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Problem with laptop or Windows?

567 19 December 7, 2017 at 10:22 PM
I am sure this will be a disappointment to some of you who have seen my other thread....I bought a laptop for my father. He insisted we get a cheap one (I know, for 1/3 the cost I could get a SSD for his old laptop)

It is a Lenovo AMD A12 with 8 gigs of RAM and windows 10 (I have never even seen windows 10 before)

I booted up the laptop to set it up for him, first thing I did was windows update. It took over 5 hours!!

Then I opened Microsoft Edge (whatever the new browser name is) and tried to go to yahoo - it never loaded!
I tried reloading yahoo 3 times and it never loaded. I then tried to go to download.com and it took 5 minutes for the page to load.
I downloaded chrome and that took over an hour to install.

I installed an ad blocker in chrome. Then I tried going to yahoo.com and it took over 7 minutes to load. Then cnn took another 5 minutes.
I gave up and shut down the laptop.

What do you think is the issue?
1. I dont think it is my internet connection because I tried going to yahoo and cnn on my laptop and it loaded instantly
2. I dont think its due to the 5400 rpm harddrive. with 8 gigs of RAM it shouldnt even touch the harddrive, plus I am just trying to load a webpage.
3. CPU - even though its a low level AMD to just load a page should not have any issues
4. Could it be some kind of windows 10 super anti-spyware setting? its checking the traffic so much that it barely loads?

Thank you

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I am sure this will be a disappointment to some of you who have seen my other thread....I bought a laptop for my father. He insisted we get a cheap one (I know, for 1/3 the cost I could get a SSD for his old laptop)

It is a Lenovo AMD A12 with 8 gigs of RAM and windows 10 (I have never even seen windows 10 before)

I booted up the laptop to set it up for him, first thing I did was windows update. It took over 5 hours!!

Then I opened Microsoft Edge (whatever the new browser name is) and tried to go to yahoo - it never loaded!
I tried reloading yahoo 3 times and it never loaded. I then tried to go to download.com and it took 5 minutes for the page to load.
I downloaded chrome and that took over an hour to install.

I installed an ad blocker in chrome. Then I tried going to yahoo.com and it took over 7 minutes to load. Then cnn took another 5 minutes.
I gave up and shut down the laptop.

What do you think is the issue?
1. I dont think it is my internet connection because I tried going to yahoo and cnn on my laptop and it loaded instantly
2. I dont think its due to the 5400 rpm harddrive. with 8 gigs of RAM it shouldnt even touch the harddrive, plus I am just trying to load a webpage.
3. CPU - even though its a low level AMD to just load a page should not have any issues
4. Could it be some kind of windows 10 super anti-spyware setting? its checking the traffic so much that it barely loads?

Thank you
First off, are you on wired or wireless? If on wireless that may be the source of the problem depending on what type of connectivity you get. Connect via ethernet cable\wire to see if the performance gets markedly better as that would be a clear indicator that there is an issue with the wireless if wired is much faster\does not have the issues.

Secondly, welcome to Windows 10 and its horrid downloading lol. Depending on what version\update of Windows 10 it came with, it can take forever to download and install to the latest. Not only does Win 10 spy on you, it downloads crap all the time whether you like it or not in many cases.

As to the rest of it, check that your AV is not running scans constantly. With a slow processor and Windows 10 maybe doing background loads\checks, I could see it dragging the machine to a crawl as well.

That said, it should not be that slow...something is definitely off.
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Let it sit and run for a while unused, that gets all the program scans done, etc You could try a reset but I have my doubts on if that would help much. I would run a test with SeaTool and see what it reports back. Or use this as a learning experience and tell dad this is what you get with a bargain basement machine. I have seen W10 be kind of like this an one of those $250 BF intel celeron machines it was nearly unuseable.
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First off, are you on wired or wireless?

Secondly, welcome to Windows 10 and its horrid downloading lol. Depending on what version\update of Windows 10 it came with, it can take forever to download and install to the latest. Not only does Win 10 spy on you, it downloads crap all the time whether you like it or not in many cases.

As to the rest of it, check that your AV is not running scans constantly. With a slow processor and Windows 10 maybe doing background loads\checks, I could see it dragging the machine to a crawl as well.
I was on wireless, which of course is slower but I was also on wireless on my laptop right next to it and it worked fine.

I dont have a separate AV program, just windows defender (first time running it also - previously used Avast and AVG on Win 7)

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Let it sit and run for a while unused, that gets all the program scans done, etc You could try a reset but I have my doubts on if that would help much. I would run a test with SeaTool and see what it reports back. Or use this as a learning experience and tell dad this is what you get with a bargain basement machine. I have seen W10 be kind of like this an one of those $250 BF intel celeron machines it was nearly unuseable.
Why is that?
Im sure the machine specs are better than a Chromebook and those run with no problems I've heard.
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I was on wireless, which of course is slower but I was also on wireless on my laptop right next to it and it worked fine.

I dont have a separate AV program, just windows defender (first time running it also - previously used Avast and AVG on Win 7)



Why is that?
Im sure the machine specs are better than a Chromebook and those run with no problems I've heard.
You can't compare a chromebook as it's a totally different os. Windows 10 is much heavier weight than chromeOS
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Look in task Manager and see whats running that is not needed and CPU usage. Probably has some bloatware also.
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I was on wireless, which of course is slower but I was also on wireless on my laptop right next to it and it worked fine.

Besides the point. If your laptop wireless is having issues, if there are some interference issues or if you router's wireless is having issues it will affect the results. Run off of wired to take it out of the equation for the time being.

That said, buy cheap, get cheap and as was noted already by others, some lower end machines will become unusable running Windows. Which is why I never recommend anything less than an i3 and usually an i5 based on value for the dollar. Saving a $100 or so just is not worth it. My 2 cents.
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I am sure this will be a disappointment to some of you who have seen my other thread....I bought a laptop for my father. He insisted we get a cheap one (I know, for 1/3 the cost I could get a SSD for his old laptop)

It is a Lenovo AMD A12 with 8 gigs of RAM and windows 10 (I have never even seen windows 10 before)

I booted up the laptop to set it up for him, first thing I did was windows update. It took over 5 hours!!

Then I opened Microsoft Edge (whatever the new browser name is) and tried to go to yahoo - it never loaded!
I tried reloading yahoo 3 times and it never loaded. I then tried to go to download.com and it took 5 minutes for the page to load.
I downloaded chrome and that took over an hour to install.

I installed an ad blocker in chrome. Then I tried going to yahoo.com and it took over 7 minutes to load. Then cnn took another 5 minutes.
I gave up and shut down the laptop.

What do you think is the issue?
1. I dont think it is my internet connection because I tried going to yahoo and cnn on my laptop and it loaded instantly
2. I dont think its due to the 5400 rpm harddrive. with 8 gigs of RAM it shouldnt even touch the harddrive, plus I am just trying to load a webpage.
3. CPU - even though its a low level AMD to just load a page should not have any issues
4. Could it be some kind of windows 10 super anti-spyware setting? its checking the traffic so much that it barely loads?

Thank you

For the 100th time...i3 vs i5 is irrelevant for general tasks...its the 5400rpm hard drive that slows things down....your assumption that since it has 8gb of ram "it doesnt touch the drive" makes no sense....buy an ssd, do a clean windows install and enjoy the old machine which was likely more powerful than this one - or install the ssd in this machine.......or keep chasing your tail in thread after thread taking bad advice.
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I would try the following:
1. Make sure Windows Update is enabled and you've gotten all of the latest available updates
2. Visit Lenovo Support site to see if there is an updated wireless/network driver: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/e...s/ht078107
3. go to a speed test site like: http://speedtest.xfinity.com/ to see what it reports
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I would check your internet router and modem first
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I would check your internet router and modem first
It's unlikely this will have any effect on his system that has been so slow to do normal tasks.
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