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Help finding a Mobo/CPU/RAM combo for cheapish to replace 10+ year old system.

264 296 January 6, 2018 at 02:16 PM
I was trying to fix a relative's old PC setup. Following specs:

(TL;DR: Need to find a system that is better than the below specs for the cheapest possibleSmilie

  • MSI DKA790GX (apparently has integrated Radeon HD 3300?)
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
  • 4-8 GB RAM (forgot how much :/ )

Anyway, after troubleshooting for some time I'm convinced that either the MoBo or the CPU is bad, and I'm heavily leaning on the MoBo being the issue (no post, video, beeps, etc).

Anyway, we need a replacement for her and would like to do it as cheap as possible. Since I can't find any standard ATX AM2 motherboards for new at a reasonable price I turned to eBay. It looks like the cheapest we are going to find one on eBay is $30-40 and that is probably used and a big hassle to return, etc if it turns out the MoBo was not the issue. So, instead of buying used equipment to play the swap out game we just want to replace the whole system...

I don't mind buying a used system on eBay or CL, but was hoping I could put together a Mobo/CPU/RAM combo for as close to $150 as possible. We have a good case and PSU so don't need those.

I realize not going to get anything blazing at that price, but I figure should be able to get something about twice as good (CPU/graphics wise) than that 10 year old tech.

Does anyone have some good suggestions on what a good setup would be?

Usage is standard productivity/internet with light gaming (obviously she wasn't doing anything a Radeon HD 3300 couldn't support)!

thanks.

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You can pick up an optiplex 9010 for around $100-$200 that will be significantly faster.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Opt...0705.m4780
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Didn't know Ebay had a try and return policy if it turns out that wasn't your problem

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Didn't know Ebay had a try and return policy if it turns out that wasn't your problem
sorry - not sure what you were trying to indicate here?
What I meant was that if a seller accepts returns we could always buy MoBo on ebay and then send back if it turns out that wasn't the issue. However the time and cost (return shipping) to mess around with that doesn't seem worth it, which is why I'd rather get a whole new system (or at least CPU/MoBo/RAM).
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I'd just buy a refurbished machine from dell outlet. Should be some better deals in the next 2 weeks.
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The cost of a windows license makes building it much closer in price to buying refurbished. Then there's the matter of how much support you'll have to provide.

Dell business machines typically have a 3yr warranty.
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sorry - not sure what you were trying to indicate here?
What I meant was that if a seller accepts returns we could always buy MoBo on ebay and then send back if it turns out that wasn't the issue. However the time and cost (return shipping) to mess around with that doesn't seem worth it, which is why I'd rather get a whole new system (or at least CPU/MoBo/RAM).
On one hand it doesn't matter if the seller "accepts returns" as Ebay / Paypal will shove it back down the seller's throat if you claim it was DOA or damaged. Ebay does NOTHING to protect sellers from the buyers any more - even when the buyers lie, cheat and steal.

On the other hand no seller in their right mind would accept returns on used electronic items like a motherboard IMO. How are they to know you didn't damage it?

Replacement system? Refurbished Dell either direct or from Amazon. There are gazillions of refurb towers to be had - and very cheap. A better choice - if this is just or mostly a web browser might be a mini PC from someone like Minix for under $200. Only real drawback is a lack of storage space and definitely not for fast gaming or lots of Photoshop or video editing but great basic computers and they are silent and cheap to operate.
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On one hand it doesn't matter if the seller "accepts returns" as Ebay / Paypal will shove it back down the seller's throat if you claim it was DOA or damaged. Ebay does NOTHING to protect sellers from the buyers any more - even when the buyers lie, cheat and steal.

On the other hand no seller in their right mind would accept returns on used electronic items like a motherboard IMO. How are they to know you didn't damage it?

Replacement system? Refurbished Dell either direct or from Amazon. There are gazillions of refurb towers to be had - and very cheap. A better choice - if this is just or mostly a web browser might be a mini PC from someone like Minix for under $200. Only real drawback is a lack of storage space and definitely not for fast gaming or lots of Photoshop or video editing but great basic computers and they are silent and cheap to operate.
I don't really want to debate eBay policies - point is some sellers accept returns regardless (as long as buyer pays return shipping), so if they did I would have had the opportunity to return the MoBo if it was determined that was not the issue. I'm not looking to defraud anyone and therefore it probably isn't worth my time or money to go this route.

I've been looking at some used Dells on eBay. Some near the $150 mark but most are closer to $200. Also having a hard time finding out what embedded graphics are on some of these. It seems like a lot of these systems have something equivalent to the Radeon HD 3300 that was in this 10 year old MoBo we have...which is surprising.

The one problem buying used from eBay (or even Dell refurb direct) is that there will likely be no or very limited warranty. I've had enough MoBos fail on me through the years that I would be wary to buy this way.

This might be the route, but does anyone have any advice on just a barebones CPU/MoBo/RAM combo for under $200 that would be comparable (or even better) to these used systems? I have case and PS for ATX and an HDD.

thanks.
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Here are some new parts:

MSI A320M PRO-VD PLUS AM4 AMD A320 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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Patriot Signature Line 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4 2400 MHz DRAM (Desktop Memory) CL17 1.2V Black DIMM
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$45 shipped

ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition Graphics Card
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr..._zone.html
$60 shipped

There have been better deals in the past if you can wait around for them to come back. Otherwise Microcenter or Frys would be a good option for cheap motherboard/cpu combos if you have a local B&M.

You can use www.pcpartpicker.com to price out system components and probably find a better configuration.

The problem is DDR4 RAM is ridiculously expensive now. Any savings gained from buying cheap motherboards and processors is eaten up by having to shell out so much for RAM.
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it might just be the power supply.

does the fan on the power supply spin up when you try to power on the machine?
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Here are some new parts:

MSI A320M PRO-VD PLUS AM4 AMD A320 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$30 AR
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6813144064

AMD Athlon X4 950 Bristol Ridge Quad-Core 3.5 GHz Socket AM4 65W AD950XAGABBOX Desktop Processor
$57 shipped
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6819113456

Patriot Signature Line 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4 2400 MHz DRAM (Desktop Memory) CL17 1.2V Black DIMM
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6820225080
$45 shipped

ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition Graphics Card
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr..._zone.html
$60 shipped

There have been better deals in the past if you can wait around for them to come back. Otherwise Microcenter or Frys would be a good option for cheap motherboard/cpu combos if you have a local B&M.

You can use www.pcpartpicker.com to price out system components and probably find a better configuration.

The problem is DDR4 RAM is ridiculously expensive now. Any savings gained from buying cheap motherboards and processors is eaten up by having to shell out so much for RAM.
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Add that and you can get refurbished machines from Del Outlet for about the same price ~$300.
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