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Last Edited by dhruva January 21, 2018 at 03:41 PM
This PoE switch does both 24v and 48v. It defaults to PoE+ (48v) but you can select 24v through management interface.

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$160 is the lowest price I have seen in a while. Combine this switch with a USG router and AP-PRO access point for wireless for a complete setup. The Unifi software can be run on any computer on your network. I run mine on an Ubuntu server, used also as a movie server. If a standalone server is not an option to run the unifi software, purchase also the Unifi Cloud Key which is essentially a mini Linux server running the Unifi software.
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I'm doing exactly what you said with a non-managed aka 'dumb' switch and would much rather have this product. Here is the problem with your setup. How do you power the security cameras? I have 3 1080p cameras and a UAP-AC-LR mounted in my garage and use the exact setup you explained. Not only does this require an extra POE powerblock to power all the devices. I paid an extra $40 for one on Amazon for a 4 port unit that supports all the current POE standards (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015S8397E/) but I still have zero management of the dumb switch. Did I mention using this solution requires 8 ethernet cables to power/connect the 4 devices I'm currently using through this switch.

But wait.. going the cheap route.. it still gets worse. Now I want to feed an additional camera and additional UAP off this unmanaged switch.. so it means I need to find another way to power those two POE devices. So do I use a janky powerstrip with two POE injectors plugged in? Or do I drop another $40 on another do it all powerblock. Either way a POE injector/power block means additional ethernet cabling and/or additional power sources. Its not anything I would label "extremely efficient / clean with wiring".

Reality is i'm going to scrap the whole 'dumb' switch idea and the extra POE powerblock I previously bought.. and do it right this time around by buying this 8 port POE switch that is managed aka 'smart'. That gives me room to add up to 4 more POE devices and never worry about POE injectors again. Already owning the USG/Cloud Key combo.. I will get alot more control & monitoring features over everything plugged into this switch.
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So tempting. Just got a nice mesh system with great throughput but would love better management features.
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$160 is the lowest price I have seen in a while. Combine this switch with a USG router and AP-PRO access point for wireless for a complete setup. The Unifi software can be run on any computer on your network. I run mine on an Ubuntu server, used also as a movie server. If a standalone server is not an option to run the unifi software, purchase also the Unifi Cloud Key which is essentially a mini Linux server running the Unifi software.
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I run mine on the cloud key. I love it. My old Linksys kept dropping devices. Zero issues with my Unifi setup. Can't wait till my work bonus comes & I can get their camera system.
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This brand is a premium brand, great product but..

If you're like me and you're looking into Utra High Def security cameras for outdoors, and you want to be extremely efficient / clean with wiring, you also don't want to waste.. this wouldn't necessarily be the best option.

My house is two stories, I wanted 4 UHD cameras setup under the rafters of the house pointing down. The absolute most efficient setup was to get a dummy switch (saved a lot) with all the cameras connected (I will never want each cam on its own VLAN nor other optional settings), have just 1 cable run down to my server closet where it connects to my non-PoE, fully managed switch. When it hits the managed switch, that's where all of the fun stuff comes into play. It's a highly expandable, smart solution.

If I want to add more cameras later (would like 6 on the first floor), I simply do the same thing, all those cams go into their own vlan port, its all connected to the NVR and I'm set. I do not need each cam on it's own VLAN but I absolutely want all the cams on a VLAN separate from everything else. No sacrifice to security, to it being connected to my smart home - it's completely solid. Even if power goes out, it has it's own cheap little power supply that'll last at least 2hrs.

By the way, there was no need for any injectors, I paid $52 open box on Amazon, the dummy switch is the most popular / highly rated - this isn't some odd ball switch and I saved a substantial amount of money.

It's a nice switch, nice company, probably the prettiest UI out there.. but I don't think many home owners will really need it.

To Clarify

Yes, it's a PoE switch in the attic, but it's a dummy PoE switch or "Budget." I see many caught onto that, others thought I magically powered up PoE cameras without power, they do not. There are dummy PoE switches for this exact purpose. They manufacturer these switches by design so you have this option.
  • Reduces and can (like in my case) totally eliminate the need for injectors for large homes
  • Reduces unnecessary cost of buying multiple managed/smart switches (a house just needs one!)
  • Reduces the amount of cabling having to be trafficked to the server closet (only 1 cable per floor, that's it)
  • Doesn't sacrifice anything. Security, Troubleshooting, Package management is managed on your primary switch.
  • Allows for one single, nice, smart/managed switch to look over your entire network!
  • Allows for extreme future proofing of your home. 1 Port for 4 cams vs 4 ports for 4 cams on your primary switch. Smart homes are still better off being hardwired over wireless, having those available ports allows for great expandability without sacrifice.


More explanation

This design isn't something I read on forums, this design is from a colleague that does this for a living 5 days a week, every week and not for some small SOHO but for banks, local government, and corporations. One size doesn't fit all, but this fits most.

Dummy switch is simply designed to keep a huge amount of cables from going into one room. It also keeps me from needing injectors to extent how far the power is able to travel. On top of that, it keeps the cost down. There's still a business class switch they're going into to ultimately, but to power the switches they must have PoE but that PoE switch doesn't need to be the only switch it goes into.

PoE cameras > Cat6 Cables (overkill even for 4mp cams but we wont get into that) > Dummy PoE Switch (in attic) > Cat6 cable > Home Server Closet > Managed Switch

Managed Switch = This is where all of the security takes place, where it talks to the rest of the network, where it's decides how it sits with the firewall. I have only 1 switch to ever worry about when it comes to security, managing my switches, troubleshooting, etc. Just 1. Not 3-4. And when I go to sell my house, I wont have a scary amount of cables, it's just a few leading into the closet itself (also have other systems outside of cams).

That 150W for the switch above, if you have 1 story you want to deal with and 1 switch you want to manage - go for it. It's a great deal. But if you want to keep expanding and expanding while not having extreme overkill, don't. There's absolutely no need for it. Have 1 switch to manage the other switches. Smart homes are becoming more and more complex, adding to that confusion / inefficiency wont help anyone.

Hope that helps clear things up for some of you.
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This brand is a premium brand, great product but..

If you're like me and you're looking into Utra High Def security cameras for outdoors, and you want to be extremely efficient / clean with wiring, you also don't want to waste.. this wouldn't necessarily be the best option.

My house is two stories, I wanted 4 UHD cameras setup under the rafters of the house pointing down. The absolute most efficient setup was to get a dummy switch (saved a lot) with all the cameras connected (I will never want each cam on its own VLAN nor other optional settings), have just 1 cable run down to my server closet where it connects to my non-PoE, fully managed switch. When it hits the managed switch, that's where all of the fun stuff comes into play. It's a highly expandable, smart solution.

If I want to add more cameras later (would like 6 on the first floor), I simply do the same thing, all those cams go into their own vlan port, its all connected to the NVR and I'm set. I do not need each cam on it's own VLAN but I absolutely want all the cams on a VLAN separate from everything else. No sacrifice to security, to it being connected to my smart home - it's completely solid. Even if power goes out, it has it's own cheap little power supply that'll last at least 2hrs.

By the way, there was no need for any injectors, I paid $52 open box on Amazon, the dummy switch is the most popular / highly rated - this isn't some odd ball switch and I saved a substantial amount of money.

It's a nice switch, nice company, probably the prettiest UI out there.. but I don't think many home owners will really need it.
I must be missing something, how do you power the cameras w/o POE?

How do you power the switch in the attic?
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I'm assuming davelikesdeals2 means a non-managed, but still POE switch. davelikesdeals2, a link to the switch you recommend would be appreciated.
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This brand is a premium brand, great product but..

If you're like me and you're looking into Utra High Def security cameras for outdoors, and you want to be extremely efficient / clean with wiring, you also don't want to waste.. this wouldn't necessarily be the best option.

My house is two stories, I wanted 4 UHD cameras setup under the rafters of the house pointing down. The absolute most efficient setup was to get a dummy switch (saved a lot) with all the cameras connected (I will never want each cam on its own VLAN nor other optional settings), have just 1 cable run down to my server closet where it connects to my non-PoE, fully managed switch. When it hits the managed switch, that's where all of the fun stuff comes into play. It's a highly expandable, smart solution.

If I want to add more cameras later (would like 6 on the first floor), I simply do the same thing, all those cams go into their own vlan port, its all connected to the NVR and I'm set. I do not need each cam on it's own VLAN but I absolutely want all the cams on a VLAN separate from everything else. No sacrifice to security, to it being connected to my smart home - it's completely solid. Even if power goes out, it has it's own cheap little power supply that'll last at least 2hrs.

By the way, there was no need for any injectors, I paid $52 open box on Amazon, the dummy switch is the most popular / highly rated - this isn't some odd ball switch and I saved a substantial amount of money.

It's a nice switch, nice company, probably the prettiest UI out there.. but I don't think many home owners will really need it.
I'm doing exactly what you said with a non-managed aka 'dumb' switch and would much rather have this product. Here is the problem with your setup. How do you power the security cameras? I have 3 1080p cameras and a UAP-AC-LR mounted in my garage and use the exact setup you explained. Not only does this require an extra POE powerblock to power all the devices. I paid an extra $40 for one on Amazon for a 4 port unit that supports all the current POE standards (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015S8397E/) but I still have zero management of the dumb switch. Did I mention using this solution requires 8 ethernet cables to power/connect the 4 devices I'm currently using through this switch.

But wait.. going the cheap route.. it still gets worse. Now I want to feed an additional camera and additional UAP off this unmanaged switch.. so it means I need to find another way to power those two POE devices. So do I use a janky powerstrip with two POE injectors plugged in? Or do I drop another $40 on another do it all powerblock. Either way a POE injector/power block means additional ethernet cabling and/or additional power sources. Its not anything I would label "extremely efficient / clean with wiring".

Reality is i'm going to scrap the whole 'dumb' switch idea and the extra POE powerblock I previously bought.. and do it right this time around by buying this 8 port POE switch that is managed aka 'smart'. That gives me room to add up to 4 more POE devices and never worry about POE injectors again. Already owning the USG/Cloud Key combo.. I will get alot more control & monitoring features over everything plugged into this switch.
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This brand is a premium brand, great product but..

If you're like me and you're looking into Utra High Def security cameras for outdoors, and you want to be extremely efficient / clean with wiring, you also don't want to waste.. this wouldn't necessarily be the best option.

My house is two stories, I wanted 4 UHD cameras setup under the rafters of the house pointing down. The absolute most efficient setup was to get a dummy switch (saved a lot) with all the cameras connected (I will never want each cam on its own VLAN nor other optional settings), have just 1 cable run down to my server closet where it connects to my non-PoE, fully managed switch. When it hits the managed switch, that's where all of the fun stuff comes into play. It's a highly expandable, smart solution.

If I want to add more cameras later (would like 6 on the first floor), I simply do the same thing, all those cams go into their own vlan port, its all connected to the NVR and I'm set. I do not need each cam on it's own VLAN but I absolutely want all the cams on a VLAN separate from everything else. No sacrifice to security, to it being connected to my smart home - it's completely solid. Even if power goes out, it has it's own cheap little power supply that'll last at least 2hrs.

By the way, there was no need for any injectors, I paid $52 open box on Amazon, the dummy switch is the most popular / highly rated - this isn't some odd ball switch and I saved a substantial amount of money.

It's a nice switch, nice company, probably the prettiest UI out there.. but I don't think many home owners will really need it.
Look at it this way. I can go to the store and buy pre-sliced deli meat for $8 a pound. But the exact same product can be made by my hands (using my time and effort and expertise) for far less money total. The question is, do I value my time and effort MORE than the difference in price? You better believe it!

You are right - one can save some green by using a "dumb" switch, or even an off-brand or other name "Smart" switch. You may well be able to replicate the features and network build of the Ubiquiti / UniFi setup. But it will take more effort, and be difficult to manage and administer, than such a setup. The real magic of the Ubiquiti gear (and don't get me wrong - it's fantastic gear) is the software. After all, Ubiquiti is basically re-envisioning networking as a "service" rather than merely a hardware box ("Software-Defined Networking"). UniFi is hands down the easiest central management/administration for a network one could ask for. A full Ubiquiti setup is tough to replicate (or approximate) on functionality - let alone interface and ease of administration. Are there other centralized management systems? Many. Do others have similar feature sets and offer similar capabilities? For the most part, yes. But do the others roll it all together in a simple package? Nope. And they all charge ridiculous ongoing fees for service contracts and "licenses" to boot -- if that functionality is even available.

Whether you use Ubiquiti gear or not, choose UniFi or not...definitely don't discount VLANs. You talk about using "one cable" for everything --- that's exactly the point of a VLAN. Just saying. VLANs are a great security and administration method and should not be discounted out of hand. There are plenty of cheaper switches and routers which support VLANs beyond Ubiquiti - you just have to work harder to get it all setup and operating between devices and network segments. Whether that's worth saving the money is up to you and what your time is worth.
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I have this, along with the USG and the AP-Pro. The reason I bought it was to get rid of the need to have the PoE injector for the AP-Pro.

First thing to say, this switch is awesome. I also have the EdgeRouter X SFP and the EdgeRouter Lite, and the USG/US8-150W/AP-Pro combination is WAY nicer to setup. I was able to get all my firewall rules, port forwards for things, and such done in VERY minimal time.

The second thing I will say is that this thing is HUGE!!! From the picture I thought it would be about the same size as my Trendnet 8-port switch, but it's like way WAY bigger. If I had to estimate, picture you normal 8-port unmanaged switch, now picture something that is 2-3x wider, 6-7 longer, and at least as deep as 2 stacked together.

Last, if you are trying to mount this know that it does NOT have mount holes on the bottom. It comes with wings you can screw into the sides for like a rack setup, but there is no way to mount the thing from the bottom. I guess you could put the wings on facing down, but not sure how that would work. I ended up putting the wings on and using zip-ties to "mount" it to my wiring closet.
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