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First PC need Anti-Virus

12 10 March 12, 2018 at 09:18 PM
I recently bought a Alienware pc from the front page and I am trying to figure out what Anti-Virus to get.

Also is there any pc or gaming forums that are good ones to check out?


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This should have been in tech support. I apologize no idea how I put it here.
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This should have been in tech support. I apologize no idea how I put it here.

No worries, I will move it there for you. In the future, you can just hit the mod alert button for stuff like that Smilie
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Avg or avast are great and free. They'll bug you constantly to buy though.
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You don't need to pay or use additional software. Use the built in Microsoft AV in Windows 10, keep the system updated, don't install random software you don't recognize or seek out yourself, and don't run as an administrator for your daily driver account (Escalate when you explicitly need to). Good computing practices will go a long ways. Scanning with Malwarebytes Free every once and a while is fine.
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You don't need to pay or use additional software. Use the built in Microsoft AV in Windows 10, keep the system updated, don't install random software you don't recognize or seek out yourself, and don't run as an administrator for your daily driver account (Escalate when you explicitly need to). Good computing practices will go a long ways. Scanning with Malwarebytes Free every once and a while is fine.

MS AV\Defender, while better with Win 10, still comes up short when compared to Norton or Bitdefender or some of the other name products out there imo. Considering you can periodically get Norton for near free\a few dollars a license after rebate, I would go with it.

As to the point that if you practice good computing practices, the need for high end IS software lessens, that may be true but you do not want to be in the position even by accident. Plus few people can guarantee their PC is not going to be used by someone else in the family who may not be so diligent. It is just a good idea to ratchet up the protection where you can imo.

My 2 cents.
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
I don't mind paying for something that is good.
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
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Well if you can, buy the Malwarebytes Pro for real time protection.
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MS Defender will work if you practice relatively safe surfing routines (ad blocking, safe downloads, etc). I recommend Avast! Free (Avast owns AVG). I would avoid Norton and McAfee like the plague. Both come bundled with various other "add-ons" that will bog down your system and probably just end up annoying you. Not to mention that both tend to leave behind a bunch of junk after uninstalling.
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MS Defender will work if you practice relatively safe surfing routines (ad blocking, safe downloads, etc). I recommend Avast! Free (Avast owns AVG). I would avoid Norton and McAfee like the plague. Both come bundled with various other "add-ons" that will bog down your system and probably just end up annoying you. Not to mention that both tend to leave behind a bunch of junk after uninstalling.
Norton is light and fast, you are stuck in 2008..there is nothing bundled with it...stop living in the past or if you are not up to speed, dont give advice.
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I use the free version of Avast. My only real complaint is that I get a lot of false positives.
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Norton is light and fast, you are stuck in 2008..there is nothing bundled with it...stop living in the past or if you are not up to speed, dont give advice.

I deal with it every day. Norton has no less than 9 "tools" rolled into it's Security Suite (the most common product since it's free with Xfinity).

"In an effort to streamline its large and confusing Norton product line, Symantec combined nine standalone Norton products into one all-purpose suite.[3] Norton Security supersedes Norton Internet Security (and Norton 360), with an overlapping release cycle that saw version 22 as the initial release of the former and the final release of the latter. However, version 22 of Norton 360 and Norton Internet Security were updates as opposed to full releases.

In terms of similarities and differences with its predecessors, Norton Security retains all components of Norton Internet Security (including the antivirus, firewall and identity theft components) and adds the optimization tools from Norton 360."

And yes, this does all come at a performance cost.

In addition, try uninstalling Norton and then scan your registry for "Norton" and "Symantec." They leave way too many entries.
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I use the free version of Avast. My only real complaint is that I get a lot of false positives.
True, but it is better than letting something get through!
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I deal with it every day. Norton has no less than 9 "tools" rolled into it's Security Suite (the most common product since it's free with Xfinity).

"In an effort to streamline its large and confusing Norton product line, Symantec combined nine standalone Norton products into one all-purpose suite.[3] Norton Security supersedes Norton Internet Security (and Norton 360), with an overlapping release cycle that saw version 22 as the initial release of the former and the final release of the latter. However, version 22 of Norton 360 and Norton Internet Security were updates as opposed to full releases.

In terms of similarities and differences with its predecessors, Norton Security retains all components of Norton Internet Security (including the antivirus, firewall and identity theft components) and adds the optimization tools from Norton 360."

And yes, this does all come at a performance cost.

In addition, try uninstalling Norton and then scan your registry for "Norton" and "Symantec." They leave way too many entries.
So now you go from add ons to tools...you realize that you are counting a FIREWALL as an unnecessary tool, as well as anti spam lol...you failed at reading comprehension - it was nine PRODUCTS that were folded into one, so you dont need a separate firewall, separate antivirus etc..
you dont have to use any of the optimization tools if you dont wish to - they can easily be disabled (deluxe does not include backup)...there is actually a virtual zero performance hit and it has been this way for years...
From pc mag -
"Scores from excellent to perfect in our hands-on tests. Powerful, self-sufficient firewall. Award-winning Android security. Suite for macOS. Zero impact in performance tests. "
https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,...519,00.asp
I run deluxe on nearly 100 pc's with no issue. You have never used norton since 2009 and therefore have outdated baseless opinions.
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