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Xindows Vista won't boot outside of safe mode

149 22 October 31, 2017 at 05:01 AM
Computer screek shut off unexpectedly one day, then returned. A few days later, the computer won't boot up. Safe mode works, just not "regular".

Gateway FX541X (standard build)
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT

Locks at crcdisk.sys

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Computer screek shut off unexpectedly one day, then returned. A few days later, the computer won't boot up. Safe mode works, just not "regular".

Gateway FX541X (standard build)
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT

Locks at crcdisk.sys
https://www.gogi.in/fix-crcdisksy...ystem.html

looks like the info for a fix. Google is your friend in this case.

That said, you do realize Vista is out of support and has been for awhile? Why would you still being running that thing? Assuming the hard disk is not going, it is time to re-burn and upgrade to Windows 7. Pull whatever data\files you need from it and load a clean, fresh version of Windows 7 imo. No one should be using Windows Vista at this point. In fact, no one really should ever have used Windows Vista lol.
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https://www.gogi.in/fix-crcdisksy...ystem.html

looks like the info for a fix. Google is your friend in this case.

That said, you do realize Vista is out of support and has been for awhile? Why would you still being running that thing? Assuming the hard disk is not going, it is time to re-burn and upgrade to Windows 7. Pull whatever data\files you need from it and load a clean, fresh version of Windows 7 imo. No one should be using Windows Vista at this point. In fact, no one really should ever have used Windows Vista lol.
I agree here, but I would upgrade to 10 using the work arounds available. Or buy a new system. Win 7 support runs out in January 2020. Win 7 is a pain to update from an SP1 install. There are scripts that exist out there to make this easier.
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In fact, no one really should ever have used Windows Vista lol.
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I agree here, but I would upgrade to 10 using the work arounds available. Or buy a new system. Win 7 support runs out in January 2020. Win 7 is a pain to update from an SP1 install. There are scripts that exist out there to make this easier.

It does take some time to upgrade from the SP1 install, but it is a one time annoyance. That machine is so old and under powered that at this point it is well past its useful life expectancy imo. Getting it to 2020 before replacing it with a new machine is about the best one could hope for. Windows 7 licenses can be had for cheap on Ebay (under 15-20 dollars) and if the OP works in a corporation and knows someone in IT\support, they might even give him an old license for free.

That, or as you noted, just replace it now with something new. Black Friday is quickly approaching.
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It does take some time to upgrade from the SP1 install, but it is a one time annoyance. That machine is so old and under powered that at this point it is well past its useful life expectancy imo. Getting it to 2020 before replacing it with a new machine is about the best one could hope for. Windows 7 licenses can be had for cheap on Ebay (under 15-20 dollars) and if the OP works in a corporation and knows someone in IT\support, they might even give him an old license for free.

That, or as you noted, just replace it now with something new. Black Friday is quickly approaching.
It's the patch order in W7 thats so important. If you just let windows do it's own thing it will likely not get them all or take days. I have a script that installs things in a specific order and with a decent internet connection you can patch a system in less then an hour.
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It's the patch order in W7 thats so important. If you just let windows do it's own thing it will likely not get them all or take days. I have a script that installs things in a specific order and with a decent internet connection you can patch a system in less then an hour.
Last time I did it I installed W7 SP1 and then MS Office and then ran Windows Update a number of times until it came up clean with no important updates. It took like 4-5 hours. It is definitely painful but it is a one time annoyance. Not something to do if you have a lot of machines to do, but for a one off, basically run the update until you get the 200+ update list and then hit install before you go to bed lol. That will be the bulk of it though you have to keep doing the update until it comes back clean.
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Given the age of the system early hard drive failure is certainly possible. Running "Xindows Vista" and "skreek shut offs" sounds like a serious issue too. Stick Out Tongue

Check your system event log for "disk" errors.

Seriously, here's what $329 could buy you at dell outlet right now:
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Processor: Intel Core 7th Generation i3-7100 Processor (Dual Core, 3.90 GHz, 3MB cache, 51W)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
1TB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
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basic diagnostics can determine what's wrong. running a chkdsk or even the built in diagnostics from Gateway. Check the event viewer see what it says. There's even a chance there could be a virus so download Malwarebytes and do a scan ( do you have Virus software and is it up to date and active?)

Just saying it's Vista and it sucks isn't much of a solution.
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There's even a chance there could be a virus so download Malwarebytes and do a scan ( do you have Virus software and is it up to date and active?)

Very much appreciate the help and opinions, especially at a tough time for me (some medical stuff has me a bit "handicapped" and I just need a little more help than usual, so I appreciate the patience as well).

I do have Malwarebytes installed and nothing came back on the last scan run.

Video card was replaced within the last year, but if the life expectancy of the machine as a whole is dim, it would probably make sense to replace the entire thing rather than the hard drive ? Although I'd rather not if possible.

Does it make sense to try fixing the chkdisk error?
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Very much appreciate the help and opinions, especially at a tough time for me (some medical stuff has me a bit "handicapped" and I just need a little more help than usual, so I appreciate the patience as well).

I do have Malwarebytes installed and nothing came back on the last scan run.

Video card was replaced within the last year, but if the life expectancy of the machine as a whole is dim, it would probably make sense to replace the entire thing rather than the hard drive ? Although I'd rather not if possible.

Does it make sense to try fixing the chkdisk error?
There isn't a lot you can do to fix a disk error. Drives self correct and chkdisk basically makes them aware. You could run the hard drive manufactures disk check tool from boot media if you wanted. I would not recommend spending money on this machine and reloading vista. Your much better off with the dell referb linked above in the long run.
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Very much appreciate the help and opinions, especially at a tough time for me (some medical stuff has me a bit "handicapped" and I just need a little more help than usual, so I appreciate the patience as well).

I do have Malwarebytes installed and nothing came back on the last scan run.

Video card was replaced within the last year, but if the life expectancy of the machine as a whole is dim, it would probably make sense to replace the entire thing rather than the hard drive ? Although I'd rather not if possible.

Does it make sense to try fixing the chkdisk error?
I would do the chkdsk it's part of basic troubleshooting. If you have a physical error it will tell you and if it's a soft error cross linked files it will fix them. It you see you're getting sector errors you know your HD is beginning to fail
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Computer screek shut off unexpectedly one day, then returned. A few days later, the computer won't boot up. Safe mode works, just not "regular".

Gateway FX541X (standard build)
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT

Locks at crcdisk.sys
Your system isn't that bad as it looks like you have a stock QuadCore . Do you have 4GB memory?
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Your system isn't that bad as it looks like you have a stock QuadCore . Do you have 4GB memory?
Stock RAM on that is either 1GB or 2 GB.

There's more to a CPU than the number of cores, for example the dual core i3-7100 in the refurb I posted gets nearly twice the passmark score of the C2D Q9300. Ultimately the OP's CPU is fairly respectable for a nearly 10 year old computer, but sometimes you have to recognize a sinking ship when you see one. Older computers also use a lot more electricity.

The thing you have to watch out for are some of the really low end new computers with processors so weak they're like buying a 10 year old computer.

Rarely can get a great deal on a new computer the moment an old one has issues, so if there's anything to be done to buy a few weeks there may be better deals, maybe an i5 based machine for around $350.

I'd suggest looking in the windows event log under system for an disk errors and checking a program like speedfan that can look at your S.M.A.R.T. data. If the OP doesn't have a good backup they should buy a hard drive and create one. Relatively few hard drives remain operational after 10 years of continuous use.
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looking for the most inexpensive fix for the machine in the original post - either to repair or perhaps replace. Woot has this one on sale today HP 260-A114 (https://computers.woot.com/offers..._dly_wobtn) any thoughts?

Still out on sick leave so trying to do it as reasonably priced as possible.
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