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Normally retails for 479.99, Awesome home camera system for a price much lower than usual.

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Great catch that's the lowest I have seen it.
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Question, is it worth upgrading to the Pro 2 models? Does anyone know if it's easier reading license plates at 1080p?

Maybe I can just replace the two cameras out front, works with same base I think.
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Question, is it worth upgrading to the Pro 2 models? Does anyone know if it's easier reading license plates at 1080p?

Maybe I can just replace the two cameras out front, works with same base I think.
I would just add a new pro 2 camera. Base is the same.
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I'm debating if I should get this or the regular pro version.
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Question, is it worth upgrading to the Pro 2 models? Does anyone know if it's easier reading license plates at 1080p?

Maybe I can just replace the two cameras out front, works with same base I think.
Works with same base and based on reviews it's night and day difference from 720 to 1080. Cuts down a lot on pixelation. You can just move the 720 cameras to another location. 1080 cameras are compatible with the 720 base. Shouldn't have to replace it. May just look for the cameras themselves instead of the whole bundle.
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I'm debating if I should get this or the regular pro version.
YouTube some videos on the original pro. A lot of complaints on video quality. That's why the pro 2 came out higher res
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Bought one. Thanks. Rep
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YouTube some videos on the original pro. A lot of complaints on video quality. That's why the pro 2 came out higher res
True but the price difference is what I'm looking at. And I think that's due to positioning the camera wrong or in the vicinity of heavy foot traffic or facing the street. Mine would be for back driveway.
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True but the price difference is what I'm looking at. And I think that's due to positioning the camera wrong or in the vicinity of heavy foot traffic or facing the street. Mine would be for back driveway.
Night time quality is your biggest concern. During the day in good lighting it shouldn't be an issue. Use your phone and record a video in 720p at night and then again in 1080p. Then play them back on your TV or phone. 720 will pixelate a lot more. When it comes to identifying someone you'll want the best quality possible. Little more now could save you a lot later. In the end it's all your choice.
If you plan on using it wireless then quality is only difference. Plugged in the arlo 2 comes with a lot more customization
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Question, is it worth upgrading to the Pro 2 models? Does anyone know if it's easier reading license plates at 1080p?

Maybe I can just replace the two cameras out front, works with same base I think.
Hi Hunting

Q: Is it easier to read plates with the Arlo Pro 2 1080p?
A: Yes,...

However, as the Arlo cameras have very wide FOV their ID and plate reading potential are short range.

Here's the calculated distance in feet to 100 pixels per foot - this is what you will need for a good chance at a facial ID.

For a license plate, iirc it is 80 ppf - so reading a plate straight on you can do it at another 25% of the range listed.

Arlo Pro / Arlo Go / Netgear Flexpower HD camera 720p at 130 degress: 5.644 feet { 36.12 sq feet covered }
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Arlo Q / Arlo Q plus 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro 2 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }

This is theoretical based on H FOV and H resolution, in practice the range is reduced - especially at night.

so, 1.25x 8.47 feet = 10.6 feet

If you need to read plates significantly beyond that you will need a different camera.

Ref: https://slickdeals.net/f/10409612-lorex-dahua-oem-6x-4k-8mp-security-camera-system-w-8-port-poe-ip-nvr-2tb-hdd-kit-at-costco-b-m-ymmv-for-799-99

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Night time quality is your biggest concern..When it comes to identifying someone you'll want the best quality possible. Little more now could save you a lot later. In the end it's all your choice.
If you plan on using it wireless then quality is only difference. Plugged in the arlo 2 comes with a lot more customization
Hi CroVlado,

Indeed, the Arlo Pro 2 when plugged into power does a LOT better....

Though at that point, there are a lot better options once you start to wire up your cameras if you need a good chance to ID suspects and cars.
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Thanks OP! Had some bestbuy GC and reward zone points to burn. Able to price match.
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Hi Hunting

Q: Is it easier to read plates with the Arlo Pro 2 1080p?
A: Yes,...

However, as the Arlo cameras have very wide FOV their ID and plate reading potential are short range.

Here's the calculated distance in feet to 100 pixels per foot - this is what you will need for a good chance at a facial ID.

For a license plate, iirc it is 80 ppf - so reading a plate straight on you can do it at another 25% of the range listed.

Arlo Pro / Arlo Go / Netgear Flexpower HD camera 720p at 130 degress: 5.644 feet { 36.12 sq feet covered }
..
Arlo Q / Arlo Q plus 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro 2 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }

This is theoretical based on H FOV and H resolution, in practice the range is reduced - especially at night.

so, 1.25x 8.47 feet = 10.6 feet

If you need to read plates significantly beyond that you will need a different camera.

Ref: https://slickdeals.net/f/10409612-lorex-dahua-oem-6x-4k-8mp-security-camera-system-w-8-port-poe-ip-nvr-2tb-hdd-kit-at-costco-b-m-ymmv-for-799-99



Hi CroVlado,

Indeed, the Arlo Pro 2 when plugged into power does a LOT better....

Though at that point, there are a lot better options once you start to wire up your cameras if you need a good chance to ID suspects and cars.
Super useful thank you!

Why does the Pro 2 do much better when plugged into power?
Does that eliminate the motion detection delay?

I used to have the Pro (1st gen), loved the app, camera form factor and even autonomy but the quality and the 4.5 sec delay for motion detection (thus defeated by someone running or moving quickly) made me get rid of them.
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Super useful thank you!

Why does the Pro 2 do much better when plugged into power?
Does that eliminate the motion detection delay?

I used to have the Pro (1st gen), loved the app, camera form factor and even autonomy but the quality and the 4.5 sec delay for motion detection (thus defeated by someone running or moving quickly) made me get rid of them.
Hi Toys,

When the Arlo Pro 2 is wired to power it can be recording 24/7 - thus when it detects motion it can include some of the seconds before the motion was detected to include into the clip - in effect dealing with a motion detection lag issues.

Also, with wired power you can then not worry about the IR lights draining battery power at night - so you should in theory see better low light performance also as you can design the camera with less worries about power usage.

Note - the cloud service does still have outages and lag associated with it as well as base station to camera disconnections at times, so even with wired power for the Arlo Pro 2 there's still a lot of issues with reliability with the entire setup.

( note - I also got rid of my Arlos due to issues. )
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