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Stanley 12-136 No. 4 Smoothing Bench Plane $94.99

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The #4 is probably the first hand plane you should have, versatile.
It's no Lee Valley or Lie Nielsen, but it's half the price.
$123 at Home Depot for comparison and lowest price in years on Amazon.
Home Depot matched Amazon's price and has a $10 off of $50 offer bringing price to $94.99.
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-12...B002B56CUO

https://www.homedepot.com/p/No-4-.../203713965
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Don't buy a new one the quality is pretty poor. Buy a used one off eBay for 30-50 bud and replace the blade with a new blade from Lee valley. Just make sure the bootom is flat that's really important
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Just pony up and get a nicer one. You'll be disappointed you didn't.
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I wish I was cool enough to use this thing.
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Made in Mexico? ...Sigh
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Don't buy a new one the quality is pretty poor. Buy a used one off eBay for 30-50 bud and replace the blade with a new blade from Lee valley. Just make sure the bootom is flat that's really important
i agree, but something tells me if someone is still using manual tools they would know better.

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I wish I was cool enough to use this thing.
Would you feel plane ridiculous?
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Seriously, talk about a tool that's pretty much designed for one specific purpose/need. I finally dusted off my $30 Stanley planer this weekend when making a farmhouse table after 4 years of not using it. Having one of these definitely would've cut my 30 minutes down to 15 tops :-).
My no 4 touches every piece of wood that goes through my shop. That's more than the cabinet saw, band saw, or the miter saw. A plane (not "planer") is very useful when you know how to use it. If you don't, it's probably not much to you.

I agree with the other poster. Save your money on this and get a used one from eBay. Just make sure it's not cracked. After a little work/cleanup, you'll be glad you did not buy this one.
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My no 4 touches every piece of wood that goes through my shop. That's more than the cabinet saw, band saw, or the miter saw. A plane (not "planer") is very useful when you know how to use it. If you don't, it's probably not much to you.

I agree with the other poster. Save your money on this and get a used one from eBay. Just make sure it's not cracked. After a little work/cleanup, you'll be glad you did not buy this one.
Would you mind linking to ones from eBay you'd buy yourself? Would love to get one but don't know what to look for...
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You really want a posting with lots of pictures showing sides, bottom, blade, cap iron. Avoid deep pitting and anything with cracks in the metal. As a first plane, you also want to get one with a good rear handle (tote) and front knob. You can fix a broken tote, but you probably don't want to tackle that with a first plane. This one looks to be from 1948-1961 and would make a good user: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Stanl...Sw3WxaBFRq

I use this reference when trying to date planes. I personally avoid type 17 (wwii era) because they didn't have metal depth adjusters due to war time efforts.

Reference: http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/...wchart.php


Finally, with a used plane on eBay, expect it to need some work. (Believe it or not, it'll probably need less work than the new Stanley is this deal). If you don't have a diamond plate or stone, get some sandpaper and put on a piece of glass to flatten the sole, blade back, and sharpen. You don't want to do it that way long term because it'll actually be more expensive, but it's a good way to start.


Disclaimer: Buy enough on eBay you'll eventually get a piece of crap. If you don't feel good about something, don't bid. I have zero listings on eBay right now and do not stand to benefit from posting this auction. It's just an example. Nor am I affiliated with the reference website
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You really want a posting with lots of pictures showing sides, bottom, blade, cap iron. Avoid deep pitting and anything with cracks in the metal. As a first plane, you also want to get one with a good rear handle (tote) and front knob. You can fix a broken tote, but you probably don't want to tackle that with a first plane. This one looks to be from 1948-1961 and would make a good user: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Stanl...Sw3WxaBFRq

I use this reference when trying to date planes. I personally avoid type 17 (wwii era) because they didn't have metal depth adjusters due to war time efforts.

Reference: http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/...wchart.php


Finally, with a used plane on eBay, expect it to need some work. (Believe it or not, it'll probably need less work than the new Stanley is this deal). If you don't have a diamond plate or stone, get some sandpaper and put on a piece of glass to flatten the sole, blade back, and sharpen. You don't want to do it that way long term because it'll actually be more expensive, but it's a good way to start.


Disclaimer: Buy enough on eBay you'll eventually get a piece of crap. If you don't feel good about something, don't bid. I have zero listings on eBay right now and do not stand to benefit from posting this auction. It's just an example. Nor am I affiliated with the reference website
Are you a lawyer when you're not working with wood? ;-)
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You would be better off spending a few bucks more on one from Woodcraft if you want brand new. Otherwise get yourself an old Stanley from 100 years ago. https://www.woodcraft.com/product...d-plane-v3
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I used to buy old hand planes from eBay and refurbish them. The old hand planes are generally much higher quality than modern offerings at the DIY/journeyman grade level. These were tools crafted at a time when power tools either weren't common or available at all. So those old hand tools had to be well made and functional. Ditto for hand saws and wood chisels of that era.

Rehabbing those old planes primarily consisted of using electrolysis to remove the rust and then Japanese water stones to restore the iron to a razor edge. I found it a very satisfying hobby, but many won't want to go to that kind of trouble.

Props to OP for referencing Lie Nielsen and Lee Valley (the Veritas brand, actually) as two of the very few modern manufacturers of hand tools that truly care about quality.

Hard to explain to the uninitiated what a sublime joy a good quality, finely-tuned hand plane is to use. If you're a knife or wrist watch aficionado, or know the joy of writing with a really nice ink pen, it's a little like that.

FYI: stay far, far away from the Buck brand of modern hand planes. The best I can say about them is they make excellent door stops.
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