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Great product at a price. Pair this with a USG and an AP Pro for an excellent setup for Gigabit FiOS.
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I have been trying to slowly build my Unifi home setup, but am stuck on the switch. I plan to install at least three POE cameras, but probably more over time, and at least two Unifi APs. That has me at 5 ports at a minimum.

I want to step up to the 16 port but it almost never seems to be on sale and it also is still 150 Watt, so that gives you an average of 9 watt per port versus 18 with an 8 port. Granted I probably won't fill all 15 (not counting uplink) ports with POE devices.

If the switches are going to stay in the same area, think it's better to just hold off for a 16 port, or take the chance with an 8 port and get another 8 port later? I feel the 16 makes way more sense, especially as it would mean I won't need a second switch for non-POE connections, but don't want to overlook something.
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I have been trying to slowly build my Unifi home setup, but am stuck on the switch. I plan to install at least three POE cameras, but probably more over time, and at least two Unifi APs. That has me at 5 ports at a minimum.

I want to step up to the 16 port but it almost never seems to be on sale and it also is still 150 Watt, so that gives you an average of 9 watt per port versus 18 with an 8 port. Granted I probably won't fill all 15 (not counting uplink) ports with POE devices.

If the switches are going to stay in the same area, think it's better to just hold off for a 16 port, or take the chance with an 8 port and get another 8 port later? I feel the 16 makes way more sense, especially as it would mean I won't need a second switch for non-POE connections, but don't want to overlook something.
May as well just pay the $300 for the 16 port, rather than $400 for 2 of the 8 ports...especially since it sounds like you're gonna use more than 8 once you start adding more devices.
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May as well just pay the $300 for the 16 port, rather than $400 for 2 of the 8 ports...especially since it sounds like you're gonna use more than 8 once you start adding more devices.
Yeah... that was my thought as well. Just haven't messed with POE switches hardly at all, so wanted to be sure I wasn't overlooking something when it comes to sizing the switch power capacity versus demand.

It seems the cameras I am looking at are 5-8 watts, and the AP is rated at 7 Watt when not using POE Passthrough, so it seems I should have pretty healthy overhead even with the 150/16.

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Yeah... that was my thought as well. Just haven't messed with POE switches hardly at all, so wanted to be sure I wasn't overlooking something when it comes to sizing the switch power capacity versus demand.

It seems the cameras I am looking at are 5-8 watts, and the AP is rated at 7 Watt when not using POE Passthrough, so it seems I should have pretty healthy overhead even with the 150/16.

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The 16 will give you plenty of power. I'm running 7 camera's, 2 AP's and a cloud key off mine. I have 2 more cameras which I am waiting to set up but tested them both on the switch for a total of 9 cameras.

I am actually moving up to the 24 port after having the 16 for barely a year... You always end up needing more ports for some damn reason....
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Great product at a price. Pair this with a USG and an AP Pro for an excellent setup for Gigabit FiOS.
Exactly the setup I have, except with two AP's. It's a big house. Thank goodness my friends are NetSec/DevOps folks who steered me in the right direction.
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2x 8-ports gives you more available power
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I have been trying to slowly build my Unifi home setup, but am stuck on the switch. I plan to install at least three POE cameras, but probably more over time, and at least two Unifi APs. That has me at 5 ports at a minimum.

I want to step up to the 16 port but it almost never seems to be on sale and it also is still 150 Watt, so that gives you an average of 9 watt per port versus 18 with an 8 port. Granted I probably won't fill all 15 (not counting uplink) ports with POE devices.

If the switches are going to stay in the same area, think it's better to just hold off for a 16 port, or take the chance with an 8 port and get another 8 port later? I feel the 16 makes way more sense, especially as it would mean I won't need a second switch for non-POE connections, but don't want to overlook something.
well you're not paying $400 for 2 - that would be the point
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May as well just pay the $300 for the 16 port, rather than $400 for 2 of the 8 ports...especially since it sounds like you're gonna use more than 8 once you start adding more devices.
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Great product at a price. Pair this with a USG and an AP Pro for an excellent setup for Gigabit FiOS.
Does their USG provide any application layer firewall (deep packet inspection) or just traditional firewall?
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The 16 will give you plenty of power. I'm running 7 camera's, 2 AP's and a cloud key off mine. I have 2 more cameras which I am waiting to set up but tested them both on the switch for a total of 9 cameras.

I am actually moving up to the 24 port after having the 16 for barely a year... You always end up needing more ports for some damn reason....
Haha, well if it's still in good condition at the time of upgrade keep me in mind, maybe I can help you unload the 16 port and eat up some of the 24 port cost. Big Grin
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I have been trying to slowly build my Unifi home setup, but am stuck on the switch. I plan to install at least three POE cameras, but probably more over time, and at least two Unifi APs. That has me at 5 ports at a minimum.

I want to step up to the 16 port but it almost never seems to be on sale and it also is still 150 Watt, so that gives you an average of 9 watt per port versus 18 with an 8 port. Granted I probably won't fill all 15 (not counting uplink) ports with POE devices.

If the switches are going to stay in the same area, think it's better to just hold off for a 16 port, or take the chance with an 8 port and get another 8 port later? I feel the 16 makes way more sense, especially as it would mean I won't need a second switch for non-POE connections, but don't want to overlook something.
Are you rack mounting them? Is fanless a requirement? Other folks have raised good points for your situation but left out those main points. The 16 is large and not quiet. Fine if you rack mount it outside of earshot, pain if it's sitting a foot away on a desk. Also, if you go 2x8 port then you can use the SFP ports to connect them together as well as on things that don't require POE. Depending on your situation, this may free up some ports for growth as well.
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Does their USG provide any application layer firewall (deep packet inspection) or just traditional firewall?
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The USG does indeed implement DPI, but some users with large networks are reporting that the CPU in the USG barely keeps up in a large network with DPI enabled. I would take this with a grain of salt.
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The USG does indeed implement DPI, but some users with large networks are reporting that the CPU in the USG barely keeps up in a large network with DPI enabled. I would take this with a grain of salt.
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Are you rack mounting them? Is fanless a requirement? Other folks have raised good points for your situation but left out those main points. The 16 is large and not quiet. Fine if you rack mount it outside of earshot, pain if it's sitting a foot away on a desk. Also, if you go 2x8 port then you can use the SFP ports to connect them together as well as on things that don't require POE. Depending on your situation, this may free up some ports for growth as well.
I hope to eventually rack mount. I am just getting started at this house we recently moved into running network cables and that and relocating my network equipment which has been spread across a couple rooms up to now.

The equipment will be in the basement (finished) and I hope to buy a generic rack in the not-too-distant future. I don't have a requirement for fanless, but something short of a jet would be ideal as I don't know that any rack I would get would be even partially enclosed and eventually the opposite end of the basement will be a media space.

Good to know on the SFP, while I am decent when it comes to network hardware knowledge, I haven't messed with SFP ports much (or POE as mentioned) as I haven't stepped up to that level yet at home. Part of why I want to go this route is to learn so maybe taking that approach will be good.

Thanks very much!
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Depending on your total number of PoE ports required in combo with your other normal ports, if you are running multiple switches (one PoE and one non) you could just use the injectors if its only a port or two.

I opted for a 24 port switch, and this 8 port PoE, if I need an additional port or two, I will just use from the 24 with an injector. Linking together with SFP is easy enough and is about a 15 dollar cable at most. Frees up a port for you as well.
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