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Memory upgrade recommendation - currently 2+2 GB DDR2 800

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Mine is an ASUS mobo M3N78-VM
PC2-6400 DDR2 800
Have Win 10 Pro running
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 925 Processor - is this AM2+ socket?

ASUS does not talk about win 10 on their support page.
Manual recommends 2GB stick each - 4 slots

AM2+ has a limitation on 1066 speed memory - so just get 2+2 DDR2 800 for the empty slots? But newer memory are backward compatible?

What would be a reasonable memory upgrade?

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I know your a fan of older hardware or have a lot of it but I would not put money into this system. It's a processor from Q1 2009 so 9 years old. Asus doesn't talk about windows 10 because they don't support a new OS on OLD hardware. Not sure what your doing with this older hardware but 4gb in it's day was decent. I believe this was the system you had SSD issues on too last week?

My recommendation would be to save your upgrade money into buying new hardware with modern components. Performance, reliability, and future operability will all be much better with modern hardware.
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I know your a fan of older hardware or have a lot of it but I would not put money into this system. It's a processor from Q1 2009 so 9 years old. Asus doesn't talk about windows 10 because they don't support a new OS on OLD hardware. Not sure what your doing with this older hardware but 4gb in it's day was decent. I believe this was the system you had SSD issues on too last week?

My recommendation would be to save your upgrade money into buying new hardware with modern components. Performance, reliability, and future operability will all be much better with modern hardware.
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Unless you need this legacy system for some specific reason (which I doubt given that you put Win10 on it), there's no point in putting any money into it. Save the money and use it buy a more modern machine
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Doing anything to upgrade this dinosaur is a waste of money. I'm sure it also uses a lot more electricity than newer systems, so keeping it alive is probably costing you more than a newer computer in the long run.

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Wow the man asked a question and gets a lecture on what he needs. As well as a political view. The quote is interesting too cause that savings your speaking of with electricity. If you have a 100 amps delivered to your house and use use 50 amps you still pay for the hundred. Do you really need to upgrade to send an email surf the web and type a letter? I'll bet his machine will perform better offline then anything with windows 10 and he can go backwards and foward at will.
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Wow the man asked a question and gets a lecture on what he needs. As well as a political view. The quote is interesting too cause that savings your speaking of with electricity. If you have a 100 amps delivered to your house and use use 50 amps you still pay for the hundred. Do you really need to upgrade to send an email surf the web and type a letter? I'll bet his machine will perform better offline then anything with windows 10 and he can go backwards and foward at will.
What was political? The mere suggestion of saving electricity with a modern machine? If that is political and bothersome to you then... wow.

In any case, where do you live that charges for electricity like that? Nobody pays for "100 amps" no matter how much they use. In every municipality I'm aware of you're charged a rate based on the number of kWh used. A new computer that uses less electricity saves you money. Whether that's enough to matter is dependent on your usage and electricity rates.

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Wish I saw this thread earlier. I've thrown out a bunch of ddr2 recently that I would have passed along.
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AM2+ has a limitation on 1066 speed memory - so just get 2+2 DDR2 800 for the empty slots? But newer memory are backward compatible?

What would be a reasonable memory upgrade?
Other folks have pretty much given you the best advice that this machine isn't worth it. However, should you choose to upgrade this machine, you need to know that DDR memory is NOT backward compatible. You will need to find DDR2 DIMMs, which are pretty scarce and expensive (per GB) by this point. You're could look at used RAM on eBay for this to make more economic sense, but used RAM can be pretty sketchy if it's been abused. Since you have four slots adding two more 2GB modules would be a good idea. Win10 will run nicely on 8GB of RAM, and then it will be your other components that are limiting you.
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While I agree that even a refurb desktop with an i3/i5 or can be had for under $200 on eBay might be a better long term choice, I will also say that these old Phenom CPU's are just fine for everyday use. Sure they use more power than their predecessors, but we're only talking about a difference of less than $10 per YEAR. Performance wise, this CPU is just fine for basic everyday stuff (~3500 benchmark).

As to your RAM question, You have to stick with the type of RAM that you have (DDR2). Now, you can go between PC-5300 or 6400... but can't get DDR3 for example. Get some cheap used stuff on eBay though. RAM (pretty much) either works or it doesn't. No sense in buying new. *If* you opt to keep this computer, you can also get an SSD hard drive to make it more peppy. And the thing about an SSD, is that you can always move it to another computer/laptop when you decide to get rid of this one.
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