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From April 6th-23rd. Allen Edmonds is having their biggest discount of the year for many of their shoes. Most of their shoes that are $425 will be $249, that's over 41% off their shoes. And we're are not talking the factory seconds inventory either. Notable example shoes on sale are...

Carlyle: $249
McAllister $249
Fifth Ave: $249
St John Double Monk:$275
Any many more....

I got the catalog in the mail today, no sign of it on their website yet. I have a scan of the cover of the catalog page but 41.5% off is a great discount considering and worth mentioning to let everyone know.

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Depends on your status and what you're trying to portray. Parks on their own are well made and will last several years. Alden's are better made, but for style i personally think they look a little clunky. So for AEs vs Alden's it's a wash bc the styles are so different. Alden's are made better for sure, but it's only worth the extra $$ if you like the style better.

On the other hand, CJs are more European style and give more of a polished and 'rich' look. Quality is better than AE and in line with Alden's. They aren't worth $400 more unless you want to impress people or you like the style.

AEs are fantastic shoes and probably the 2nd best dress shoe out there in terms of value. I would classify Meermins as the best value dress shoe bc styling is great and quality is just below AE.

CJ and other expensive European brands won't give you more mileage but they'll give you better style and better quality. When you're trying to impress, European brands go a long way.
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For those curious and with an open mind as to reasoning for considering more expensive dress shoes, below may be helpful as a general guide I wrote up for friends and family after some research.

1. Quality over quantity, stop buying cheap shoes (if you can afford better). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAgKCBNF-1A. Think of the costs of dress shoes as being cost per wear not cost per shoes. I used to be like most people buying $50-100 dress shoes which honestly start looking pretty bad after about a year or two like most sneakers do. So the concept is if you buy a quality $500 dress shoe (I know, I just lost you) that lasts you 10 to 20 years if you put at least a small effort of maintaining them and resoling them, that's the equivalent of buying ten $50-$100 cheap dress shoes every year or two over the next decade or two. Look, this Gazelle Gentlemen on the world wide webs says it's true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mep7KYkSu7M. Here's a real man with real style that also explains why the $400 shoe is a better investment over a $40 shoe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRkSdMwAwGs. Kidding aside, I think quality dress shoes are worth considering for various reasons. Better quality, durability/longevity, comfort, looks/style. Apparently high quality leather dress shoes with overall great build quality hold up for many years even decades and actually can look better over time if maintained as they develop a patina. Quality shoes have their upper and bottom soles Goodyear welted (best) or Blake stitched (good) which can easily and affordably be recrafted/resoled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwXdXLGuKTQ. Most cheap shoes (most of what you see in department stores) have glued or "cemented" soles which are basically throw away shoes after worn. The upper sole of high quality leathers and great build quality can easily last 10-20 years if maintained, so you only need to recraft/resole the bottom of the shoe every 2-4 years (if leather sole) or 5-10 years (if rubber sole). Allen Edmonds for one offer this recrafting service on their shoes, but local cobblers can do it as well for perhaps $50-$75. http://www.allenedmonds.com/recrafting.html

2. How to take care of and maintain a quality dress shoe for longer life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMuaaDAlRZ0. Most importantly are put cedar shoe trees in them when not worn- this both helps dry out the moisture (and reduce odor) and help maintain its shape (and avoid unnecessary creases/cracking). Don't wear the same pair more than one day in a row, have a rotation. Use a shoe horn to protect the back upper portion- that can't be replaced unlike the bottom sole. Occasionally, and I'm figuring this out but would probably only do it a couple of times a year, clean, condition and protect/polish your shoes. https://youtu.be/ocsC7ygzLaQ. If you get leather soles, try to avoid heavy rain/slush/snow.

3. Concerning style. From dressier to more casual dress shoes- here's the low down. Most dressy is black Oxford (closed lacing) with no broguing (decorative holes or perforations) whether cap-toe or no cap-toe (personal preference). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPrKcoNblDg. Apparently many videos show that square toe shoes are bad, it's all about round toe and it's important to try to match the dress belt color to the dress shoe color. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7zKR-jtMHk. A man needs only 1 or 2 black dress shoes, the larger bulk of the collection out to be different shades and styles of brown. Only after you have your foundation of 3 to 5 dress shoes should you consider if you want to branch out to other colors (blue, gray), other types (dress boots) or atypical styles (spectators, suede). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS6Th7lEJkw. You want to start off with the most popular and versatile dress shoes that can accommodate the largest wardrobe present and future. Darker brown are dressier and can match with more things than lighter shades of brown (tan, walnut). Derby (also known as Blucher) style defined by open lacing is more casual than Oxford (also known as Balmoral) defined by closed lacing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAidGZyvwaM. More broguing is more casual than less broguing. Here's some quick info and pictures on quarter brogue vs semi/half brogue vs. full/wingtip brogue. https://effortlessgent.com/all-in-the-details-leather-shoes-part-3/. Here's what type/color of shoe matches best with what color of suits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMXkFum1ApQ. Here's how to wear brown shoes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ4kcrFovHU. Leather soles are dressier but rubber soles are becoming ever more popular and acceptable. I was on the fence but settled on dainite rubber soles because they're more durable (resole every 5 years or more instead of 2-3 years of leather soles), low profile/thin for rubber soles, better wet weather resistance and better grip. As far as rubber sole options, apparently dainite is among the best.

4. Different tiers of quality shoes and how to get a good deal/sale/bang for the buck. https://dealnews.com/features/How-to-Find-Mens-Dress-Shoes-That-Will-Last-for-Decades/1128295.html. Putting aside the out of reach unless you're rich $500+ or $1,000+ ones, where is the best bang for the buck for quality shoes at an affordable price? Honestly, after research and personal experience I can confidently point you to Allen Edmonds as one of the best options that should be on your short list. http://www.allenedmonds.com/home. http://www.businessinsider.com/best-mens-dress-shoes-under-500-dollars-2016-2. https://www.theversatilegent.com/best-shoes-for-men-under-500/. Basically you have the $50-$100 whatever brand cheap dress shoes. Next tier is the Cole Hann, Johnston & Murphy and Florsheim type mid-level quality shoes that are about $100-$250 at department stores. Their quality are hit or miss and as far as I know most are still glue soled not Goodyear welted. Where I think the sweet spot is are Allen Edmonds $200-$400. Been around for nearly 100 years, American made (Wisconsin) and probably the best known high quality American made dress shoe company. Great customer service. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWawvLeuMKc. Their best-selling flagship options normally retail for $400+ but occasionally they go on sale for ~$250 They are the Park Avenue (worn by 4 of the last 6 Presidents at their inauguration), the Fifth Avenue, the Strand and the McAllister. Here's a cool video showing their factory and manufacturing process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVihz2DbPd8. Here's a ridiculously comprehensive guide to buying used Allen Edmonds shoes on Ebay. https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/1jhp8o/a_ridiculously_comprehensive_guide_to_buying_used/. And a cool video comparing and pros/cons of cementing (glueing) vs. Goodyear welting vs. Blake stitching. https://youtu.be/VwXdXLGuKTQ
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Link to catalog cover page....

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I clicked the link looking for the sale. Dumb ol' me didn't read the dates. True story. LMAO
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This deal is live, picked up a pair of Carlyle for 249.00
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Hm McAllister are showing up at $275 right now.. Hope it goes down to $250 on the 6th.
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When does the Amex $50 off offer for Allen Edmonds show up during the year?
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I have never purchased this brand. Worth it? I typically buy Johnston & Murphy shoes.
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I have never purchased this brand. Worth it? I typically buy Johnston & Murphy shoes.
AE is much higher quality.
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I have never purchased this brand. Worth it? I typically buy Johnston & Murphy shoes.
I was in the same boat. I am a JM fan and 2 years ago picked up a pair of AE cap toes and am very satisfied with the upgrade. Finer materials mostly.
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Is this in store also? Since I have never purchased AE before I feel like I should go to one of the stores and get a proper fitting
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Is this in store also? Since I have never purchased AE before I feel like I should go to one of the stores and get a proper fitting
Yes, it is, and yes, you *definitely* should.
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