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Windows 10 boot time

2,588 December 31, 2017 at 02:43 PM
Used to take ~10 sec to boot. After installing a dedicated graphics care (GTX 750 Ti) the boot time went to about 45 sec.
Went into Task Scheduler and disabled all of the NV startup crap. However, no change.

Here is what the Event log says:

Error: This driver took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : BasicDisplay
Friendly Name : Microsoft Basic Display Driver
Version : 10.0.16299.15 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Total Time : 6299ms
Degradation Time : 6276ms

Critical: This device took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C02&SUBSYS_78661462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
Friendly Name : Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Version :
Total Time : 28491ms
Degradation Time : 25253ms

Critical: Session manager initialization caused a slow down in the startup process:
Name : SMSSInit
Total Time : 19449ms
Degradation Time : 17298ms

Is there a conflict between the basic Windows Display driver and the NVidia driver?

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Used to take ~10 sec to boot. After installing a dedicated graphics care (GTX 750 Ti) the boot time went to about 45 sec.
Went into Task Scheduler and disabled all of the NV startup crap. However, no change.

Here is what the Event log says:

Error: This driver took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : BasicDisplay
Friendly Name : Microsoft Basic Display Driver
Version : 10.0.16299.15 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Total Time : 6299ms
Degradation Time : 6276ms

Critical: This device took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C02&SUBSYS_78661462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
Friendly Name : Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Version :
Total Time : 28491ms
Degradation Time : 25253ms

Critical: Session manager initialization caused a slow down in the startup process:
Name : SMSSInit
Total Time : 19449ms
Degradation Time : 17298ms

Is there a conflict between the basic Windows Display driver and the NVidia driver?

Thanks for reading!
You should start by making sure that every hardware driver is updated through the manufacturer's site - so, for example, if you have an Intel chip you want the update to come from downloadcenter<dot>intel<dot>com
Update all drivers and report back on your boot time.
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Used to take ~10 sec to boot. After installing a dedicated graphics care (GTX 750 Ti) the boot time went to about 45 sec.
Went into Task Scheduler and disabled all of the NV startup crap. However, no change.

Here is what the Event log says:

Error: This driver took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : BasicDisplay
Friendly Name : Microsoft Basic Display Driver
Version : 10.0.16299.15 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Total Time : 6299ms
Degradation Time : 6276ms

Critical: This device took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C02&SUBSYS_78661462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
Friendly Name : Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Version :
Total Time : 28491ms
Degradation Time : 25253ms

Critical: Session manager initialization caused a slow down in the startup process:
Name : SMSSInit
Total Time : 19449ms
Degradation Time : 17298ms

Is there a conflict between the basic Windows Display driver and the NVidia driver?

Thanks for reading!
I agree with Noddy. It appears you don't have the specific drivers installed for devices on your system. That should definitely help.
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You should start by making sure that every hardware driver is updated through the manufacturer's site - so, for example, if you have an Intel chip you want the update to come from downloadcenter<dot>intel<dot>com
Update all drivers and report back on your boot time.
Thanks Noddy! Yes, you are right, I recently re-did the computer and forgot to install the Mobo drivers (or assumed they would be updated via Windows updates). Device manager didn't show any ! marks.

So I installed them and that made the errors go away. Boot time is now down to 30 seconds, not awful, but definitely longer that before installing the video card.

The "9C" code is displayed much longer. USB initialization, I figured I needed to install the USB 3/host drivers, but when attempting that, I get a "this computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software". I guess not needed for Windows 10? And no, it's not set to boot from USB in the BIOS.
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The "9C" code is displayed much longer. USB initialization, I figured I needed to install the USB 3/host drivers, but when attempting that, I get a "this computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software". I guess not needed for Windows 10? And no, it's not set to boot from USB in the BIOS.
What is the make / model / hardware revision of your motherboard?

My guess would be that you need to uninstall the Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller and install the correct update for your motherboard chipset but let's start with identifying the board.
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What is the make / model / hardware revision of your motherboard?
It is the MSI Z87M Gaming. Hardware revision - is this something perhaps visible in the BIOS? Running the latest avail BIOS from the MSI site.

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My guess would be that you need to uninstall the Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller and install the correct update for your motherboard chipset but let's start with identifying the board.
Well I installed the latest Chipset driver from here: https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/su...Win10%2064. There is no separate USB3 driver on that site, that's why I thought perhaps it's not needed for Windows 10.
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It is the MSI Z87M Gaming. Hardware revision - is this something perhaps visible in the BIOS? Running the latest avail BIOS from the MSI site.



Well I installed the latest Chipset driver from here: https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/su...Win10%2064. There is no separate USB3 driver on that site, that's why I thought perhaps it's not needed for Windows 10.
Did you install the Intel Management Engine along with the chipset drivers?
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No... I went back and forth on that one and eventually skipped it. Should I install it? Will that make the USB3 behave better?
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Just wanted to thank Noddy again - happy New Year! Peace

The 9C USB hang has disappeared, and the boot time is back to normal: ~15sec. Used to be 10, but the new dedicated graphics card takes about 5 sec to initialize. No problem.

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Just wanted to thank Noddy again - happy New Year! Peace

The 9C USB hang has disappeared, and the boot time is back to normal: ~15sec. Used to be 10, but the new dedicated graphics card takes about 5 sec to initialize. No problem.

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Awesome! Glad to hear you got it sorted!
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