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Nikon D3400 Camera + 18-55 VR & 70-300mm Lens (Refurb) + $20 eBay GC EXPIRED

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BuyDig via eBay has Nikon D3400 DSLR Camera + 18-55mm VR & 70-300mm Lenes (Refurbished) + $20 eBay GC for $399.99. Shipping is free. Thanks iconian

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Bundle Includes:
  • Nikon D3400 Camera Body (Certified Refurbished)
  • EN-EL14a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
  • MH-24 Quick Charger
  • DK-25 Rubber Eyecup
  • AN-DC3 Camera Strap
  • BF-1B Body Cap
  • Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR (Certified Refurbished)
  • LC-55A 55mm Snap-On Front Lens Cap
  • Rear Lens Cap
  • Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G ED (Certified Refurbished)
  • LC-58 58mm Snap-On Front Lens Cap
  • Rear Lens Cap
  • Nikon Deluxe Digital SLR Camera Case - Gadget Bag (17001D)
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I wouldn't recommend either option. The 70-300mm lens is actually quite good if it comes with VR (Vibration Reduction), which helps reduce motion blur when you're shooting at slower shutter speeds (which is often the case when you're indoors or in situations where the lighting is insufficient). VR is also worth having when you're shooting at longer focal lengths since these lenses tend to be bigger, heavier, and consequently more susceptible to shaky hands.

The 70-300mm lens included in this deal does not have VR, which explains the lower price. This package often appears in many of the brick-and-mortar stores like Target and Best Buy. I would personally wait until a manufacturer refurbished model is offered at a discount. There was a deal offered yesterday for a refurb d3400 body with 18-55mm lens for $300 from a Nikon authorized retailer. I would expect a similar deal to appear in the near future. If you absolutely must have a telephoto zoom, the 55-200mm lens offers surprisingly good image quality for the price, and it's equipped with VR. You can often find used or refurb copies of this for $100 or less.

Many people worry about the 90-day warranty for Nikon refurbs, but this really isn't anything to be concerned about. Refurbs are often returns that were barely used and undergo a stricter inspection process before being offered for sale again. I've bought a bunch, and the shutter counts have almost always been less than 1,000 clicks. And none have broken down on me. If there is an issue, it will almost always surface very early into the 90 day period. (Just make sure the camera is refurbished by the manufacturer, not a third party.)
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I have the 70-300 lens in NON VR and it surprises me with sharp image quality. It's light, fast to focus, silent, and smooth. As a fyi, when using a tripod, most photographers (self included) turn off VR as it can create a vibration with the tripod. I have two other lenses that reach to 300mm and I get more keepers with the non VR lens. All of this may hinge on your ability to hold the camera steady, what your shutter is set to, and light. Try shooting with it, set your ISO to 800 or 1600, and try some daylight shots. Then try shooting at 3200 and see what you get. The Nikon sensor will deliver sharp images at 3200 no problem.

Shot with the kit 70-300 P lens in the kit below, non VR at 300mm and handheld
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With the cashback and gift card , seems to be decent.
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With the cashback and gift card , seems to be decent.
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How does this compare to brand new one with only the 18-55 Len that's also $400? It's brand new machine + 1-year warranty + no tax(if you buy from places such as bhphotovideo). Main reason I'm asking is I heard the 70-300 Len is not very good.
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How does this compare to brand new one with only the 18-55 Len that's also $400? It's brand new machine + 1-year warranty + no tax(if you buy from places such as bhphotovideo). Main reason I'm asking is I heard the 70-300 Len is not very good.
I wouldn't recommend either option. The 70-300mm lens is actually quite good if it comes with VR (Vibration Reduction), which helps reduce motion blur when you're shooting at slower shutter speeds (which is often the case when you're indoors or in situations where the lighting is insufficient). VR is also worth having when you're shooting at longer focal lengths since these lenses tend to be bigger, heavier, and consequently more susceptible to shaky hands.

The 70-300mm lens included in this deal does not have VR, which explains the lower price. This package often appears in many of the brick-and-mortar stores like Target and Best Buy. I would personally wait until a manufacturer refurbished model is offered at a discount. There was a deal offered yesterday for a refurb d3400 body with 18-55mm lens for $300 from a Nikon authorized retailer. I would expect a similar deal to appear in the near future. If you absolutely must have a telephoto zoom, the 55-200mm lens offers surprisingly good image quality for the price, and it's equipped with VR. You can often find used or refurb copies of this for $100 or less.

Many people worry about the 90-day warranty for Nikon refurbs, but this really isn't anything to be concerned about. Refurbs are often returns that were barely used and undergo a stricter inspection process before being offered for sale again. I've bought a bunch, and the shutter counts have almost always been less than 1,000 clicks. And none have broken down on me. If there is an issue, it will almost always surface very early into the 90 day period. (Just make sure the camera is refurbished by the manufacturer, not a third party.)
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I wouldn't recommend either option. The 70-300mm lens is actually quite good if it comes with VR (Vibration Reduction), which helps reduce motion blur when you're shooting at slower shutter speeds (which is often the case when you're indoors or in situations where the lighting is insufficient). VR is also worth having when you're shooting at longer focal lengths since these lenses tend to be bigger, heavier, and consequently more susceptible to shaky hands.

The 70-300mm lens included in this deal does not have VR, which explains the lower price. This package often appears in many of the brick-and-mortar stores like Target and Best Buy. I would personally wait until a manufacturer refurbished model is offered at a discount. There was a deal offered yesterday for a refurb d3400 body with 18-55mm lens for $300 from a Nikon authorized retailer. I would expect a similar deal to appear in the near future. If you absolutely must have a telephoto zoom, the 55-200mm lens offers surprisingly good image quality for the price, and it's equipped with VR. You can often find used or refurb copies of this for $100 or less.

Many people worry about the 90-day warranty for Nikon refurbs, but this really isn't anything to be concerned about. Refurbs are often returns that were barely used and undergo a stricter inspection process before being offered for sale again. I've bought a bunch, and the shutter counts have almost always been less than 1,000 clicks. And none have broken down on me. If there is an issue, it will almost always surface very early into the 90 day period. (Just make sure the camera is refurbished by the manufacturer, not a third party.)
Thanks for the detailed reply man! Much appreciated Smilie
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I have the 70-300 lens in NON VR and it surprises me with sharp image quality. It's light, fast to focus, silent, and smooth. As a fyi, when using a tripod, most photographers (self included) turn off VR as it can create a vibration with the tripod. I have two other lenses that reach to 300mm and I get more keepers with the non VR lens. All of this may hinge on your ability to hold the camera steady, what your shutter is set to, and light. Try shooting with it, set your ISO to 800 or 1600, and try some daylight shots. Then try shooting at 3200 and see what you get. The Nikon sensor will deliver sharp images at 3200 no problem.

Shot with the kit 70-300 P lens in the kit below, non VR at 300mm and handheld
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I have the 70-300 lens in NON VR and it surprises me with sharp image quality. It's light, fast to focus, silent, and smooth. As a fyi, when using a tripod, most photographers (self included) turn off VR as it can create a vibration with the tripod. I have two other lenses that reach to 300mm and I get more keepers with the non VR lens. All of this may hinge on your ability to hold the camera steady, what your shutter is set to, and light. Try shooting with it, set your ISO to 800 or 1600, and try some daylight shots. Then try shooting at 3200 and see what you get. The Nikon sensor will deliver sharp images at 3200 no problem.

Shot with the kit 70-300 P lens in the kit below, non VR at 300mm and handheld
sharpness of your pictures rate from 1-10 are like 5-6, that's not considered sharp
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[QUOTE=proace;108475335]sharpness of your pictures rated from 1-10 are like 5-6, that's not considered sharp[/QUOTE

Ok, try these.
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sharpness of your pictures rated from 1-10 are like 5-6, that's not considered sharp[/QUOTE

Ok, try these.
Those are great shots! (I loved the other ones too. Really tough to get that kind of sharpness from a rapidly moving location like a white-water rafting boat!)

This goes to show that technique and artistic vision are far more important than gear when it comes to making good images. Beginning photographers can learn a whole lot by trying to get the most out of the equipment we already have rather than upgrading all the time.

Having said all this, however, I stand by my earlier recommendation that all else being equal, VR > non-VR (except when using a tripod or shooting fast-moving action sequences).
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sharpness of your pictures rated from 1-10 are like 5-6, that's not considered sharp[/QUOTE

Ok, try these.
​u got me mate
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Those are great shots! (I loved the other ones too. Really tough to get that kind of sharpness from a rapidly moving location like a white-water rafting boat!)

This goes to show that technique and artistic vision are far more important than gear when it comes to making good images. Beginning photographers can learn a whole lot by trying to get the most out of the equipment we already have rather than upgrading all the time.

Having said all this, however, I stand by my earlier recommendation that all else being equal, VR > non-VR (except when using a tripod or shooting fast-moving action sequences).

Thanks and I agree that a IS lens is preferred for general use. That said, don't eliminate this non IS lens in good light until you try it. A lot of unsharp/soft images can be attributed to one mashing the shutter and/or shutter lag or the wrong ISO and shutter speed. Back when I first shot film in the early 70's, learning to brace was important...like shooting a rifle..steady, aim, squeeze. Cameras or lenses with image stabilization and vibration reduction did not appear until 1995 (Canon) and Nikon at 2000 but we still managed to get good sharpness. Interesting in that the pursuit in ultimate sharpness, that fly's out the window to a degree when one prints vs looking at the image on a high rez monitor where we get into pixel peeking mode. Fact is that many images are not meant to be super sharp like portraits, certain wedding scenes, etc.

It's a great time to start getting good/great photos and video as the performance and cost of these newer cameras is excellent. And while I'm ranting, print your photos, otherwise they sit on a storage device 99% of the time and never get seen. For me, it's all about saving that little slice of life at that particular time (especially when my daughters were little) and then looking back at my photo books filled with good memories.

Happy photography to all.
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