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Femi NG120XL ABS - $1080

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I realize this might have a very limited appeal, but posting anyway. Femi portable band saws are considered to be pretty good (hey, Ave-the-crazy Canadian owns one!). NG120 ABS seems to be the model to go, but costs about $1480 from trick-tools or ebay. Browsing ebay, I found a listing in UK for GBP 799 ($1100) with a shipping available to US. I requested the quote from the guy and the total with shipping was actually cheaper than the listing price due to no UK tax (VAT).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FEMI-NG1...Sw5cRZJrfW

I went a step further and requested a quote directly from their company, stakesys. The total was about 10% lower due to no ebay fees.

https://www.stakesys.co.uk/metal-...w-110-volt

It took stakesys a couple of days to ship the saw due to them being out for an expo, but when they did - it was delivered two days later by UPS, with a normal tracking number. Faster than Amazon Prime Smilie

My total quote come out to around $1000, though I had to pay about $35 in Paypal foreign credit card transaction fee (would be $5 if I used a checking account) and $35 in customs fees payed directly to UPS. My final was around $1080 (that's $400 lower than trick-tools), but could probably be about $40 lower had I paid directly with a credit card or through payapal with a bank account.


https://www.stakesys.co.uk/metal-...w-110-volt
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Ave uses one? So this thing is skookum, eh?
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And then comes the question of possibly hard to find parts... or maybe it isn't. Why is this better than an equavalent jet?
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Thumbs for a good tool deal, I don't have use for one but appreciate you taking the time to share a good deal.
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Ave uses one? So this thing is skookum, eh?
Hard to tell, but it sure chooches!
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And then comes the question of possibly hard to find parts... or maybe it isn't. Why is this better than an equavalent jet?
Jet does not make one, though Wen does, as does Grizzly and Trajan. My close second would be Baileigh BS-127P though. Femi one is supposedly lighter, made in Italy vs Taiwan, and most importantly - cuts straight every time. Being unable to adjust Wen to cut straight is one of the main complains on Amazon.

It also has an auto-lowering feature which is nice if you are an ocd-type. Why Italy? Well, they make MiniMax band saws that are awesome too, so they should know a thing or two about making them.

The venerable HazardFraught band saw is similar in dimensions, costs only $200 with a coupon, but is heavier. I was about to buy one this New Year with a 30% off when the employee rolled out the last one to a guy in front me. Anyhow, HF saw is heavier and it looks as if it is going to fall apart and give you cancer in the same time! That said, there are plenty of forums that explain how to run HF saw into a workable machine. My favorite one is to use a chop stick to pick out casting sand from the gear box that was painted over without cleaning Smilie

Finding parts is going to be tough regardless of the manufacturer. I'm sure it's possible to find them for Femi - it comes with a detailed diagram down to the wiring of the switches and the motor. Shipping is going cost though.
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Jet does not make one, though Wen does, as does Grizzly and Trajan. My close second would be Baileigh BS-127P though. Femi one is supposedly lighter, made in Italy vs Taiwan, and most importantly - cuts straight every time. Being unable to adjust Wen to cut straight is one of the main complains on Amazon.

It also has an auto-lowering feature which is nice if you are an ocd-type. Why Italy? Well, they make MiniMax band saws that are awesome too, so they should know a thing or two about making them.

The venerable HazardFraught band saw is similar in dimensions, costs only $200 with a coupon, but is heavier. I was about to buy one this New Year with a 30% off when the employee rolled out the last one to a guy in front me. Anyhow, HF saw is heavier and it looks as if it is going to fall apart and give you cancer in the same time! That said, there are plenty of forums that explain how to run HF saw into a workable machine. My favorite one is to use a chop stick to pick out casting sand from the gear box that was painted over without cleaning Smilie

Finding parts is going to be tough regardless of the manufacturer. I'm sure it's possible to find them for Femi - it comes with a detailed diagram down to the wiring of the switches and the motor. Shipping is going cost though.
I've got a Chinese copy band saw that the table broke of off before I got it home. Cheesy little cast potmetal, maybe .080 thick, you could break it with your fingers, and you guys were right about parts, I was told that the Grizzly one came from the same mfr , I called Grizzly, the engineer I talked to said, "Yeah, probably..." , but he didn't know which one and had no way to measure theirs to see if mine were the same. So instead of buying the same cheesy trunions under the table, I got a 4 1/2 sq. piece of 6061 and made some that will never break again. Same story on the blade tensioner, piece of cast crappy metal, made a new one (it broke also). Good thing I have a lathe and mill.
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I've got a Chinese copy band saw that the table broke of off before I got it home. Cheesy little cast potmetal, maybe .080 thick, you could break it with your fingers, and you guys were right about parts, I was told that the Grizzly one came from the same mfr , I called Grizzly, the engineer I talked to said, "Yeah, probably..." , but he didn't know which one and had no way to measure theirs to see if mine were the same. So instead of buying the same cheesy trunions under the table, I got a 4 1/2 sq. piece of 6061 and made some that will never break again. Same story on the blade tensioner, piece of cast crappy metal, made a new one (it broke also). Good thing I have a lathe and mill.
Isn't it awesome when you can machine your own replacement parts?! Smilie
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Isn't it awesome when you can machine your own replacement parts?! Smilie
It is. I'm machinist/tool maker in the Defense Industry. I suppose I should have a better band saw, preferably American Made (the job I save just might be my own!), but I couldn't pass this deal up, and it works pretty good on wood and most aluminum, but goes a bit too fast for steel, and way too fast for stainless steel, even on the slowest speed, I guess I could put a smaller set of pulleys in it, or buy better blades, or both.
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Careful: if you buy in UK, it may very well be 220v or 240V, with their ridiculously gigantic plug... meaning motor and power transformer for any electronic boards would have to be swapped, or you'd have to have a good voltage transformer (powerful enough, good enough quality, and protected enough to not burn down your house) permanently attached to the saw.

Not really worth the hassle...
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Careful: if you buy in UK, it may very well be 220v or 240V, with their ridiculously gigantic plug... meaning motor and power transformer for any electronic boards would have to be swapped, or you'd have to have a good voltage transformer (powerful enough, good enough quality, and protected enough to not burn down your house) permanently attached to the saw.

Not really worth the hassle...
Fair point. The site lists two versions, 110v and 220v, so I just got the 110v one. Mine came with what I would describe a 'DIY' plug - one of those 2-pice replacement plugs that you can get from Home Depot. This is the only non-factory looking feature I can find on the saw. So I guess they fit a correct plug based on the country they are shipping to. But then again, I don't really know how the plug looks on the ones sold by trick-tools, so this might be the 'factory' way anyway.

The motor itself has an adjustable speed. I suspect that it would happily run on either 110v or 220v, just at a different speed range. Of course, the question is whether the speed marks on the rheostat are correct for 110v, that is - whether the baseline was actually adjusted for the 110v. I have not checked that yet.
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