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Okay, so what's the difference between the two? The description for the cheaper one has more features than the more expensive one, and according to the product page, the M7500 doesn't have wifi, but does have 3D. So other than the more expensive one not having wifi, what's the difference?
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Okay, so what's the difference between the two? The description for the cheaper one has more features than the more expensive one, and according to the product page, the M7500 doesn't have wifi, but does have 3D. So other than the more expensive one not having wifi, what's the difference?
Well we learned here:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10711740-samsung-ubd-m7500-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disc-player-109-free-shipping?v=1
That the Samsung Reps were WRONG and that Best Buy is incorrect in listing this as 3D Read YES at least as far as 3D Blu-rays.

I contacted Samsung Customer Service personally and they said the M7500 DOES have 3D Playback (I posted the transcript in that thread) but when people started to get there units two posted it does not do 3D Blu-ray playback and one posted excellent pictures showing the error you should receive when trying to play 3D Blu-ray discs on a non-3D Blu-ray capable player.
That means ALL THREE of Samsung's 2017 players m9500, m8500, and the M7500 do not do 3D Blu-ray playback.

Other differences the 2016 K8500 has Dual HDMI outputs the M8500 and M7500 do not.
Only the M9500 has Dual HDMI outputs for 2017 (one is HDMI audio only for legacy AVR/receivers not 4K Compliant as with other 4K UHD players with two HDMI outputs - one is just audio).
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When I looked back at my notes I saw this is a coin battery powered remote for the K8500 I dislike that (although if you could use a replacement cheap ebay/amazon Samsung generic remote that could be dealt with).
I gave this another look but really it seems like quality of 4K UHD Blu-ray playback from these 2016 first year players is not as good as other 2017 models from (Sony, LG, or even Samsung - though Samsung is missing the 3D Blu-ray Playback altogether in 2017).
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Well we learned here:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10711740-samsung-ubd-m7500-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disc-player-109-free-shipping?v=1

I gave this another look but really it seems like player from 2016 is not as good as other 2017 models.
Followed you up to this point........ but not following the conclusion that the 2017 models are better since they don't seem to support 3D playback?
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Followed you up to this point........ but not following the conclusion that the 2017 models are better since they don't seem to support 3D playback?
Lack of clarity on my part. I had not slept at all when I wrote that lots of errors and spelling/grammar mistakes.
I didn't mean that the 2017 Samsung players are better (because they lack 3D Blu-ray Playback) what I meant was that 2017 UHD Players seem to be displaying better quality 4K UHD pictures than those from the 2016 Samsung Blu-ray players from Samsung and Philips.

The Sony UBP-X800 which is also hitting the $150 price point (along with the LG UP970 - though the LG recently went down to $129 from Fry's on Monday and was briefly available even for shipping - LINK: https://slickdeals.net/f/10799287-lg-up970-uhd-hdr-4k-blu-ray-player-129-frys-w-promo-code-free-shipping-pick-up?v=1). Anyway the Sony UBP-X800 is praised not only for it's build quality (solid sturdy metal) but also for the most important thing how well it renders the audio & visual. It does do 3D Blu-ray playback.

My hang ups are personal when it comes to Sony players: one is no optical audio output for legacy receivers or soundbars; not an issue today for me because it has a second HDMI audio port for AVRs that have HDMI - but down the road as an older legacy product moved to a different room it could be a problem (trying to think ahead a few years). Plus I have had bad personal experiences with TWO Sony Blu-ray players and Sony being extremely defensive and unhelpful when not paying a steep $$$ cost for most to get the problem corrected. The problem(s) back then became so wide spread that Sony began deleting posts on their forums of people that got the invalid error after doing a firmware upgrade and were complaining or asking for help. Those not in warranty were left to fend for themselves, with NO admission that the firmware was ever to blame even when one event immediately preceded the problems. There was also no ability to re-flash or roll back the problem firmware so it left a section of owners without an option unless the players functioned well enough an a new firmware was released but those dried up pretty quickly as well. That left a really bad taste in my mouth when the only remedy for some that the firmware flash failure BRICKED their Blu-ray players was to pay $150 + shipping to Laredo Tx for units to be reflashed (which was more than a new player). Mad Now a days at least most CC's offer 1 and Citibank offers 2 additional years of warranty protection so that's likely something I just need to let go of.

The other Sony Blu-ray problem I have was PRE-Cinavia era Blu-ray player exhibiting very similar errors to what would later become Cinavia when I attempted to play back burned DVDs that no other player has a problem playing the Sony would suddenly stop playback every time on a burned disc with no on screen error. They could Would not explain it or fix it...

So with all that said, the LG UP970 while also having Dual HDMI output, 3D Blu-ray Playback, + optical audio may not ultimately play 4K UHD as well as the Sony. I am having a hard time deciding between the two. We have an LG OLED so that is another small pull towards the LG UP970 and there seems to be a LOOMING question of is the DELAY in re-releasing the Dolby Vision firmware upgrade to the UP970 because processor speed related?? As in is it just not a beefy enough processor to deal with the far more demanding Dolby Vision vs HDR10? But that is another reason for wanting the LG - the assumption that the LG will get a GOOD working version of Dolby Vision. I am tempted to wait until 2018 as things will be improved performance wise, but that may be at the cost/loss of the Second HDMI port which I need/want unless I want to repeat another AVR shopping process.

Those are what I had in mind when I was referring to the 2016 Samsung not being as good as the 2017 models. The Samsung M9500 (not sure about the M8500 vs K8500) seems to give a better picture quality in 4K UHD playback than the 2016 K8500 as well but again the lack of 3D Playback and my not wanting to reward Samsung for this prevents me from considering it, even though 4K UHD playback seems to put it in the list of contenders if 3D Blu-ray playback is not important and you want a Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray player to go with a Samsung TV etc. My personal preference for PQ would be Sony over the Samsung M9500 anyway but I'm not sure about M9500 vs UP970.
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Lack of clarity on my part. I had not slept at all when I wrote that lots of errors and spelling/grammar mistakes.
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Thanks for the clarification....... I already have the K8500 but if I were buying now it would be a hard choice. 3D playback is important to me; but so is 4k picture quality.

It's quite depressing that none of the manufacturers seem to quite get it right and all have their quirks/issues for the $100-$200 players.
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