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Good Deal, $500 on Amazon. Recent firmware upgrades gives it both Chromecast Built In, and Play-Fi built in.

I see Newegg on eBay also has the similar X-HM76 also for $197 [ebay.com] (also $500 on Amazon) the 76 has somewhat less power but comes with 2 bookshelf type speakers.

Pioneer Specs/Features for the XC-HM86 [pioneerelectronics.com]

Pioneer Specs/Features for the X-HM76 [pioneerelectronics.com]

The ONLY difference between the specifications/features is slightly higher power rating in the 86 than the 76 (25 WPC at .02% compared to 20 WPC on the 76, and 65 WPC at 10% distortion compared to 50WPC). They weigh the same and come with the same remote and streaming features (including firmware updates)...so it is possible they are actually the same receiver inside, but that you get speakers with the 76 and higher specs listed for the 86.

Both good deals.
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What is this used for?
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Can I use this to expand the reach of my 2 zone receiver to additional zones? TIA
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Good deal! I might buy one for my dad. Gotta say though, that 10% THD @65W is pretty scary. lol
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no way this thing is worth 500 msrp if you use retail to judge how good of a deal something is.
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What is this used for?
What it is used for is changing...because they keep releasing new firmware for it, the most recent in October, which is one thing that makes it pretty slick.

Basically:
1. You hook 2 standard un-powered speakers to it and it works like a stereo receiver/amp with a built in CD player and FM radio. It also has a connection for a powered subwoofer, so you can make a 2 speaker plus 1 subwoofer system. (Note: the 76 version I referenced below comes with 2 speakers).

2. What makes it different/ very cool is that it has networking audio built in, that is compatible with several different systems:

1. Chromecast Audio was just added this month - That means you can cast the music from any Android Phone/Tablet including streaming services like Tidal, Spotify, Pandora. If you get more receivers like this, or get Chromecast audio devices ($35) you can have a pretty fancy multi-room system. You can voice control the streaming with a Google Home device if you have one.

2. Play-Fi Audio, a system like Chromecast but from DTS instead of Google, was added 2 months ago. Play-Fi is used by several big brands like Polk/Definitive, Klipsch etc. Play-fi just announced a partnership with Amazon for Echo voice control, it is not clear if this Pioneer can be voice controlled yet, but it could be.

3. It has Bluetooth for connection to any phone, as well as AirPlay (for playing from Apple Devices, and Wi-Fi DNLA (for playing from PCs). So, if your existing audio system has any of these, you can hook up. If not, just get a chromecast audio to hook to your existing system. It has a digital optical input (hooks to a TV etc). A USB input (that it says can hook directly to USB flash or hard drives to play stored music). Also, a normal analog stereo input that will hook to anything with a headphone out jack.

4. It has a graphical color display that on some sources will show data and album art and see what you are doing if you are not driving it with a phone/tablet, and a wireless remote.

NOTE: this is a stereo (2 channel) amp and is not surround sound. It also is not super powerful (realistically, 25 watts per channel). SO, you have to use it in a medium/small room or get speakers (like Klipsch) that are very efficient...or preferably, just get a powered sub to play all of the power hungry bass notes. It is fine for me cause I do not listen super loud and live in an apartment.

Most heavy discounts like this (regularly $500 everywhere, now $200) are on older discontinued obsolete stuff. At the moment, this is pretty up to date.
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no way this thing is worth 500 msrp if you use retail to judge how good of a deal something is.
$500 is what everyone else sells it for. So, it is not a fake MSRP. Whether you think it is worth it or not is another question.

I think for what it does (see my previous post), $500 makes sense. However, if they were flying out the door at $500, then Pioneer would not have shipped a bunch out to NewEgg to sell for $200. SO, its a deal if it does what you want, cause I do not know of anything else for $200 that does it. If you want lots of watts and surround sound...it is definitely not worth it.
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What it is used for is changing...because they keep releasing new firmware for it, the most recent in October, which is one thing that makes it pretty slick.
Do you know if it's possible to output the CD player on this unit to another receiver with FlareConnect?
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Do you know if it's possible to output the CD player on this unit to another receiver with FlareConnect?
I don't know...Flare Connect was just announced a couple of weeks ago. My guess is it can't now, but may next year.

The press release is HERE. [whathifi.com]

It says the ability to stream CD players and Turntables to other Flare Connect compatible receivers will be added in 2018....but of course, whether this model will get that upgrade or when/if it will happen, I don't know.
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I'm going to put this on my nightstand and plug in my large Beats headphones to it. Beats the heck out of listening only from an iphone.
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EDIT: The XC-HM86 model of the OP has been in and out of stock. However:

The X-HM76 model also $197 ($499 everywhere else) is still availableHERE [ebay.com].

The X-HM76 has exactly the same features as the XC-HM86 but it comes with speakers along with the amp.

The only difference between the 2 amps that the HM76 is rated at somewhat lower watt output (the info links are below).

I strongly suspect that they are really exactly the same amp....they weigh exactly the same. It is usually cheaper for a manufacturer to make them all the same except for the model number and then just downspec one of them for marketing reasons.... So, perhaps a better a deal because of the speakers.
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Mine just arrived...very fast.

Some Quick Notes On Setup:

1. 1st thing you do is connect to ethernet or Wi-Fi. Once done mine updated its firmware through the internet, but this is not the very latest version. For the most recent you need to go to the Pioneer product page and download the firmware and upgrade using a USB drive. Keying in your SSID and password is a pain with the remote, thankfully does not have to be done often.

2. There are too many ways to control this and get streaming music. Pioneer has about 6 apps of their own and some do not work. 2 Pioneer apps that work: the "Pioneer Remote App" and the "Pioneer MUSIC Control App" (NOT the Pioneer Control App, which does not work.) Also the Google Home App works, as well as the Pandora and Spotify apps work directly.


The Pioneer "MUSIC Control App" seems the best as overall control. It is really a "Play-Fi" app, pretty polished, and lets you play Amazon Prime music as well as all of the streaming services and music from your home computers. With all of these options you probably just pick one and stick with it. Theoretically you can control the music by voice if you have a Google Home device or an Amazon Echo in the room, but I have not tried that yet.

Sounds great, clean, pretty powerful on my not efficient bookshelf speakers. Very pleased.
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Anyone get cancel order? I have received from Newegg a cancel order, what i should do?
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$500 is what everyone else sells it for. So, it is not a fake MSRP. Whether you think it is worth it or not is another question.

I think for what it does (see my previous post), $500 makes sense. However, if they were flying out the door at $500, then Pioneer would not have shipped a bunch out to NewEgg to sell for $200. SO, its a deal if it does what you want, cause I do not know of anything else for $200 that does it. If you want lots of watts and surround sound...it is definitely not worth it.
Actually it has been sitting at $400 on most sites including Best Buy since its debut last fall, prices on the Pioneer website are usually inflated. New Egg now has it back in stock, I have been thinking of buying this but not sure it will output the sound I need and you are fully dependent on Pioneer continuing to keep the internet apps updated, at least to work with the screen, the screen is nice, I wish more receivers would offer this over the small garbage read out screens that most employ.

New Egg's return policy makes me not pull the trigger, 15 percent restocking fee, Best Buy it is out of stock so no chance to match it.

I hate using a smartphone or tablet that 99 percent of these network receivers require for full functionality. Now if they ever made their Pioneer remote app available on a Roku or Apple TV and you could control all streaming services on your tv screen, well that would make things easier.
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