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This 3,098 piece set features printed details, working LED warp nacelle lights, ship display stand and more.

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I bought this during the last SD for a similar price. It's pretty good quality (similar to Lego) but the real difference is in the instructions and how the bags are assembled. In Lego sets, you open one bag and a time and build small components before assembling them together into the larger set. Megablocks organizes their bags by types of block. In practice, this means opening almost every bag and having 3000+ pieces spread out on the floor, often having to physically get up and walk 4-5 ft just to find the piece you need. This set took me almost 9 hours to build when I'm sure Lego would take me half that due to the organization. (Similar piece-count Lego sets have taken me 4-5 hrs).

Overall, I still recommend it because it looks awesome...just be prepared to be frustrated during the build.
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My son loves Halo and Military block kits, so we have multiple Mega Bloks kits. A few years ago they made a huge jump in quality with their Collector's Series kits (so no, the Minions licensed kits occasionally have serious problems, but that seems to be improving too). Brick wise the only disadvantage is that the bricks are sometimes a little tighter, so when you are talking a 500 block kit with some nicely built up assemblies (versus bigger special pieces) his little hands can get tired. The good side of this is that often the Mega Bloks kits hold up better in rough play than the Lego ones.

Here is a video from Jangbricks from 2014 when Mega Bloks finally got their bricks right. He shows how good they are, starting at around 35 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpFpxDDYCdE



Your criticism is right on, but one problem is going to change. Lego patented having numbered bags for parts in building block sets. IMHO I've read the original and it's a pretty bogus patent, but Lego aggressively uses the courts even when they cannot win so all the other brick makers often won't take a chance. The patent should have just expired last year, so hopefully other companies will start doing it. FYI my son and I just presort everything. The various Harbor Freight part storage boxes are excellent, and you can get them on sale periodically.

The instructions criticism is spot on, and that is solely Mega Bloks problem. There are three problems:

1) Combining 3-4 pages of instructions on one page. On the Halo Wraith my son and I just did, we each made one error we had to backtrack and redo. If you make an error, though, it is usually obvious within one or two steps.

The bigger problem is that by combining the steps, sometimes placement is masked by the 3/4 view. That can be a real problem. However, both of us have learned to peak at the next step and it usually becomes pretty obvious exactly what you need to do. It probably slows down assembly by 5-10%.

2) Sub-assemblies. Sometimes Mega Bloks is very linear and you can figure out a better way to put it together. However, this also happens because they do a wonderful job a building up assemblies from multiple very useful pieces. It give them more versatility than a typical Lego kit for parts. They used to use a lot of big specialty pieces, but since they went to the Collectors series you build up a LOT more assemblies, and they usually look darn good.

3) Colors. Mega Bloks has some of the best mixed color pieces to make their vehicles and terrain look less "bright plastic toy" and more like a model. For example you can a dark green, dark green with metallic flake, dark grey with metallic flake, dark grey, black with metallic flake, and black pieces. That can become brutal with middle aged eyes. You need very good light, or very good eyes (which my son has - he'll say "Dad, no that piece is one of those"). I usually just ask him if I'm not sure.

That is also a place that Mega Bloks BEATS Lego. They don't use the bright internal colors like with some of the Star Wars kits. When they peak through at certain angles, it just looks cheap. Mega Bloks will change the color on a bottom thin flat piece on the back wall of a cockpit just to make sure it looks good from any angle. Literally they included a separate 1x2 black flat instead of including one more 1x2 dark grey flat. That may not sound like much, but do that in 20 different spots and you can see the difference. The various shades are used EXTREMELY well, and really contribute to the finished look. So that's the plus side of the color issue. If Mega Bloks had a more Lego like instruction manual, this would only be a positive, but instead it's how the colors can be such a pain to figure out.



I haven't opened the box of the one we have, but when I lifted it up it seemed a bit heavier than 9.25lbs. I don't think it was 60 pounds, or even half that, but I can say the box was heavier than 10 pounds. I found a bunch of the 9 pounds claims including Jangbricks, but I found some others showing 12 pounds for the model but 16 pounds shipping weight, and that I would believe.
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I kind of want this.
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Nice! Looks pretty close to Legos.
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Nice! Looks pretty close to Legos.
I did my research before posting/purchasing it, and the quality is not as good as Legos but they are Lego compatible.

Also it seems the set is made in Canada, which I thought was quite cool because that's where Shatner's from.
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Pretty cool set. I built it with my church youth group. A couple of the kids put it together for 30 minutes a week for quite a while. These megabloks are much closer in quality to Lego than they used to be. Also--no stickers! Every block with stuff on it is printed. It's much sturdier than I thought it would be when it's together. The people aren't amazing and the lights on the end of the warp drives are not impressive, but the set as a whole is very impressive as a display piece.
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Assembled Product Weight 60 Pounds

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I did my research before posting/purchasing it, and the quality is not as good as Legos but they are Lego compatible.

Also it seems the set is made in Canada, which I thought was quite cool because that's where Shatner's from.
I bought this during the last SD for a similar price. It's pretty good quality (similar to Lego) but the real difference is in the instructions and how the bags are assembled. In Lego sets, you open one bag and a time and build small components before assembling them together into the larger set. Megablocks organizes their bags by types of block. In practice, this means opening almost every bag and having 3000+ pieces spread out on the floor, often having to physically get up and walk 4-5 ft just to find the piece you need. This set took me almost 9 hours to build when I'm sure Lego would take me half that due to the organization. (Similar piece-count Lego sets have taken me 4-5 hrs).

Overall, I still recommend it because it looks awesome...just be prepared to be frustrated during the build.
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Assembled Product Weight 60 Pounds

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Pretty sure that's a typo. Most of the YouTube reviews say 9.25lbs.
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Pretty sure that's a typo. Most of the YouTube reviews say 9.25lbs.
Yea the one on Amazon says shipping weight is 15.9 lbs
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I built this and it's magnificent. Stunning in person. I only wish the nacelle lights would stay on till you turn them off. When you press them they turn on for a few seconds but then turn off. But they bring the whole thing to life.
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I did my research before posting/purchasing it, and the quality is not as good as Legos but they are Lego compatible.

Also it seems the set is made in Canada, which I thought was quite cool because that's where Shatner's from.
My son loves Halo and Military block kits, so we have multiple Mega Bloks kits. A few years ago they made a huge jump in quality with their Collector's Series kits (so no, the Minions licensed kits occasionally have serious problems, but that seems to be improving too). Brick wise the only disadvantage is that the bricks are sometimes a little tighter, so when you are talking a 500 block kit with some nicely built up assemblies (versus bigger special pieces) his little hands can get tired. The good side of this is that often the Mega Bloks kits hold up better in rough play than the Lego ones.

Here is a video from Jangbricks from 2014 when Mega Bloks finally got their bricks right. He shows how good they are, starting at around 35 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpFpxDDYCdE

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I bought this during the last SD for a similar price. It's pretty good quality (similar to Lego) but the real difference is in the instructions and how the bags are assembled. In Lego sets, you open one bag and a time and build small components before assembling them together into the larger set. Megablocks organizes their bags by types of block. In practice, this means opening almost every bag and having 3000+ pieces spread out on the floor, often having to physically get up and walk 4-5 ft just to find the piece you need. This set took me almost 9 hours to build when I'm sure Lego would take me half that due to the organization. (Similar piece-count Lego sets have taken me 4-5 hrs).

Overall, I still recommend it because it looks awesome...just be prepared to be frustrated during the build.
Your criticism is right on, but one problem is going to change. Lego patented having numbered bags for parts in building block sets. IMHO I've read the original and it's a pretty bogus patent, but Lego aggressively uses the courts even when they cannot win so all the other brick makers often won't take a chance. The patent should have just expired last year, so hopefully other companies will start doing it. FYI my son and I just presort everything. The various Harbor Freight part storage boxes are excellent, and you can get them on sale periodically.

The instructions criticism is spot on, and that is solely Mega Bloks problem. There are three problems:

1) Combining 3-4 pages of instructions on one page. On the Halo Wraith my son and I just did, we each made one error we had to backtrack and redo. If you make an error, though, it is usually obvious within one or two steps.

The bigger problem is that by combining the steps, sometimes placement is masked by the 3/4 view. That can be a real problem. However, both of us have learned to peak at the next step and it usually becomes pretty obvious exactly what you need to do. It probably slows down assembly by 5-10%.

2) Sub-assemblies. Sometimes Mega Bloks is very linear and you can figure out a better way to put it together. However, this also happens because they do a wonderful job a building up assemblies from multiple very useful pieces. It give them more versatility than a typical Lego kit for parts. They used to use a lot of big specialty pieces, but since they went to the Collectors series you build up a LOT more assemblies, and they usually look darn good.

3) Colors. Mega Bloks has some of the best mixed color pieces to make their vehicles and terrain look less "bright plastic toy" and more like a model. For example you can a dark green, dark green with metallic flake, dark grey with metallic flake, dark grey, black with metallic flake, and black pieces. That can become brutal with middle aged eyes. You need very good light, or very good eyes (which my son has - he'll say "Dad, no that piece is one of those"). I usually just ask him if I'm not sure.

That is also a place that Mega Bloks BEATS Lego. They don't use the bright internal colors like with some of the Star Wars kits. When they peak through at certain angles, it just looks cheap. Mega Bloks will change the color on a bottom thin flat piece on the back wall of a cockpit just to make sure it looks good from any angle. Literally they included a separate 1x2 black flat instead of including one more 1x2 dark grey flat. That may not sound like much, but do that in 20 different spots and you can see the difference. The various shades are used EXTREMELY well, and really contribute to the finished look. So that's the plus side of the color issue. If Mega Bloks had a more Lego like instruction manual, this would only be a positive, but instead it's how the colors can be such a pain to figure out.

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Pretty sure that's a typo. Most of the YouTube reviews say 9.25lbs.
I haven't opened the box of the one we have, but when I lifted it up it seemed a bit heavier than 9.25lbs. I don't think it was 60 pounds, or even half that, but I can say the box was heavier than 10 pounds. I found a bunch of the 9 pounds claims including Jangbricks, but I found some others showing 12 pounds for the model but 16 pounds shipping weight, and that I would believe.
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I disagree with numbered bags and think the bags should be random. The whole point is to piece it together. Having every piece put in your hand step by step ruins it. It's like a numbered coloring book.

I guess I understand for very young children who you are trying to teach the basics of how to follow directions, but finding everything piece by piece is much more satisfying imho. I mean, if this set was LEGO it would only take a couple hours (yet cost probably $400)
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There also do appear to be issues with missing pieces, fyi. They are very good about replacing them.
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Listing price is a joke. Quite some around $100 on ebay.
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