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Arlo Pro kit, 3 Cameras and Base Station at Costco Nov 24-27 2017 / Black Friday.

On 11/20/2017 - Costco dropped the price another $25
Cost before the popular $25 off 250 coupon: $374.99


Costco item: 1135146
$399.99 ( $100 instant savings from normal price of $499.99 )
[ depending on your state, you maybe taxed at $499.99 as Costco reduced prices = "instant rebates" per some state rules - and thus you get taxed for the pre-rebate amount ]

Online and in store
https://www.costco.com/Arlo-Pro-S...40335.html


Specifications
  • Cameras: 100% Wire-Free, indoor/outdoor cameras with night vision
  • Resolution: 720p
  • Local Storage: Connect a USB drive to the base station for local video backup
  • Cloud Storage: FREE rolling 7-day secure cloud recordings
  • Remote Viewing: Live and remote video streaming via free apps available for iOS, Android, Fire OS
  • Camera Connectivity: 2.4GHz 802.11n
  • Battery: Four (4) Rechargeable Batteries (each camera requires one rechargeable battery)
  • Audio: 2-Way Audio (speakers and microphone)
  • Motion Detection: Adjustable up to 23 feet
  • Image Sensor: Full color, CMOS, auto-adaptive white/black balance and exposure
  • Viewing Angle: 130° Field of View
  • Sensors: No
  • Mounting: Three (3) wall mounts, One (1) outdoor security mount
  • Night Vision: Yes; 850nm LED: Up to 25 feet
  • Indoor or Oudoor Use: Both (Indoor and outdoor)
  • Operating Temperature: -4° to 113°F (-20°C to 45°C)
  • Warranty: Parts: 1 year; Labor: 1 year

What's in the Box
  • (3) Wire-Free HD Cameras with Audio
  • (4) Rechargeable batteries
  • (1) Camera power adapter
  • (1) Camera power cable
  • (1) Base station with a built-in siren
  • (1) Ethernet cable
  • (3) Wall mounts
  • (7) Wall mount screws
  • (1) Outdoor security mount
  • (1) Outdoor security mount screw set
  • (1) Quick start guide
  • (2) Window decals

Arlo Pro compared to Arlo Pro 2, Arlo, Arlo Go - please see the attached image below
principle differences I noticed: Arlo Pro 2 has 1080p resolution, and when plugged into power the ability to record 24/7

Compare to JC Penny deal for Black Friday here ( 2 camera kit for $349.99 ):
https://slickdeals.net/f/10716476-jcpenney-black-friday-arlo-pro-wirefree-hd-security-2-camera-kit-for-349-99

Information for your consideration:

Arlo Pro cameras are 720p with a very wide FOV, resulting in very short ID distances.

Arlo Pro 2 has come out, and is 1080p resolution resulting in significantly better ID distance than the Arlo Pro ( which btw is worse than the original Arlo )

Note wire free systems like the Arlo / Arlo Pro are at best imperfect security cameras due to the compromises which have to help increase battery longevity.

Costco normally has a 3 camera kit for $499.99, and at times at $449.99. Their kits includes a couple of extras.


ID spec distance and associated area max covered calculations ( 100ppf+ ):

This is the theoretical max based on raw pixels from the horizontal resolution and the horizontal FOV. Calculations based on data provided in ads / spec sheets. Some vendors like to play games and list diagonal FOV instead of horizontal FOV as that number is bigger and not clarify that it is diagonal FOV.
Actual real world results will be decreased due to the quality of the camera ( glass vs plastic lens, compression quality, sw/firmware,... ), installation view, as well as environmental conditions ( low light, haze, fog, glare off snow, water rain,.. ).

Practical meaning: Place your cameras in such a manner that any suspect / subject you wish to potentially ID is within this ID spec distance, as well as in a placement which will give you a high likelihood of obtaining a good facial image ( mount camera 8 feet or less high ).

compare to:
Ring Video Doorbell 720p at 160 degrees: 4.08 feet { 23.23 sq feet covered }
Logitech Logi Circle HD Wireless Security Camera 720p at 135 degrees: 5.44 feet { 34.85 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro / Arlo Go 720p at 130 degress: 5.644 feet { 36.12 sq feet covered }
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[ list clipped short for the entire list as well as Arlo / Arlo Pro review info please see below ]

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Last Edited by mat2000 Yesterday at 11:43 AM
Arlo Pro operation:
The Arlo Pro, as well as the original Arlo - are designed to detect motion, trigger video capture ( 10-120 second clip depending on setup ), and save to the cloud. ( free cloud account for up to 5 cameras and 7 days rolling storage. )
You can also live view as well as initiate manual recordings.

How long do the batteries last?
Battery usage will depend on how often the camera triggers video clip captures, IR light use ( turns on when live viewing at night as well as during night time video capture ), how often you live view and record video.
You can expect to change out the battery 3-4x a year on average.

Does the Arlo Pro record 24/7?
No, the battery would quickly drain. The Arlo Pro 2 does have the option to record 24/7 provided you have it wired into power.

Does the Arlo Pro camera have local microSD card storage option?
No, however you can connect local USB storage to the Arlo Pro base station. Note while the Arlo base station has USB ports, they were never enabled in the station's software/firmware

How does the motion detection feature work on my Arlo cameras?
Arlo Wire-Free, Arlo Pro Wire-Free, Arlo Pro 2 Wire-Free, and Arlo Go cameras trigger when the infrared technology (PIR) detects an object that is warmer than the surrounding environment.
Arlo Q and Arlo Q Plus cameras analyze changes in video frames to trigger motion detection alerts and recordings.
https://kb.arlo.com/583/How-does-...lo-cameras

For those wanting to mount the camera on a window, Liz suggests the following: ( Thanks Liz )
Smart Security Suction Cup Wall Mount- Adjustable Indoor/Outdoor Suction Cup Mount for Arlo Cam and Other Compatible Models by Wasserstein (1 Pack, White)
Quote from the Liz View Post :
I researched this a bit and found that IR motion detection will NOT work through windows. More detailed discussion on that topic here:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/.../td-p/6778

I live in an apartment, so drilling holes is pretty much out of the question for me. I ordered one of these to use outside:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M628...HX2KDJ7BUS
Costco warranty on Arlo Pro kits:
Quote from neoshi View Post :
Ok, got it in writing, these are not part of the 90 day return policy limit. See attachment.
- Thanks Neoshi!
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=107604451&postcount=82

Securing the Arlo Pro camera:
The magnetic mounts are great for quick setup, however they also make it easy to remove the camera.
Given that to get a good ID image you will need to mount the cameras 6-8 feet high, and due to the 720p resolution and wide FOV within 5.64 feet of any subjects / suspects you wish to ID the cameras will typically have to be mounted within easy reach of people.
There is a whole discussion in the Arlo community about securing the Arlo / Arlo Pro
https://community.netgear.com/t5/...n/td-p/745

Perhaps the best option is to use a screws, security cable, and locktite ( I'll attach a pic )
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Please note the Arlo Pro 2 is out and has 1080p resolution and thus a longer ID distance.

ID spec distance and associated area max covered calculations ( 100ppf+ ):

This is the theoretical max based on raw pixels from the horizontal resolution and the horizontal FOV. Calculations based on data provided in ads / spec sheets. Some vendors like to play games and list diagonal FOV instead of horizontal FOV as that number is bigger and not clarify that it is diagonal FOV.
Actual real world results will be decreased due to the quality of the camera ( glass vs plastic lens, compression quality, sw/firmware,... ), installation view, as well as environmental conditions ( low light, haze, fog, glare off snow, water rain,.. ).

Practical meaning: Place your cameras in such a manner that any suspect / subject you wish to potentially ID is within this ID spec distance, as well as in a placement which will give you a high likelihood of obtaining a good facial image ( mount camera 8 feet or less high ).

compare to:
Ring Video Doorbell 720p at 160 degrees: 4.08 feet { 23.23 sq feet covered }
Logitech Logi Circle HD Wireless Security Camera 720p at 135 degrees: 5.44 feet { 34.85 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro / Arlo Go 720p at 130 degress: 5.644 feet { 36.12 sq feet covered }
Logitech Circle 2 (V-R0008) 1080p at 180 degrees: 6.11 feet { 58.6 sq feet covered }
ezviz Mini Trooper 720p wire free cam at 116° : 6.33 feet { 40.54 sq feet covered }
Foscam C1 720p at 115 degrees: 6.38 feet { 40 sq feet covered }
YI Home Camera 720p at 111 degrees: 6.61 feet { 42.3 sq feet covered }
Arlo 720p at 110 degrees: 6.67 feet { 42.68 sq feet covered }
Blink XT - 720p ( 1080p version is planned ) at 110 degrees: 6.67 feet { 42.68 sq feet covered }
Ring Video Doorbell 2 / Pro / Elite 1080p at 160 degrees: 6.88 feet { 66.06 sq feet covered }
Ring Spotlight Cam wired / battery / solar 1080p at 140 degrees: 7.86 feet { 75.44 sq feet covered }
Ring Floodlight Cam 1080p at 140 degrees: 7.86 feet { 75.44 sq feet covered }
D-Link DCS-933L 640x480 at 45.3: 8.0988 feet { 25.92 sq feet covered }
ezviz CV-200 Mini Plus 1080p 135° : 8.15 feet { 78.21 sq feet covered }
Arlo Q / Arlo Q plus 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro 2 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }

Nest Cam Outdoor / Indoor 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Samsung SmartCam SNH-V6431BN / V6414BN 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Xiaomi MIJIA Smart 1080P IP Camera at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Amcrest IPM-721S 720p IP camera at 85 deg H FOV as per chat w/Amcrest: 8.63 feet { 55.2 sq feet covered }
Zmodo "spoe is not compatible with poe" bullet cam 2.8mm 720p at 81 degrees: 9.06 feet {57.99 sq feet covered }
Ring Stick Up 720p at 80 degrees: 9.17 feet { 58.67 sq feet covered }
Canary Flex 1080p at 116 degrees: 9.488 feet { 91.08 sq feet covered }
YI Dome Camera 1080p HD 112°: 9.82 feet { 94.396 sq feet covered }
Foscam R2 1080p at 110 degrees: 10.00 feet { 95.94 sq feet covered }
Reolink Argus 1080p at 130 110°: 8.47 10.00 feet { 81.34 95.94 sq feet covered }
Amcrest ProHD 1080p IP2M-841 / IP2M-841B at 90 degrees: 12.23 feet { 117.41 sq feet covered }
Annke AU-I61DR0104#US1 Cube Camera 4mm 1080p at 85°: 12.95 feet { 124.33 sq feet covered }
Swann PRO-T852 BNC connectors 1080p 80°: 13.76 feet { 132.12 sq feet covered }

LaView 2MP dome camera (LV-PD50208) 2.8mm lens 1080p 98 degrees: 11.23 { 107.8 sq feet covered }
LaView 2MP bullet camera ( from kit LV-KNT91F84E2 ) 4mm lens 1080p at 83.6 degree: 13.16 feet { 126.28 sq feet covered }
LaView 2MP bullet camera (LV-PB932F4) 1080p 79 degree: 13.9 feet { 133.13 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP dome camera (LV-PD5040) 2.8mm lens 2688x1520 98 degrees: 15.72 { 211.23 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP Dome (LV-PD504028) 2688x1520 90 Degrees: 17.12 feet { 230.08 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP bullet camera (LV-PB3040W) 2688 x 1520 79 Degree:19.5 feet { 262.0 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP bullet camera (LV-PB3040W) 4mm lens 2688x1520 70 Degrees: 22.01 feet { 295.78 sq feet covered }

Qsee 3MP IP Bullet Camera (QTN8037B) 2048x1536 65°-70° ( using 70 degrees ): 16.77 feet { 171.7 sq feet covered }
Qsee 3MP IP WiFi Dome Camera (QCW3MP1D) 3.6mm 2304 x 1536 81°assume H FOV: 16.30 feet { 187.70 sq feet covered } ( using 2304 x 1536 on data sheet, Costco page shows 2048x1536 )
Qsee 4MP IP Bullet Cameras (QCN8026B) 3.6mm lens 2560 x 1440 84° : 17.47 feet { 223.61 sq feet covered }

Amcrest 4MP IP Bullet Camera (IP4M-1025E) 3.6mm lens 2688(H)x1520(V) 83°: 18.34 feet { 246.44 sq feet covered }

Hikvision DS-2CD2332-I 3MP EXIR Turret IP Cam 2048 x 1536 w/4mm lens 75.8° : 15.49 feet { 158.64 sq feet covered }

Dahua IPC-HDW4231EM-AS starlight fixed lens 1080p 1920x1080
w/2.8mm lens FOV H 110 degrees: 10 feet { area covered 95.94 sq feet covered }
w/3.6mm lens FOV H 87 degrees: 12.65 feet { 121.43 sq feet covered }
w/6mm lens FOV H 51 degrees: 21.58 feet { 207.16 sq feet covered }

Lorex 2MP / 1080p camera at 90 degrees: 12.23 feet { 117.4 sq feet covered }
Lorex 3MP camera at 75 degrees: 15.65 feet { 160.22 sq feet covered }
Lorex 2K / 4MP cameras at 83 degrees: 18.56 feet { 249.38 sq feet covered }
Lorex 2k / 4MP cameras 2688×1520 at 101 degrees ( like the bullet LKB343B or dome LKE343 in a lorex kit from costco online ): 17.12 feet { 258.2 sq feet covered }

Lorex LNB8005 / LNB8111B 4K (8MP) as well as Dahua IPC-HFW4830E-S 4K camera 4mm lens 88 degrees: 25.0 feet { 479.7 sq feet covered max }
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Thanks Matt, as usual VERY helpful and informative post! This is good deal for those of us already invested in the Arlo system that can't run wires. Others have pushed Lorex wired systems for the obvious advantages, but I can't do that in my environment.
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Thanks Matt, as usual VERY helpful and informative post! This is good deal for those of us already invested in the Arlo system that can't run wires. Others have pushed Lorex wired systems for the obvious advantages, but I can't do that in my environment.
Hi Mulox,

Completely understand about not being able to wire up a system, as well as completely understand about needing something.

It's too bad that in addition to the usual challenges to putting together a better wired security camera system that there are HOAs which make it difficult even for those who own their own homes to install systems.

Also, renters are put in a bind as the landowner can often not care about renters safety as long as the property is safe from damages and the rent checks come in.
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Arlo has garbage software. I would not recommend them.
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Also keep in mind that while facial ID is by far the most important requirement, my system serves many secondary uses that don't require that level of detail or distance. For example:

1. Amazon courier - had an incident where driver threw a package into driveway (similar to the way a newspaper boy throws paper) and box tumbled far. Didn't need to ID a face since his name/truck were tied to our order # when I reported him

2. Caught grass service company (weed service, fertilizer, etc.) several times not doing what we paid for. One instance they even billed us for service they didn't even perform (no show)!

3. Indoor cam in foyer to track coming/going of our teens

4. With indoor Q cams and Pro series, ability to speak with our kids

With those things considered, my home would be best covered by a hybrid system. I could get away with installing a single Lorex 4k wired cam to cover the driveway, and keep Arlo for the rest of the areas. Problem is a single cam system will probably be very expensive compared to a bundle.
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Also keep in mind that while facial ID is by far the most important requirement, my system serves many secondary uses that don't require that level of detail or distance. For example:

1. Amazon courier - had an incident where driver threw a package into driveway (similar to the way a newspaper boy throws paper) and box tumbled far. Didn't need to ID a face since his name/truck were tied to our order # when I reported him

2. Caught grass service company (weed service, fertilizer, etc.) several times not doing what we paid for. One instance they even billed us for service they didn't even perform (no show)!

3. Indoor cam in foyer to track coming/going of our teens

4. With indoor Q cams and Pro series, ability to speak with our kids

With those things considered, my home would be best covered by a hybrid system. I could get away with installing a single Lorex 4k wired cam to cover the driveway, and keep Arlo for the rest of the areas. Problem is a single cam system will probably be very expensive compared to a bundle.
Hi Mulox,

wow, that sucks about being billed for work not done.

Indeed I have found few products which cover well numerous different requirements.

At this time seems the best option is getting a couple of products.

For example I have been looking at getting a doorbell/intercom w/ cam to augment my now wired security camera system.
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We do have a Ring Plus/Pro that works well. I was going to augment w a Ring flood light cam but review are very mixed so was waiting to see if they might release a new version to address those issues.
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Wireless surveillance cameras just aren't yet where they need to be for me to invest in a system. Would I like to be able to? You bet. I'd like to have them around the outside of the house, even though we're in a really good neighborhood.

The primary problem for me is the poor resolution. For the cameras to be useful, you have to be able to ID individuals with a level of certainty that's credible for the police. Anything less than that is just for personal curiosity about what goes on around your home.

For me, that threshold is 3MP. I believe wireless systems will be there in another year. I can wait a year to get a system that will be viable for the long-term.
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I just got this few days back for 499-25 $ coupon can I ask Costco for price adjustment?
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Old 720p meh
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I love the convenience of wireless install but somewhat ironically it makes me concerned that if I put one outside that someone would steal it.
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Can I buy now and make price adjustment with Costco later?
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Can I buy now and make price adjustment with Costco later?
No. They always only return and buy, no exchanges at Costco.
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