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So I've got a person locally that has a m506dh Enterprise printer for sale for 300 bucks. I'm trying to figure out whether to jump on something like that versus some home/personal $50-100 mono laser printer.

It seems to me that the cost per page (toner) is lower on the Enterprise model, it'll store more pages, and I'd like to think it would have other advantages.

So I've asked a few questions here in printer deal threads and also just called HP support for their opinion on the matter.

I was surprised for the agent to state that the Enterprise class is expected to last maybe 7-8 years and a home/personal printer would be expected to last 10 years.

Does that make sense? I was thinking the opposite was the case. I'm leaning more towards a personal Brother printer if that's the case, assuming the toner is cheaper and it'll last about as long.

Network printing and mobile printing would be nice options. I appreciate any sense of direction here. I don't print a great deal but I haven't been a fan of buying expensive inkjet cartridges when they run out. It's like buying another printer again.... that's why I'm thinking go mono laser.

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There was a deal recently on the M506dh from Macmall where you bought them for $300 each plus a bit of tax and shipping. Then there was a rebate for recycling any old working printer for $150 or more. So this netted this printer out for $150. You can see the thread here https://slickdeals.net/f/10538252-out-of-stock-hp-inc-laserjet-enterprise-m506dh-printer-299-99-or-149-99-or-less-ar-free-shipping-save-1-350?v=1&src=SiteSearch I would not consider the M506dh a good deal at $300 given the recent promotion. I would bet you your local seller is doubling his money. Talk him down if you go that route.

I bought two for my business and sent them old HP LaserJet4 that worked but not super well or not with the current software package we run. Mine are sitting in storage currently and I will deploy them when we decide to move off our old but reliable and super cheap price per page printers.

As for a home decision I think most of your decision comes down to volume. At high print volumes probably over a few thousand pages a month the HP Enterprise makes more sense, it's built to handle the volume, it's faster, and holds more paper. There is some 3rd party toner support but not much. I expect this to increase over time.

However most home users print very little, and that's where the $50 duplex capable brother makes the most sense to me. small up front cost, networking is built in, 3rd party toner is available and pretty cheap. Price per page is still not much but most home users just don't have the volume needed to make the enterprise printer work at $300, at $150 it's a bit different story but still overkill. Toner capacities are very different between the two is one thing to note but this usually isn't a big issue.

So my vote is at $300 the m506dh is still a good price for a business with volume but for the home user with a much smaller annual volume they are better off with the $50 Brother on sale and 3rd party toner.
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Go with something smaller, lighter, and less complex. Enterprise class printers have a lot of fancy extras that you just don't need at home. For example, does it really matter that "it'll store more pages"? That's handy if you have 40-50 people that use the printer heavily and perhaps print sensitive documents that shouldn't be left laying on the printer because the user got a phone call right as they clicked print. It will save their pages on an internal drive until the user is actually standing at the printer. The user then logs in via a touch screen on the printer and starts their print job. I don't see that much need for that at home.

The 45 Pages Per Minute print speed is awesome if you're printing a book, but if you're just printing a shopping list then any laser printer will be done before you can reach over to grab the page.

Enterprise class printers are also built with beefier mechanical parts so that they can survive printing 50,000 to 100,000 pages per month. This makes them heavy, but the rubber drive rollers inside still dry out over time and start causing paper jams. I picked up my Brother HL-2270DW for $55 four or five years ago. In that time it shows that it has printed 4,236 pages. I've replace the toner cartridge twice. Paid $10 each. That's pretty cheap printing. Smilie
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Which HP all in one printer is the best for office?
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Which HP all in one printer is the best for office?
Office What?

a Home Office?

a Work Office?

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Thanks everybody for the responses. Appreciate the info about the rubber parts going bad over time.
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If you go to an office supply store like Office Depot, Staples, etc check and see which printers they use for their own printing.

Guess what? It isn't a printer they sell. Why? Because none of the printers they sell are economical and robust enough for a business environment.

Enterprise edition printers are pretty good, but the really economically sound printers are sold at your local business copier stores. Kyocera (Best printer bang for your buck out there.), Minolta, Xerox, etc.

These aren't casual everyday printers in their upfront costs, unless you catch a killer deal on a printer coming off lease, but their cost per page will pay for the higher upfront costs many times over. Depending upon how many pages you print per year, those savings can pay for the cost of the printer in the first year. We're talking the difference between 1-2 cents per page compared to 25 cents to a dollar+ per page!

Now, there is a HUGE difference between what you and I think of as a page, and what printer manufacturers think of as a "page". When you see a 'cost per page' listed, it is based upon one page of double spaced text. When you combine all of that ink/toner into one solid block, it is approximately the size of a business card. An 8x10 photograph is actually more than 10 pages of ink!

So when you look at a real business class printer that does color laser prints at 10 cents per page compared to a cheap all-in-one inkjet that costs at least 1 dollar per page printing an 8x10 color photo, you can see how quickly the savings can add up.

Printer manufacturers can easily sell office supply store level printers at a loss, because they are making all of their money on the back end selling you ink and toner. This model is reversed for true business class printers. You pay more up front, and then spend WAY less on supplies and parts over time.

Your slickest printer deals will always be grabbing a business class printer coming off lease that has been refurbished by the copier store that leased it. You really cut your upfront costs while still retaining the dirt cheap printer supplies and parts costs.
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INMNSHO, All current production HP printers are built to a price-point and have limited lifespans. They will die slowly and painfully.
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I think what your research is telling you is that a home printer will last longer than an enterprise or office version because a home printer prints a whole lot less pages than an office version that is used daily to print hundreds of pages. You might print one or two pages a day at home, whereas in the office it would be used by several people and print 100 pages per day, or more.

I would recommend that you get a printer that uses a toner cartridge if all you print is black. Get an HP or a name brand and just go with it. Yes, toner replacements seem expensive, but, you don't have to worry about that 20 or 30 dollar ink drying up and not working because you've had it in the printer for 6 months and only printed 15 pages and all of a sudden at tax time it's not working. Same recommendation, actually, if you want color. Yes, the toner is expensive, but it doesn't dry up like ink and will last for years at a page or two printed here and there. It just keeps working.
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