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Fraudulent voting

413 310 October 23, 2017 at 05:13 PM
Is Slickdeals doing anything about the constant fraudulant voting/feedback? There are resellers out there who are intentionally downvoting a thread so it will not show up in the search results. On a website I will leave nameless I saw several people bragging about downvoting threads on this site so no one would find the deal, and they asked other people to do the same.

Every time I post a really good deal it just gets buried in down votes. I am not doing anything wrong. I am following this sites guidelines.

For example, I just posted this thread. Within a second of posting someone downvoted because they "couldnt replicate the deal". I find it hard to believe that someone searched all their local walmarts for the item within 1 second.

My threads also get a lot of downvotes for "other" or "spam". In the thread I mentioned i didnt even post a URL. So i dont understand how anyone would consider this post spam, when there is no URL and I am not making any money. My only conclusion is resellers are downvoting my posts to bury them.

Is Slickdeals doing anything about this? If someone posts a good deal and it follows all the rules and guidelines, and it is not rude or offensive, it should not have any downvotes. If the title of a thread says "YMMV", then people should not be able to downvote for "not able to replicate deal", because YMMV means each store will vary.

It really makes me angry and i rarely post any deals on this site any more because I will post an amazing deal, and maybe I get 1 upvote. I try and be positive and follow the rules, but this site punishes you for doing that.

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I'm not interested in walmart deals... but to be fair, you been a member since 2009... should know better to use brickseek than to post some long list that takes 7-9 scrolls to get past. Actually that showed up on my RSS feed and I had to do 7 scrolls to get to the next post... so I should go back and TD it.
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Hi goshes. First let me say thanks for taking time to share deals with the community.

Any abuse of the features made available on the site for sharing deals and providing feedback is taken seriously. We do not allow voting for any purpose other than expressing a user's honest opinion of a deal. I can appreciate your desire not to publicly post what you've found so feel free to email it to us so that we can investigate further.

As is indicated by comments in the thread you linked as well as a great many others, users will vote up/down a thread for any number of reasons which may not always be adequately reflected by the limited number of choices provided when casting a vote. In-store only deals can garner more unwarranted negative feedback than others if users simply don't notice or understand that the deal is not available online. Despite all efforts made by deal posters to disclose that fact, this does still happen on a regular basis and could explain why such a deal can receive a negative vote only moments after the deal is posted.

Personally, I think having the option to express an inability to get a deal on a YMMV thread is valuable feedback. If an in-store only deal has widespread availability, I would expect it to have a larger number of positive votes and smaller number of negative votes than a deal that may only be available in a few locations. Some users may not be willing to invest the time going to the store(s) unless they see there's a significant chance that they'll be able to replicate the deal.

I understand that it can be frustrating to spend time authoring a deal only to see it not well received or never seem to attract much attention. Even a great deal with no constraints on availability can on occasion suffer from bad luck / unfortunate timing. The best thing to do is take any constructive feedback into consideration and try not to let the rest discourage you too much. Thumbup
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I'm not interested in walmart deals... but to be fair, you been a member since 2009... should know better to use brickseek than to post some long list that takes 7-9 scrolls to get past. Actually that showed up on my RSS feed and I had to do 7 scrolls to get to the next post... so I should go back and TD it.
If you look at other deals ive posted they dont have a long list and they all have a lot of thumb down. Any deals I post are very good. They are being down voted by resellers.
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Hi goshes. First let me say thanks for taking time to share deals with the community.

Any abuse of the features made available on the site for sharing deals and providing feedback is taken seriously. We do not allow voting for any purpose other than expressing a user's honest opinion of a deal. I can appreciate your desire not to publicly post what you've found so feel free to email it to us so that we can investigate further.

As is indicated by comments in the thread you linked as well as a great many others, users will vote up/down a thread for any number of reasons which may not always be adequately reflected by the limited number of choices provided when casting a vote. In-store only deals can garner more unwarranted negative feedback than others if users simply don't notice or understand that the deal is not available online. Despite all efforts made by deal posters to disclose that fact, this does still happen on a regular basis and could explain why such a deal can receive a negative vote only moments after the deal is posted.

Personally, I think having the option to express an inability to get a deal on a YMMV thread is valuable feedback. If an in-store only deal has widespread availability, I would expect it to have a larger number of positive votes and smaller number of negative votes than a deal that may only be available in a few locations. Some users may not be willing to invest the time going to the store(s) unless they see there's a significant chance that they'll be able to replicate the deal.

I understand that it can be frustrating to spend time authoring a deal only to see it not well received or never seem to attract much attention. Even a great deal with no constraints on availability can on occasion suffer from bad luck / unfortunate timing. The best thing to do is take any constructive feedback into consideration and try not to let the rest discourage you too much. Thumbup
You're a fool. Buy a brickseek premium account and look at the forum. When I had an account a few months ago there were several people posting URL's to this site. They said they were intentionally downvoting good deals so they are hidden from the search. It was a big joke to them. I saw several good deals downvoted with like 20 downvotes when there was nothing wrong with the deal. This site has become a big joke. I can post a solid deal that has nothing wrong with it, and there's a good chance I will get a lot of downvotes for "other" or "spam". They are laughing at you on other sites.
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You're a fool. Buy a brickseek premium account and look at the forum. When I had an account a few months ago there were several people posting URL's to this site. They said they were intentionally downvoting good deals so they are hidden from the search. It was a big joke to them. I saw several good deals downvoted with like 20 downvotes when there was nothing wrong with the deal. This site has become a big joke. I can post a solid deal that has nothing wrong with it, and there's a good chance I will get a lot of downvotes for "other" or "spam". They are laughing at you on other sites.
There's no need to be rude.

I just looked into several of your threads and the voting within.
If I had seen the same people TDing across the board then I could see an argument for abuse.
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I TD'd the thread. I have resold one thing I've bought on slick deals ever. I TD'd it (as I explained in the thread) because there was next to no chance of replication. Posting an item with a stock of 1-2 items on average has proven many times over to rarely be worth while. I can definitely see resellers down voting a GOOD ymmv deal but I truly don't think that was the reason here. Just being honest. Also I personally wouldn't recommend calling a MOD a fool but to each their own.
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my $0.02, people do crap like that for any reason, all the time. ain't nothing admin/mod can do.
SD has some bad processes that need to be updated.
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