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SSD Prices, Video Card Prices, Ram prices are stupid high! These tech companies making us pay double for old crap!

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When is this crap ever going down in price. Got my asus gtx1070 laptop with i7 7700 on slickdeal for $930 recently but can't even upgrade to an ssd at reasonable cost. SSDs just last Christmas cost you $100 for a 1TB SSD. Now they want $260 for 1TB SSD? What a sick joke.

GTX1070 desktop card last year you could find for $350...now they want over $900 on newegg, basically the same cost of my gtx1070 laptop.

16GB DDR4 ram cost last year was around $80. Now they want $180!

The whole "supply and demand" junk is a bunch of bull. I don't buy it. I think these tech companies are just a bunch of greedy mofos milking consumers rather than innovating and making their stuff faster. I don't mind paying for next gen stuff that is faster, but these fraudulent companies are making you pay twice as much for old crap!
Created 02-03-2018 at 01:27 PM by Trifectah
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Why the TD? It's a good rant.

I think it has to do with the crypto currencies, everyone's rushing in to mine them, jacking up the price for hardware.
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These tech companies making us pay double for old crap? You can either wait till they drop, or wait for a sale. You should probably re-word your post. They are not 'making' you pay for anything. How about 'These tech companies asking us to pay double for old crap'. Dodge wanted $29,500 for a '17 Dodge Charger. I waited and bought my wife's for $21,500. Also, if these tech companies are just a bunch of greedy mofos milking consumers as you say, why were they so cheap last year? If these companies did not exist, you would still be playing jacks and marbles instead of typing on your computer, tablet, or cell phone.
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Yeah supply and demand is such fake news...can't believe they teach it in basic economics...
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Yeah supply and demand is such fake news...can't believe they teach it in basic economics...
laugh out loud OP is such a whiny child
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wait it out or use notifications for gpu
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This has zero to do with supply and demand and all about rigging the system for profit just like Wall Street. The only people that think it's all fair game are the patsies who love to defend them.
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This has zero to do with supply and demand and all about rigging the system for profit just like Wall Street. The only people that think it's all fair game are the patsies who love to defend them.
You have no understanding of what's going on in the market right now. Your ignorance is showing.
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. SSDs just last Christmas cost you $100 for a 1TB SSD. Now they want $260 for 1TB SSD? What a sick joke.
Why not just buy during Christmas. You learn certain products have a good time to buy. TV's best prices are Christmas holidays, and before the Super Bowl. Car's you buy at the end of the model year. ETC
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Two choices.

1. Don't buy it now or
2. Buy it now and wait to get some money back via a future class action lawsuit 10 years later
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The situation sucks as a consumer, so OP's frustration is totally understandable, despite the questionable accusations.

The high prices for components can readily be explained by supply and demand imbalance. As joeg9897 noted, crypto mining is absorbing all the graphics cards. This drains all the supply until the cost per unit exceeds the productivity of the card in mining terms. So until crypto comes crashing down, you're basically paying for the high value of cryptocurrencies when you use a graphics card to play games...
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/cryptocurrency-boom-creates-insane-global-graphics-card-... [arstechnica.com]

On memory parts, this article covers it nicely [eetimes.com]. Supply is indeed coming down, despite investment in mfg capacity, because the scaling of memory is moving from exponential to linear (that is, instead of smaller feature sizes, manufacturers are adding layers to increase capacity). This is largely driven by semiconductor physics, so it's not lack of competition which is lowering supply, but really the inability to scale. Either way, prices are going to move up and will unlikely come back down unless there is some new breakthrough storage tech or demand for memory craters.
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I thought you'd be getting a fat tax cut? Oh wait, I guess if you did you wouldn't have to complain over a few hundred bucks...
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The situation sucks as a consumer, so OP's frustration is totally understandable, despite the questionable accusations.

The high prices for components can readily be explained by supply and demand imbalance. As joeg9897 noted, crypto mining is absorbing all the graphics cards. This drains all the supply until the cost per unit exceeds the productivity of the card in mining terms. So until crypto comes crashing down, you're basically paying for the high value of cryptocurrencies when you use a graphics card to play games...
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/cryptocurrency-boom-creates-insane-global-graphics-card-... [arstechnica.com]

On memory parts, this article covers it nicely [eetimes.com]. Supply is indeed coming down, despite investment in mfg capacity, because the scaling of memory is moving from exponential to linear (that is, instead of smaller feature sizes, manufacturers are adding layers to increase capacity). This is largely driven by semiconductor physics, so it's not lack of competition which is lowering supply, but really the inability to scale. Either way, prices are going to move up and will unlikely come back down unless there is some new breakthrough storage tech or demand for memory craters.
Sounds like the same excuses I hear from oil companies. Oh and when oil prices went down once there was a surplus, Grocery prices magically stayed the same regardless.

You can cry supply and demand all you want. There are big players that can control the system and create shortages, and manipulate the supply so that it is most profitable for them. That is something the schoolboys here were not taught in class.

It's not just the mining boom effecting graphics cards, or ram shortages however, look at mechanical hard drives. Prices on those have also 'ryzen' without any real explanation other than...they can. Like I said I don't mind paying more so long as there is innovation involved, but if you give me the supply and demand excuse...which can easily be manipulated by the big players involved to suit their profitability...I call it rigged.

Yes ultimately the consumer decides whether to buy or not. If consumers stop buying prices will go down. But technology in today's society is becoming as necessary as food, water, and oil. How many people could seriously go one year without the internet? Think about it.
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Just as there is a correlation between gold and silver, high prices on SSD would cause HDD to go higher as well. Everyone has an agenda to make profit for themselves. You can choose not to play the game or play it better. But we've tried changing the system, it's called North Korea. Look how well that turned out.
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Sounds like the same excuses I hear from oil companies. Oh and when oil prices went down once there was a surplus, Grocery prices magically stayed the same regardless.

You can cry supply and demand all you want. There are big players that can control the system and create shortages, and manipulate the supply so that it is most profitable for them. That is something the schoolboys here were not taught in class.

It's not just the mining boom effecting graphics cards, or ram shortages however, look at mechanical hard drives. Prices on those have also 'ryzen' without any real explanation other than...they can. Like I said I don't mind paying more so long as there is innovation involved, but if you give me the supply and demand excuse...which can easily be manipulated by the big players involved to suit their profitability...I call it rigged.

Yes ultimately the consumer decides whether to buy or not. If consumers stop buying prices will go down. But technology in today's society is becoming as necessary as food, water, and oil. How many people could seriously go one year without the internet? Think about it.
^^ Child who believes in conspiracy theories. Makes no sense what you are saying. GPU manufacturers are trying to meet the the demand and would love to sell as many cards as possible. You cannot blame distributors who are raising the prices, it is purely supply and demand. If they don't, any joe schmo would be buying at retail and flipping on ebay in massive quantities (and in fact, that is already happening). I am not happy about the prices, but your rant is misinformed and makes you look woefully ignorant.
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