For veteran players that were there since the launch of core GW2 it feels like we played a giant beta for like 2 years and that kind of sucks, but for anyone jumping in now it is a great time to do so.

You also get level 80 boosts with each expansion. That means you can make a character and go straight to max level and do any of the higher level content. Now I recommend you still start with a new one and level your way up to get used to the game and use the boost on subsequent alternate characters, but it is your choice. I would highly recommend Heart of Thorns and especially Path of Fire to anyone willing to give GW2 a chance.

Now what I don't recommend is buying from grey market resellers. I have used CDKeys in the past and haven't had any issues, but I have heard stories of people's accounts getting banned in GW2 from using places like G2A and CDkeys. So buy at your own risk. But know that if you buy PoF from Anet directly they will sell you HoT at a discount. $50 for both where it would be $30 individually if I'm not mistaken.
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Game is fun. Maps and mounts are awesome although most of the new elite specs are meh.

Aside from that though never buy from sites that aren't authorized sellers listed on their website. They regularly go through and ban keys that came from these gray market sites so save yourself the headache and just buy authorized if you're going to get it.
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Path of Fire is doing great. The majority of the reviews I've seen on YouTube have been quite positive. And many people who disliked GW2 before have actually been really enjoying it after getting PoF.

And for me personally I love the mounts and all the throw backs to GW1 in PoF. It is fantastic. Sure the game still has it's faults, but it is in the best state it has ever been so far. Sure there's still some balance issues, but that's normal for any new expansion content. The game's player count has been quite healthy. The maps are a little empty right now due to the Halloween festival event going on, but once that passes I'm sure more areas will fill up again. Before Halloween the Path of Fire maps were lit (pun intended). There was always people doing things. Even the Heart of Thorns maps were quite active, emptier than before PoF was released, but you were still able to fully enjoy the maps. Right now if you head into Lion's Arch, the city where the Halloween event is going on, it is jam packed because of Halloween. But once as that ends in a couple weeks things should even out.

All in all PoF and Heart of Thorns are both great expansions to the base game. I used to be a player that was gone for an entire year from the game because I was just frustrated with the devs and the constant massive overhauls and seemingly unfair everything. But with Heart of Thorns they've really found their stride and things are going quite well now. For veteran players that were there since the launch of core GW2 it feels like we played a giant beta for like 2 years and that kind of sucks, but for anyone jumping in now it is a great time to do so.

You also get level 80 boosts with each expansion. That means you can make a character and go straight to max level and do any of the higher level content. Now I recommend you still start with a new one and level your way up to get used to the game and use the boost on subsequent alternate characters, but it is your choice. I would highly recommend Heart of Thorns and especially Path of Fire to anyone willing to give GW2 a chance.

Now what I don't recommend is buying from grey market resellers. I have used CDKeys in the past and haven't had any issues, but I have heard stories of people's accounts getting banned in GW2 from using places like G2A and CDkeys. So buy at your own risk. But know that if you buy PoF from Anet directly they will sell you HoT at a discount. $50 for both where it would be $30 individually if I'm not mistaken.

Dang friend! I appreciate the info. I have been on the fence for a long time and had more of less given up on the game before now. I own the base game and have one lvl 78 character and a few alts I couldnt summon the willpower to level. The game is good in so many ways but I was missing the exploration and drive to do things that I did in say...WoW. I know they are most definitely not the same games but Im one of those guys that love economy and exploration for the sake of seeing cool things (not collecting things on a map). I swear I put in like 100+ hrs into GW2 before stopping but not all in PvE. Wasnt until later that you could do WvW and PvP to get Tomes of Knowledge and lvl up that way so my toons stagnated.
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I think I leveled 5 toons just by running wvw. zerg. didn't like the dungeons or end game much and gave it up when HoT came out. I just got a copy of ESO online and thats we're im grinding slowly. I liked gw2 much better than eso combat.
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I own the base game and have one lvl 78 character and a few alts I couldnt summon the willpower to level....Wasnt until later that you could do WvW and PvP to get Tomes of Knowledge and lvl up that way so my toons stagnated.
Tomes of Knowledge are overflowing in most people's inventories now. And that's not just from playing PvP and WvW. Just doing dailies, which takes like 15 minutes on average everyday, and logging in gives you XP scrolls and level tomes. Leveling up is pretty fast and easy nowadays. Also the birthday presents all give level scrolls that will boost you up. Level 20 scroll for 1 year, level 30 for 2 years, and so on.

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The game is good in so many ways but I was missing the exploration and drive to do things that I did in say...WoW. I know they are most definitely not the same games but Im one of those guys that love economy and exploration for the sake of seeing cool things (not collecting things on a map).
Exploration in Path of Fire is quite good. Heart of Thorns not as much, but it's sorta there. Path of Fire maps are GIGANTIC, so you really get that sense of finding new places. Especially if you've played GW1 there are a lot of throwback locations. Though if core is all you've played there will be a lot to do if you get both expansions.

And unlike season 1 all the Living Story seasons are permanent now. If you log in during each episode you get said episode for free. If not you can always buy episodes and seasons you missed with gems. Season 2 added 2 maps, but season 3 added a whopping 6 new maps. If the trend continues season 4 will be adding a lot of maps as well. So there's a good amount of content being added to the game now that they're not reinventing it every 6 months. The old issue of missing content if you didn't massively grind every 2 weeks where you'll have no time for anything else besides the game and having to relearn everything every 6 months is thankfully a thing of the past. Now the game can be played at your leisure.

And in regard to the economy, it is bonkers. I swear I question what Anet's economist is doing sometimes. To be completely honest, it is mostly okay. There are a ton of alternatives now to getting gear that isn't completely dependent on RNG that you can work towards and earn with some dedication so it isn't too bad. But there are a few materials and items that are wildly overpriced and Anet cannot seem to figure out a way to balance things. For example, for the 3 different armor types (light, medium, heavy) medium armor is probably 2 to 3 times more expensive than the other two because Anet for some reason decided to choke the leather supply, but leave the cloth and metal supplies alone. There are still people that make thousands upon thousands of gold by playing the market and flipping on the trading post, but I personally could never figure it out nor desire to do so.
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I think I leveled 5 toons just by running wvw. zerg. didn't like the dungeons or end game much and gave it up when HoT came out. I just got a copy of ESO online and thats we're im grinding slowly. I liked gw2 much better than eso combat.
I completely understand why you would leave the game when HoT came out. It was in a rough spot until about the time the first raid came out. And the core GW2 is pretty bad. Aside from my love for GW1 and the combat, there really wasn't much of a reason for me to stick around during the first few years of GW2. I also ended up quitting the game for a while until my friend convinced me to come back. Even then it was a lot better, but still frustrating. Getting Heart of Thorns did help, but even that was iffy for the first 6 months or so. But at least right now, I feel the game is a great place.

Definitely a lot more end game content now. There's raids with Heart of Thorns and raids will be coming out with Path of Fire soon enough. I am sad that dungeons are basically neglected now, but there are Fractals of the Mist, which is like mini-dungeons. They added like 5 new fractals I think? I could be wrong, but it's quite a few. So there's dungeon like content being added. There's a whole team at Anet dedicated to just Fractals. And if I'm not mistaken all the fractals are available in the core. They're not expansion dependent to play. But definitely with HoT and PoF out now if you own both expansions there is a lot of varied PvE end game content like giant meta events, bounty hunts, raids, etc. It does suck that a lot of the content is behind the paywall called expansions, but that's just the nature of MMOs.

Even in WvW and PvP there are a lot of content updates. You can now get legendary stat swappable armor in WvW, which used to be only available through raiding. It takes a really really long time to get, but it's something to work at. PvP has automated tournaments and seasons are far more frequent now. All in all WvW and PvP are much more rewarding than they used to be. If you're into fashion, you can get a very large chunk of skins available in the game from just playing the competitive content. Heck you can even unlock your elite specializations purely from just playing WvW. You don't even need to step into PvE at all.

If you ever plan to come back to GW2 and can afford the disk space, I would recommend keeping the game installed and update it every now and again and log in whenever there's a new episode of the living story released. Even if you don't own the expansions, just logging in will unlock it for your account for free. You won't be able to play it until you buy the corresponding expansion, but you won't have to purchase that episode of living story later on for gems. And if season 3 is any indication, the living story content is superb for getting end game gear.
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Heard this was a great game.. but is this just a DLC or the does it come with the orig. content?
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Tomes of Knowledge are overflowing in most people's inventories now. And that's not just from playing PvP and WvW. Just doing dailies, which takes like 15 minutes on average everyday, and logging in gives you XP scrolls and level tomes. Leveling up is pretty fast and easy nowadays. Also the birthday presents all give level scrolls that will boost you up. Level 20 scroll for 1 year, level 30 for 2 years, and so on.



Exploration in Path of Fire is quite good. Heart of Thorns not as much, but it's sorta there. Path of Fire maps are GIGANTIC, so you really get that sense of finding new places. Especially if you've played GW1 there are a lot of throwback locations. Though if core is all you've played there will be a lot to do if you get both expansions.

And unlike season 1 all the Living Story seasons are permanent now. If you log in during each episode you get said episode for free. If not you can always buy episodes and seasons you missed with gems. Season 2 added 2 maps, but season 3 added a whopping 6 new maps. If the trend continues season 4 will be adding a lot of maps as well. So there's a good amount of content being added to the game now that they're not reinventing it every 6 months. The old issue of missing content if you didn't massively grind every 2 weeks where you'll have no time for anything else besides the game and having to relearn everything every 6 months is thankfully a thing of the past. Now the game can be played at your leisure.

And in regard to the economy, it is bonkers. I swear I question what Anet's economist is doing sometimes. To be completely honest, it is mostly okay. There are a ton of alternatives now to getting gear that isn't completely dependent on RNG that you can work towards and earn with some dedication so it isn't too bad. But there are a few materials and items that are wildly overpriced and Anet cannot seem to figure out a way to balance things. For example, for the 3 different armor types (light, medium, heavy) medium armor is probably 2 to 3 times more expensive than the other two because Anet for some reason decided to choke the leather supply, but leave the cloth and metal supplies alone. There are still people that make thousands upon thousands of gold by playing the market and flipping on the trading post, but I personally could never figure it out nor desire to do so.
Gosh. I really appreciate all the info in this post and the next one that you wrote for the other guy lol. I really really tempted to come back but I will say that a lack of fun economy to play is a sad thing for me. I loved mining and skinning in WoW because it was just something you could do while questing and then you could take this side activity and turn it into gold by playing the markets. Was fun. In GW2 I always feel like Im never going to make enough cash to enjoy the game as some folks do. I always felt "oh well, never gonna have enough gold to make THAT weapon or build THAT bag". It was always such a huge turn off.

I also sadly have missed much of Living World. I logged in to get a few of the episodes for free but I dont know what I do or do not have. Really sucks and I do NOT plan on shoveling over more cash on top of the expansions for that. I dont know to be honest. I have just fond memories of the game but there are issues that make it hard to go back.

Last important question...does loading into the game still take 200 years?
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I loved mining and skinning in WoW because it was just something you could do while questing and then you could take this side activity and turn it into gold by playing the markets. Was fun. In GW2 I always feel like Im never going to make enough cash to enjoy the game as some folks do. I always felt "oh well, never gonna have enough gold to make THAT weapon or build THAT bag". It was always such a huge turn off.
Well making money isn't too bad. I was able to make quite a bit from just gathering mats when I actually tried to make gold. You just don't really make any money from just playing around without a goal like I usually do lol. I could easily make 10g a day with minimal work. Once I made like 300g or so in one week from just chopping wood. But most people say you can easily make like 20g a day from just doing your daily fractals. A precursor, the item needed to make legendary weapons, costs from 100g to 800g or so, but with HoT the precursors can alternatively be earned via collections. Aside from a few items, most things can be earned. There's also a variety of farming runs you can do like a RIBA run in the Silverwastes that can earn you a pretty penny. If you tried hard enough a lot of people report making like 20g an hour easily. Though I would assume the real average is somewhere around 10g an hour. It's not that hard to make money if you dedicate yourself to the game a bit. But if you play casually for like an hour a day, that won't net you much. All you would get from that is probably the 2g you get from finishing your dailies. So with absolute minimal effort, a player will earn 2g a day. Flipping on the trading post is quite popular too. There are multiple websites that you can use to search through and find the best items to flip and what not. If you just ask around in the game or on the subreddit I'm sure you can find something. Though there are still a few items that are either extremely rare or just "too rich for my blood" that I and a lot of players just go, "NOPE." But these items are few and far between and every now and again Anet does remedy it by injecting a few more of these items into the market to bring down the price a smidgen. Though this doesn't happen often enough in my opinion.

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I also sadly have missed much of Living World. I logged in to get a few of the episodes for free but I dont know what I do or do not have. Really sucks and I do NOT plan on shoveling over more cash on top of the expansions for that.
Yea, it does suck that you can't just get Living Story for free, especially since it has some fairly important story moments. But the in-game menus and such do tell you what you are missing. And if you're missing a whole season they do sell a discounted package as well. I think it prorates depending on whether you own some episodes or not as well I think, but don't quote me on that. Though I will say that season 3 felt almost like a mini expansion due to the amount of content and story it put out. Take that as you will.

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Last important question...does loading into the game still take 200 years?
Yes, I think. It's been ages since I've loaded the game off of a standard HDD so I can't say for sure. But if you have an SSD it loads in under 2 minutes usually.

Oh and as a bit of a side note, there is pretty good add-on support for the game now. It's nowhere near as good as WoW or ESO, but the devs are much better about allowing third party add-ons now and it is steadily growing. Just google GW2TacO, GW2Hook, and ArcDPS for some of the more popular ones that are said to be given an official okay from Anet themselves. Another side is that I would recommend watching someone like WoodenPotatoes on YouTube if you want a more in-depth look at the game. He covers it quite well, though his content can be a bit long. And for more information I would say to check out the GW2 subreddit. Though take what's said on there with a grain of salt. As with any internet community there can be a lot of hyperbole and general trolling, but the GW2 subreddit is one of the better ones I've encountered. It's actually quite well moderated. ESO's subreddit is quite good too, though I feel like there is a lot of fluff in that one.
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Heard this was a great game.. but is this just a DLC or the does it come with the orig. content?
The base game is actually free to play now. So you can just go download it and try it out. Both Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire are expansions. While I would recommend purchasing the expansions, it is not necessary to just enjoy the game. You can play the entire original campaign that released in 2012 and play in the various PvP modes for free. Now there are some limitations to what your account can do in a free-to-play state, but they're minimal like not being able to send or receive vast quantities of gold through mail. These kinds of things are mostly to deter gold sellers, but partially to get you to buy an expansion laugh out loud. They gotta make money somehow nod
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I completely understand why you would leave the game when HoT came out. It was in a rough spot until about the time the first raid came out. And the core GW2 is pretty bad. Aside from my love for GW1 and the combat, there really wasn't much of a reason for me to stick around during the first few years of GW2. I also ended up quitting the game for a while until my friend convinced me to come back. Even then it was a lot better, but still frustrating. Getting Heart of Thorns did help, but even that was iffy for the first 6 months or so. But at least right now, I feel the game is a great place.

Definitely a lot more end game content now. There's raids with Heart of Thorns and raids will be coming out with Path of Fire soon enough. I am sad that dungeons are basically neglected now, but there are Fractals of the Mist, which is like mini-dungeons. They added like 5 new fractals I think? I could be wrong, but it's quite a few. So there's dungeon like content being added. There's a whole team at Anet dedicated to just Fractals. And if I'm not mistaken all the fractals are available in the core. They're not expansion dependent to play. But definitely with HoT and PoF out now if you own both expansions there is a lot of varied PvE end game content like giant meta events, bounty hunts, raids, etc. It does suck that a lot of the content is behind the paywall called expansions, but that's just the nature of MMOs.

Even in WvW and PvP there are a lot of content updates. You can now get legendary stat swappable armor in WvW, which used to be only available through raiding. It takes a really really long time to get, but it's something to work at. PvP has automated tournaments and seasons are far more frequent now. All in all WvW and PvP are much more rewarding than they used to be. If you're into fashion, you can get a very large chunk of skins available in the game from just playing the competitive content. Heck you can even unlock your elite specializations purely from just playing WvW. You don't even need to step into PvE at all.

If you ever plan to come back to GW2 and can afford the disk space, I would recommend keeping the game installed and update it every now and again and log in whenever there's a new episode of the living story released. Even if you don't own the expansions, just logging in will unlock it for your account for free. You won't be able to play it until you buy the corresponding expansion, but you won't have to purchase that episode of living story later on for gems. And if season 3 is any indication, the living story content is superb for getting end game gear.
that's one thing I remembered hating,the fractals and puzzles. who the hell came up w those? so annoying. end game was terrible
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Well making money isn't too bad. I was able to make quite a bit from just gathering mats when I actually tried to make gold. You just don't really make any money from just playing around without a goal like I usually do lol. I could easily make 10g a day with minimal work. Once I made like 300g or so in one week from just chopping wood. But most people say you can easily make like 20g a day from just doing your daily fractals. A precursor, the item needed to make legendary weapons, costs from 100g to 800g or so, but with HoT the precursors can alternatively be earned via collections. Aside from a few items, most things can be earned. There's also a variety of farming runs you can do like a RIBA run in the Silverwastes that can earn you a pretty penny. If you tried hard enough a lot of people report making like 20g an hour easily. Though I would assume the real average is somewhere around 10g an hour. It's not that hard to make money if you dedicate yourself to the game a bit. But if you play casually for like an hour a day, that won't net you much. All you would get from that is probably the 2g you get from finishing your dailies. So with absolute minimal effort, a player will earn 2g a day. Flipping on the trading post is quite popular too. There are multiple websites that you can use to search through and find the best items to flip and what not. If you just ask around in the game or on the subreddit I'm sure you can find something. Though there are still a few items that are either extremely rare or just "too rich for my blood" that I and a lot of players just go, "NOPE." But these items are few and far between and every now and again Anet does remedy it by injecting a few more of these items into the market to bring down the price a smidgen. Though this doesn't happen often enough in my opinion.



Yea, it does suck that you can't just get Living Story for free, especially since it has some fairly important story moments. But the in-game menus and such do tell you what you are missing. And if you're missing a whole season they do sell a discounted package as well. I think it prorates depending on whether you own some episodes or not as well I think, but don't quote me on that. Though I will say that season 3 felt almost like a mini expansion due to the amount of content and story it put out. Take that as you will.


Yes, I think. It's been ages since I've loaded the game off of a standard HDD so I can't say for sure. But if you have an SSD it loads in under 2 minutes usually.

Oh and as a bit of a side note, there is pretty good add-on support for the game now. It's nowhere near as good as WoW or ESO, but the devs are much better about allowing third party add-ons now and it is steadily growing. Just google GW2TacO, GW2Hook, and ArcDPS for some of the more popular ones that are said to be given an official okay from Anet themselves. Another side is that I would recommend watching someone like WoodenPotatoes on YouTube if you want a more in-depth look at the game. He covers it quite well, though his content can be a bit long. And for more information I would say to check out the GW2 subreddit. Though take what's said on there with a grain of salt. As with any internet community there can be a lot of hyperbole and general trolling, but the GW2 subreddit is one of the better ones I've encountered. It's actually quite well moderated. ESO's subreddit is quite good too, though I feel like there is a lot of fluff in that one.
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