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WARNING THIS IS ANOTHER Deceptive zmodo / funlux listing on Amazon!

The NVR and cameras are NOT PoE, and the NVR is not capable of recording more than 720p

I know it is tempting due to the price, but you can not trust zmodo / funlux.. they astroturf reviews, and have done so here on SDs also, as well as sending updates to firmware to lock down your system and force you to use their cloud service, which starts out free but switches to a pay per service later.

Recommend avoiding the bottom vendors in this space...


Recommend the following instead, quality product, quality vendor, a real PoE system, does not use shills on SDs:
https://slickdeals.net/f/11104127-laview-nvr-poe-8-channel-security-system-w-4x-cameras-2x4mp-2x2mp-cams-279-99-free-shipping-newegg
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Hi Dortiz11426,

How many wires are in the "PoE" cable in this kit?
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WARNING THIS IS ANOTHER Deceptive zmodo / funlux listing on Amazon!

The NVR and cameras are NOT PoE, and the NVR is not capable of recording more than 720p

I know it is tempting due to the price, but you can not trust zmodo / funlux.. they astroturf reviews, and have done so here on SDs also, as well as sending updates to firmware to lock down your system and force you to use their cloud service, which starts out free but switches to a pay per service later.

Recommend avoiding the bottom vendors in this space...


Recommend the following instead, quality product, quality vendor, a real PoE system, does not use shills on SDs:
https://slickdeals.net/f/11104127-laview-nvr-poe-8-channel-security-system-w-4x-cameras-2x4mp-2x2mp-cams-279-99-free-shipping-newegg
As a Zmodo owner, I'll vouch for this. These things are cheap and not what is advertised. To this day I've never been able to get the advertised app to work.
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Hi Dortiz11426,

How many wires are in the "PoE" cable in this kit?
I always wondered about this. Zmodo was my first NVR system. I ran regular cat5e instead of its sPOE 2pair/4wire cable, and it worked, however, the cameras dont work directly to a POE switch. Must have some sort of proprietary handshake.
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I always wondered about this. Zmodo was my first NVR system. I ran regular cat5e instead of its sPOE 2pair/4wire cable, and it worked, however, the cameras dont work directly to a POE switch. Must have some sort of proprietary handshake.
Hi Wesley410,

Completely proprietary and completely fraudulent representation as what they use does not even count as ethernet - minimum spec for ethernet twisted pair is 4 wires for data, add 2 power wires and you get 6 wires total as the minimum to be any sort of PoE.

Since zmodo / funlux and others are claiming to use some sort of Power over Ethernet with only 4 wires - 2 for data, 2 for power - they are clearly not using Ethernet.

In fact they could have just used traditional POTS cable with 2 pairs ( phone wires ) and could have easily used RJ11 jacks.

Looks like the only design issue to use an RJ45 jack is to slightly increase the distance between the 2 power wires.

The rest of the reason is to be deceive us into thinking we're getting something which uses internet standards.
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Hi Wesley410,

Completely proprietary and completely fraudulent representation as what they use does not even count as ethernet - minimum spec for ethernet twisted pair is 4 wires for data, add 2 power wires and you get 6 wires total as the minimum to be any sort of PoE.
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Their amazon listing isnt too bad. I see it listed as Simplified POE, and in the description it even says proprietary cables that are inter-operable with cat5e. They should call it something else though since it doesnt work with regular POE.

To the regular consumer I could see the frustration.
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Their amazon listing isnt too bad. I see it listed as Simplified POE, and in the description it even says proprietary cables that are inter-operable with cat5e. They should call it something else though since it doesnt work with regular POE.

To the regular consumer I could see the frustration.
HI Wesley410,

Indeed

They definitely should not be claiming it is a PoE system of any kind, and if they were honest they would also stop using 1080N - which is really about 1/2 1080P resolution.

I can use a cat5e/cat6 cable with a analog coax CCTV security camera system by using baluns with RJ45 jacks - that still does not make it a PoE system.

I could even hack my Christmas lights to use a cat5e/cat6 cable - but that wouldn't be make my Christmas lights PoE.
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