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Following the Meltdown and Spectre debacle, I wonder if prices will start to drop on these as those in the market start considering a switch to Ryzen.

Even post patch(es), Intel appears to hold a performance lead for consumer use so I'm still considering it, but now I'm thinking about waiting for the second gen Ryzen chips that are due out in April.
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great price considering I paid 360 for the non K version on november
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great price considering I paid 360 for the non K version on november
It's a good price, but four days ago it went FP for $330 shipped:
https://slickdeals.net/f/11175331-intel-core-i7-8700k-coffee-lake-3-7-ghz-lga-1151-processor-330-free-s-h?v=1
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It's a good price, but four days ago it went FP for $330 shipped:
https://slickdeals.net/f/11175331-intel-core-i7-8700k-coffee-lake-3-7-ghz-lga-1151-processor-330-free-s-h?v=1
Yeah exactly. Mine is in the mail. Smilie
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I've been using my i7 2600 for like 6 years now and it's still blazing fast. I don't think I will be needing an cpu upgrade for another good 6+ years or so.
All depends on what you use it for... doesn't sound like you play the latest/greatest games on high quality setting or do cpu-intensive tasks like video editing. If you did, you would not get by on a 2nd gen i7. I have 3rd and 4th gen i7's and they hold their own for most tasks, but not when playing the latest games on high quality...
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Following the Meltdown and Spectre debacle, I wonder if prices will start to drop on these as those in the market start considering a switch to Ryzen.

Even post patch(es), Intel appears to hold a performance lead for consumer use so I'm still considering it, but now I'm thinking about waiting for the second gen Ryzen chips that are due out in April.
Agree... prices are too volatile right now, so waiting game is best. I see only 2 buyers of this cpu so far... not that hot of a daily deal
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AMD not being vulnerable to Meltdown, plus 8 cores, cheaper, more PCIe lanes, cheaper motherboards = better deal than 8700K

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Following the Meltdown and Spectre debacle, I wonder if prices will start to drop on these as those in the market start considering a switch to Ryzen.

Even post patch(es), Intel appears to hold a performance lead for consumer use so I'm still considering it, but now I'm thinking about waiting for the second gen Ryzen chips that are due out in April.
There is no reason to. The Meltdown patch that came out in Windows has the same negative effect on write speed regardless of what CPU you have. Spectre will be patched at the BIOS level and the 8700 K even after that patch is testing stronger than the ryzen 7. Also worth noting AMD does not have any patch out for Spectre yet

I'm honestly happy that ryzen exists because it forces competition and it's the first time....well ....ever amd has made a competitive product. that said there is a pretty large Oddity with AMD. If you read the majority of one star reviews on practically any computer part they are almost all from AMD related things. one star reviews often start with my ryzen or my FX. it could be anything from Ram to CPU coolers
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There is no reason to. The Meltdown patch that came out in Windows has the same negative effect on write speed regardless of what CPU you have. Spectre will be patched at the BIOS level and the 8700 K even after that patch is testing stronger than the ryzen 7. Also worth noting AMD does not have any patch out for Spectre yet

I'm honestly happy that ryzen exists because it forces competition and it's the first time....well ....ever amd has made a competitive product. that said there is a pretty large Oddity with AMD. If you read the majority of one star reviews on practically any computer part they are almost all from AMD related things. one star reviews often start with my ryzen or my FX. it could be anything from Ram to CPU coolers
For CPU intensive task its very good but for IO intensive like VM's its really bad on intel right now. And AMD is NOT affected by meltdown stop posting bullshit. Yes windows Page Table Isolation is on all CPU at this point. Linux has been smarter about it and has not applied a meltdown fix for CPU's that don't require it. I don't see why Microsoft will continue to use PTI for CPU's that don't require it in the future. If all you use your cpu for is gaming Intel is still the way to go. If you run vmware or vitualbox for work its total shit. TLDR get it for gaming don't get it for work.
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For CPU intensive task its very good but for IO intensive like VM's its really bad on intel right now. And AMD is NOT affected by meltdown stop posting bullshit. Yes windows Page Table Isolation is on all CPU at this point. Linux has been smarter about it and has not applied a meltdown fix for CPU's that don't require it. I don't see why Microsoft will continue to use PTI for CPU's that don't require it in the future. If all you use your cpu for is gaming Intel is still the way to go. If you run vmware or vitualbox for work its total shit. TLDR get it for gaming don't get it for work.
Are you not able to read English? I never said anything about AMD being affected by meltdown. I said the performance of AMD is affected by meltdown because the patch in Windows affects the write speed of the hard drive. Had you actually tested these things you would know this. meltdown is an extremely minor problem that has already been addressed. The real issue is Spectre and we know what to expect from Intel with that but we have no idea what AMD is going to do about it
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The last computer I built was an i7 3700k with an Asus P8ZZ7 motherboard so it's really outdated now.

I haven't followed computer hardware trends in many years. If I get the i7 8700k what is a good chipset/motherboard to go with it?
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Are you not able to read English? I never said anything about AMD being affected by meltdown. I said the performance of AMD is affected by meltdown because the patch in Windows affects the write speed of the hard drive. Had you actually tested these things you would know this. meltdown is an extremely minor problem that has already been addressed. The real issue is Spectre and we know what to expect from Intel with that but we have no idea what AMD is going to do about it
Chill out dude no one is attacking you. And I said why would microsoft apply PTI to AMD processors if they're not affected. They're going to roll it back in the future. I already thumbs up the deal alright its good. I'm just pointing out that INTEL is not adressing meltdown or spectre and their microcode patches are shit. The meltdown workaround (pti) is causing intel processors to take a huge performance hit if they do heavy IO: ie vm's or networking or disks. Here's the dude who created linux on those patches: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/22...r-garbage/ . And yeah I get it most people on slick deals don't use linux, but if you happen to use it for work keep those bugs in mind because after the lawsuits and pr hits these processor may go even lower and the deals that are slick today are going to look real bad tomorrow.
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Chill out dude no one is attacking you. And I said why would microsoft apply PTI to AMD processors if they're not affected. They're going to roll it back in the future. I already thumbs up the deal alright its good. I'm just pointing out that INTEL is not adressing meltdown or spectre and their microcode patches are shit. The meltdown workaround (pti) is causing intel processors to take a huge performance hit if they do heavy IO: ie vm's or networking or disks. Here's the dude who created linux on those patches: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/22...r-garbage/ . And yeah I get it most people on slick deals don't use linux, but if you happen to use it for work keep those bugs in mind because after the lawsuits and pr hits these processor may go even lower and the deals that are slick today are going to look real bad tomorrow.
They are going to keep refining the patches. The Meltdown patch is honestly no big deal for anyone that is not running a server. The only thing I noticed it affecting was 4K Write times. Benchmarks like PassMark were testing between 1 and 3% lower. Again it's pretty negligible. They are most likely going to have a more refined product in the future especially regarding the BIOS to address Spectre. As far as meltdown goes I would not get your hopes up about a separate Windows patch. In the history of Microsoft they have never done such a thing. Really the bottom line is this meltdown Spectre thing is completely overblown for the average person. It might be an issue for Server Farms as the Slowdown is going to be a lot more noticeable with those 4K read-write Cycles. I would imagine in the future even that will be improved. It's going to be years before before we see a new CPU architecture from either company. Effective patches are pretty much mandatory at this point
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