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difference between the ac2200 and the ac3000?
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Pretty sure the higher number is more range. So for bigger house.

I just bought the 3000 from Costco. With coupon it's 360 shipped . I'm ok paying an extra 60 bucks
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OP forgot to add the link. Can someone please add?
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OP forgot to add the link. Can someone please add?
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OP should note this is the RBK44 which includes the router and 3 satellites. Seems like a very good deal. And don't forget 15% off with trade in of old WiFi equipment.
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difference between the ac2200 and the ac3000?
6 antennas vs 4 antenna. Practically I don't see speed issues. I am thinking of buying and then applying coupon later in store via return and rebuy.
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debating this vs the costco 3 pack ac3000, not sure it makes much of a difference
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I've been sitting on this deal since last night - I figured somebody would had posted it by now, and was going to do this morning - had other things come up - and was getting ready to do it now. I'm glad somebody beat me to it and got it out there. Repped.

Here is the link to the product at Best Buy. [bestbuy.com]

This is the new Orbi RBK44-100NAS offering, and there is very little information out there about this model, yet, as far as reviews or benchmarking goes.

If you have a recycle coupon [bestbuy.com] (can't use it for online purchase), use it to sweeten this deal. I did, and my final price came to $255.01 ('savings of $316.25'). I will attach receipt. The price would had been a little lower, but I only found one store in the area and it was across the state line where the tax is higher.

As an FYI, Best Buy also has it for the $274.99 via its eBay store. [ebay.com]

So, this is a new pack that includes the newer RBS20 satellite models. The router is the RBR40 that is in the other AC2200 packages. I will post links to the product spec sheets at the end. If you can find one in-store, and are in the need, grab it. Most stores do not carry this yet, and if they do, it is at the full $549 price.

This kit is marketed for 8,000sq. ft. coverage. The satellites are slightly smaller than the router/satellite combos in the other offerings. The main difference in the RBS20 satellites (besides a slightly lower power consumption) is the amount of Flash storage provided. The routers and equivalent satellites have 4GB Flash and 512MB RAM. The satellites in this package have only 256MB Flash, still with 512MB RAM.

The RBS20 satellites were just approved by the FCC in late September, so definitely a different product, and we don't know what is under the hood completely, so the lowering of the Flash memory might be a moot point if efficiencies have been increased elsewhere. The coverage is still the same per satellite (2,000sq. ft. for the AC2200 packages that don't have the smaller plugin satellites).

For the satellites alone, this package is worth the cost, especially if you already have an Orbi system and are looking to extend your coverage. You can use/sell/give away the RBR40 router. Recouping some cost there will also make this an even better deal for current Orbi owners.

You can add all of these satellites onto an existing system. I currently have five satellites on my property (will attach pic), even though Netgear will not officially state that you can have more than 3. I understand, they have to draw the support line somewhere, in relation to the hardware and functionality they are comfortable with.

The main difference between the AC3000 and AC2200 models are the total speed/backaul, and 6-antennas vs 4-antennas (this is why the AC3000 models have a little more coverage per device and speed). The nice thing about Orbi is that you can mix-and-match, keep that in mind, as some of the single AC3000 routers have been on clearance, and eventually one can easily expand or upgrade the wireless system to his/her liking.

If you are not performing large data transfers over wireless frequently and/or do not have 1Gbps Internet service, then the premium for AC3000 is probably unnecessary. The AC2200 systems will get you close to the 1Gbps speed. Regardless, the majority of users will never notice a difference in speed, between the two systems if they had a chance to compare, and most would prefer great coverage, low-to-no dead zones, better speed closer to what they are paying for with the ISP (assuming the device is in good shape overall), and an easier-to-swallow price.

I have not checked to see if the RBR40 router, that comes with this package, is a newer revision of the RBR40 router that has been out since the Spring. There supposedly have been some minor hardware revisions, so it could have better performance in a spec or two (CPU possible), but otherwise the numbers are the same.


Orbi WiFi System (RBK44) AC2200 product page
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Orbi WiFi System (RBK44) AC2200 Data Sheet [netgear.com]

I also want to point out that there have been some benchmarks that do show the AC2200 model outperforms the AC3000 in some aspects, and some areas are near identical: SmallNetBuilder [smallnetbuilder.com]
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I've been sitting on this deal since last night - I figured somebody would had posted it by now, and was going to do this morning - had other things come up - and was getting ready to do it now. I'm glad somebody beat me to it and got it out there. Repped.

Here is the link to the product at Best Buy. [bestbuy.com]

This is the new Orbi RBK44-100NAS offering, and there is very little information out there about this model, yet, as far as reviews or benchmarking goes.

If you have a recycle coupon [bestbuy.com] (can't use it for online purchase), use it to sweeten this deal. I did, and my final price came to $255.01 ('savings of $316.25'). I will attach receipt. The price would had been a little lower, but I only found one store in the area and it was across the state line where the tax is higher.

As an FYI, Best Buy also has it for the $274.99 via its eBay store. [ebay.com]

So, this is a new pack that includes the newer RBS20 satellite models. The router is the RBR40 that is in the other AC2200 packages. I will post links to the product spec sheets at the end. If you can find one in-store, and are in the need, grab it. Most stores do not carry this yet, and if they do, it is at the full $549 price.

This kit is marketed for 8,000sq. ft. coverage. The satellites are slightly smaller than the router/satellite combos in the other offerings. The main difference in the RBS20 satellites (besides a slightly lower power consumption) is the amount of Flash storage provided. The routers and equivalent satellites have 4GB Flash and 512MB RAM. The satellites in this package have only 256MB Flash, still with 512MB RAM.

The RBS20 satellites were just approved by the FCC in late September, so definitely a different product, and we don't know what is under the hood completely, so the lowering of the Flash memory might be a moot point if efficiencies have been increased elsewhere. The coverage is still the same per satellite (2,000sq. ft. for the AC2200 packages that don't have the smaller plugin satellites).

For the satellites alone, this package is worth the cost, especially if you already have an Orbi system and are looking to extend your coverage. You can use/sell/give away the RBR40 router. Recouping some cost there will also make this an even better deal for current Orbi owners.

You can add all of these satellites onto an existing system. I currently have five satellites on my property (will attach pic), even though Netgear will not officially state that you can have more than 3. I understand, they have to draw the support line somewhere, in relation to the hardware and functionality they are comfortable with.

The main difference between the AC3000 and AC2200 models are the total speed/backaul, and 6-antennas vs 4-antennas (this is why the AC3000 models have a little more coverage per device and speed). The nice thing about Orbi is that you can mix-and-match, keep that in mind, as some of the single AC3000 routers have been on clearance, and eventually one can easily expand or upgrade the wireless system to his/her liking.

If you are not performing large data transfers over wireless frequently and/or do not have 1Gbps Internet service, then the premium for AC3000 is probably unnecessary. The AC2200 systems will get you close to the 1Gbps speed. Regardless, the majority of users will never notice a difference in speed, between the two systems if they had a chance to compare, and most would prefer great coverage, low-to-no dead zones, better speed closer to what they are paying for with the ISP (assuming the device is in good shape overall), and an easier-to-swallow price.

I have not checked to see if the RBR40 router, that comes with this package, is a newer revision of the RBR40 router that has been out since the Spring. There supposedly have been some minor hardware revisions, so it could have better performance in a spec or two (CPU possible), but otherwise the numbers are the same.


Orbi WiFi System (RBK44) AC2200 product page
[netgear.com]

Orbi WiFi System (RBK44) AC2200 Data Sheet [netgear.com]

I also want to point out that there have been some benchmarks that do show the AC2200 model outperforms the AC3000 in some aspects, and some areas are near identical: SmallNetBuilder [smallnetbuilder.com]
Thanks for the detailed info. I decided to try this out even though im already using a Unifi AP with 2 more APs uplinked to the main AP. I will compare the performance and coverage between the two indoors and outdoor coverage. I wasnt planning on buying it but when i was browsing bestbuy I saw that the price was just $274 and it said 8000 sq ft coverage. If this is true then $274 is a steal for the price. I actually thought it is a price mistake

Amazom has it now for the same price as well
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Thanks for the detailed info. I decided to try this out even thought im already uaing a Unifi AP with 2 more APs uplinked to the main AP. I will compare the performance and coverage between the two indoors and outdoor coverage. I wasnt planning on buying it but when i was browsing bestbuy I saw that the price was just $274 and it said 8000 sq ft coverage. If this is true then $274 is a steal for the price. I actually thought it is a price mistake

Amazom has it now for the same price as well
It really is a steal at that price.

When I️ first came across it, I️ for sure thought it was a pricing mistake, I️ wanted to jump on it quick and pick one up in-store to use with a coupon (took two old routers in).

There also is an RBR20 router that was FCC'd approved at the same time as the satellites, but is unreleased. Perhaps Netgear is trying to (physically) slim down its hardware, but I️ rather like the current sizes. They look great and blend in with most decor and there are mounts available if you want to put one on a wall.

The dedicated 5Ghz backhaul is where this thing shines, and when they finally release the firmware for an Ethernet backhaul option, that will be even better for some locations.

Good to know about Amazon. They must had just dropped it, as it was still full price a short while ago.
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It really is a steal at that price.

When I️ first came across it, I️ for sure thought it was a pricing mistake, I️ wanted to jump on it quick and pick one up in-store to use with a coupon (took two old routers in).

There also is an RBR20 router that was FCC'd approved at the same time as the satellites, but is unreleased. Perhaps Netgear is trying to (physically) slim down its hardware, but I️ rather like the current sizes. They look great and blend in with most decor and there are mounts available if you want to put one on a wall.

The dedicated 5Ghz backhaul is where this thing shines, and when they finally release the firmware for an Ethernet backhaul option, that will be even better for some locations.

Good to know about Amazon. They must had just dropped it, as it was still full price a short while ago.
I just ordered the 274 deal from Amazon. I have the ac3000 3 pack from Costco coming in. That was 349 with coupon. In your opinion which is the better deal? I live in a 3000 sq foot home. I have 100/100 internet via fios.
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I just ordered the 274 deal from Amazon. I have the ac3000 3 pack from Costco coming in. That was 349 with coupon. In your opinion which is the better deal? I live in a 3000 sq foot home. I have 100/100 internet via fios.
That's a good question. You honestly can't go wrong with either. The Costco deal is incredible for all AC3000 devices.

I will say that either system is going to meet your coverage needs, and probably speed, as well. You only have (I say 'only' with a grin) 100/100Mbps - that's fast. The AC2200 will handle that easily, as its speed/backhaul is 866Mbps.

Keep in mind that the coverage that is marketed is likely a number that you will not actually get. In some cases, it might be dramatically lower due to the structure and other environmental variables. With that said, both should be fine, but you'll have more overhead with the Amazon deal.

If you didn't have to pay tax on Amazon, definitely the better deal right now. If you did pay tax, I would still say it has the edge, as you have one more satellite to help with coverage on your property.

If you had and used the $25 off $250 coupon from Costco, then it might swing back to the AC3000. I was looking in to doing the same thing and getting that set from Costco (I have that coupon) until this gem of a deal popped up - and a completely brand new product/hardware to boot (the RBS20 satellites), so I would also expect improvements under the hood. So far, so good.

The pricing on the AC3000 models are also coming down a little (I've seen individual devices on clearance online already) - perhaps they have a faster system in the works for 2018 - so might look for some AC3000 deals later on, if you want to upgrade the speed someday. Right now, the AC2200 deal is so good and certainly meets most everyone's needs, I would have to say.

The nice thing is, with Costco, you'll be able to take either back at almost anytime (esp. with the purchase during the holiday period. I know Best Buy you have until mid-January...Amazon is through Jan. 31st), so you could get both out and do some comparison for yourself with the speeds and coverage. It wouldn't take long to see if the Costco package was worth the extra ~$80 to have one less satellite.

For me, I like the idea of an extra satellite to use. As an example, even if I didn't have a dedicated place to plug it in and 'live' 24/7, it could be a utility/rover extender for when I need to expand coverage outside somewhere or elsewhere on the property. I just take it and plug it in somewhere. It also can be a spare if another fails in or outside the warranty.

As an FYI - I do have all five of my satellites in use and I do have 1000/1000Mbps service, and I am not regretting sticking with just an AC2200 system, even though I am a tech/gadget guy (aren't we all?!). I am way more satisfied knowing that I have coverage and great speed everywhere, and the extra satellite(s) make those areas overlap and bleed into each other.

Simply put: It is enough, and will be for long time, I'm sure.

Oh, I also want to point out that the satellites from Costco do have 4 Ethernet ports on the back, and the Amazon package only has two (router still has four) - if that is a big deal to you. The Costco devices also have a USB 2.0 port on the back, but it is not enabled for anything, and I think it has been said that Netgear would eventually enable it for use with printers, hard drives/NAS, etc...but that has been several months now with still nothing. Again, might not be anything useful to you or most, but that is also a concession with this particular AC2200 package.
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It really is a steal at that price.

When I️ first came across it, I️ for sure thought it was a pricing mistake, I️ wanted to jump on it quick and pick one up in-store to use with a coupon (took two old routers in).

There also is an RBR20 router that was FCC'd approved at the same time as the satellites, but is unreleased. Perhaps Netgear is trying to (physically) slim down its hardware, but I️ rather like the current sizes. They look great and blend in with most decor and there are mounts available if you want to put one on a wall.

The dedicated 5Ghz backhaul is where this thing shines, and when they finally release the firmware for an Ethernet backhaul option, that will be even better for some locations.

Good to know about Amazon. They must had just dropped it, as it was still full price a short while ago.
As much as i love my Unifi APs performance. It does not have a dedicated backhaul. I am an IT administrator and my 3 unifi APs cost me as much as this. Feature wise i dont think anything can beat Unifi for the price but what im interested is performance and coverage.

8000 sq ft sound overkill for my house, but i will take it for $274. This is a better deal than the orbi 3000.
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That's a good question. You honestly can't go wrong with either. The Costco deal is incredible for all AC3000 devices.

I will say that either system is going to meet your coverage needs, and probably speed, as well. You only have (I say 'only' with a grin) 100/100Mbps - that's fast. The AC2200 will handle that easily, as its speed/backhaul is 866Mbps.

Keep in mind that the coverage that is marketed is likely a number that you will not actually get. In some cases, it might be dramatically lower due to the structure and other environmental variables. With that said, both should be fine, but you'll have more overhead with the Amazon deal.

If you didn't have to pay tax on Amazon, definitely the better deal right now. If you did pay tax, I would still say it has the edge, as you have one more satellite to help with coverage on your property.

If you had and used the $25 off $250 coupon from Costco, then it might swing back to the AC3000. I was looking in to doing the same thing and getting that set from Costco (I have that coupon) until this gem of a deal popped up - and a completely brand new product/hardware to boot (the RBS20 satellites), so I would also expect improvements under the hood. So far, so good.

The pricing on the AC3000 models are also coming down a little (I've seen individual devices on clearance online already) - perhaps they have a faster system in the works for 2018 - so might look for some AC3000 deals later on, if you want to upgrade the speed someday. Right now, the AC2200 deal is so good and certainly meets most everyone's needs, I would have to say.

The nice thing is, with Costco, you'll be able to take either back at almost anytime (esp. with the purchase during the holiday period. I know Best Buy you have until mid-January...Amazon is through Jan. 31st), so you could get both out and do some comparison for yourself with the speeds and coverage. It wouldn't take long to see if the Costco package was worth the extra ~$80 to have one less satellite.

For me, I like the idea of an extra satellite to use. As an example, even if I didn't have a dedicated place to plug it in and 'live' 24/7, it could be a utility/rover extender for when I need to expand coverage outside somewhere or elsewhere on the property. I just take it and plug it in somewhere. It also can be a spare if another fails in or outside the warranty.

As an FYI - I do have all five of my satellites in use and I do have 1000/1000Mbps service, and I am not regretting sticking with just an AC2200 system, even though I am a tech/gadget guy (aren't we all?!). I am way more satisfied knowing that I have coverage and great speed everywhere, and the extra satellite(s) make those areas overlap and bleed into each other.

Simply put: It is enough, and will be for long time, I'm sure.

Oh, I also want to point out that the satellites from Costco do have 4 Ethernet ports on the back, and the Amazon package only has two (router still has four) - if that is a big deal to you. The Costco devices also have a USB 2.0 port on the back, but it is not enabled for anything, and I think it has been said that Netgear would eventually enable it for use with printers, hard drives/NAS, etc...but that has been several months now with still nothing. Again, might not be anything useful to you or most, but that is also a concession with this particular AC2200 package.
You mentioned you have a gigabit internet speed. Is the orbi connected directly to your modem
Or do you have another router in front? Have you ever tried doing a speedtest via LAN on the Main Orbi router?
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