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  • This kayak weighs 32 pounds has dimensions of 32" W x 10'5" L with a weight capacity of 250 pounds. Comes with a 1-Year Warranty.

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Saw this from their site, to me its a great deal and don't know if it will excite anyone here. It's similar to the Advanced Elements Sports but cheaper.



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Seems like everyone is comparing this with the Intex K1. I to be franked never use the Intex before. I have been using some foldable kayak for a while (from Folbot to Klepper to Advanced Elements). Although I have been on several of those, I have to emphasize that I don't consider myself a PRO, so please correct me if I make any wrong claim.

Again, I have no Intex experience, but I run a quick spec scan, and see that it has a durable PVC but didn't mention how many layers so I assume it is only 1 layer? And also seems like the seating and everything else is pretty fixed.

Here is what I look for when buying a kayak (especially a foldable, inflatable type), I am looking for one that has initial stability (so that it won't scare the crap out of me when I climb in) and also one that track well and comfortable, lastly it has to look somewhat like a kayak.

The seat has to be adjustable or upgradable, and the possibility to add accessories and carry overnight loads. Scout seems to meet all these requirement(I own a Advanced Elements Sport, not the Scout, but their spec seems identical), maybe tracking won't be that nice since it's only 10ft, but these kayak come with Keel and there's a backbone you can add later to give you a v shape bottom to give you better tracking and a more rigid kayak (I don't feel like its needed for my use tho).

Also the Scout come with 3 ply pvc. And the inflatable portion is inside a casing. It also come with 7 chambers (or 9?), it takes a good 15 minutes to inflate.

My 3 cents. Happy kayaking.
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What makes this better than the Intex K1, which has an everyday price of $70 and goes on sale for $50-60?

I'm not claiming the K1 is just as good, I'm just genuinely curious what makes the West Marine Scout better.
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OP - thanks for this post. We've got a week long trip to Lake Tahoe with our adult kids this July/August, and plan lots of time on the water!

We got one of these cheaper kayaks from Amazon a couple of years ago and have really enjoyed it and have been planning on purchasing another. Would you (or anyone!) have an idea weather or not it's worth the huge price difference to upgrade to this one? https://www.amazon.com/Intex-Challenger-1-Person-Inflatable-Aluminum/dp/B00177J4JS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF... [amazon.com]

Thanks in advance for any input that could help me decide.
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Seems like everyone is comparing this with the Intex K1. I to be franked never use the Intex before. I have been using some foldable kayak for a while (from Folbot to Klepper to Advanced Elements). Although I have been on several of those, I have to emphasize that I don't consider myself a PRO, so please correct me if I make any wrong claim.

Again, I have no Intex experience, but I run a quick spec scan, and see that it has a durable PVC but didn't mention how many layers so I assume it is only 1 layer? And also seems like the seating and everything else is pretty fixed.

Here is what I look for when buying a kayak (especially a foldable, inflatable type), I am looking for one that has initial stability (so that it won't scare the crap out of me when I climb in) and also one that track well and comfortable, lastly it has to look somewhat like a kayak.

The seat has to be adjustable or upgradable, and the possibility to add accessories and carry overnight loads. Scout seems to meet all these requirement(I own a Advanced Elements Sport, not the Scout, but their spec seems identical), maybe tracking won't be that nice since it's only 10ft, but these kayak come with Keel and there's a backbone you can add later to give you a v shape bottom to give you better tracking and a more rigid kayak (I don't feel like its needed for my use tho).

Also the Scout come with 3 ply pvc. And the inflatable portion is inside a casing. It also come with 7 chambers (or 9?), it takes a good 15 minutes to inflate.

My 3 cents. Happy kayaking.
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Seems like everyone is comparing this with the Intex K1. I to be franked never use the Intex before. I have been using some foldable kayak for a while (from Folbot to Klepper to Advanced Elements). Although I have been on several of those, I have to emphasize that I don't consider myself a PRO, so please correct me if I make any wrong claim.

Again, I have no Intex experience, but I run a quick spec scan, and see that it has a durable PVC but didn't mention how many layers so I assume it is only 1 layer? And also seems like the seating and everything else is pretty fixed.

Here is what I look for when buying a kayak (especially a foldable, inflatable type), I am looking for one that has initial stability (so that it won't scare the crap out of me when I climb in) and also one that track well and comfortable, lastly it has to look somewhat like a kayak.

The seat has to be adjustable or upgradable, and the possibility to add accessories and carry overnight loads. Scout seems to meet all these requirement(I own a Advanced Elements Sport, not the Scout, but their spec seems identical), maybe tracking won't be that nice since it's only 10ft, but these kayak come with Keel and there's a backbone you can add later to give you a v shape bottom to give you better tracking and a more rigid kayak (I don't feel like its needed for my use tho).

Also the Scout come with 3 ply pvc. And the inflatable portion is inside a casing. It also come with 7 chambers (or 9?), it takes a good 15 minutes to inflate.

My 3 cents. Happy kayaking.
Thanks Thread. I'm pretty certain that if I were to look at the quality of build it would be no comparison. This has got an aluminum frame firstly, and that ain't cheap. I don't doubt it would feel much stiffer and therefore have many benefits especially if the water gets choppy, or on a river etc.

Several layers of material is pretty interesting too, and I like the "real kayak" look of the Scout. I guess I think it far superior to the K1, but the K1 has been fine for our needs so far and thus I need to justify even paying the extra $100. Considering that the MSRP is over $400 higher, I'm left wondering what people are actually paying for. Not insomuch as the materials go, but what they get out of it, if that makes sense. So far we've only been out on the lakes with ours but we bought a Jeep last year and do plan to get out and use it a lot more this summer.

I'm strongly temped by this price point to buy it for my own comparison.
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I'm a retired whitewater guy and haven't keep up with the new stuff much, but West (the company) has a good rep and I think it'd be hard to go wrong with this IK for starting out. I wouldn't want to depend on it for much more than dinking around on lakes or lazy rivers. For places like Lake Tahoe, it'll help if you wade out and hop in and try to avoid scraping it on the rocky shore. No seal entries. :-)

This deal tempts me and I'm in the high desert and the closest water to me at the moment is 80 miles away.

Spend some of your savings on a good PFD that you'll actually want to wear....
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...." It also come with 7 chambers (or 9?), it takes a good 15 minutes to inflate."
Did some reading and it appears that you were right about the specs match the "Sport" model exactly as far as I can tell. That includes the 4 chamber construction of both.

The K1 has two chambers if I remember correctly and I do feel that more is better, but only to a point. I mean too many chambers could get pretty cumbersome to get set up and I just want to get on the water.

In regard to performance differences between this and the much cheaper model K1 they claim:

"But what about performance? That's where our kayak becomes a game-changer. With an aluminum-reinforced bow that slices through the water like a knife and an aluminum-framed stern with a tracking fin that acts as a skeg, it won't wallow around like an oversized pool toy. This kayak not only tracks straight in flat water, it'll also cut through the waves like a rigid shell."

I placed my order. If for no other reason then to have a 2nd kayak for our trip. Something tells me it's going to be quite a bit better than the K1. I'll find out for myself and post a review comparing the two somewhere when I do since I can't find a single one on the entire world wide web!
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FWIW (and that aint a lot Wink ) I did some searching and looked at various youtube videos of West Marine inflatable kayaks that look about like this one (or hell maybe they are this one just different name/color/year whatever) ............

......... and it looks to track nicely and some videos they were even using on the ocean... albeit close to shore in relatively calm conditions but still.....

just bought some land very very near a nice lake and I have been looking for a kayak and to find a decent inflatable one that isn't a pool toy (as I suspect the intex is based on previous experience with their products) is difficult....


.... any way long story short I bit....
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Saw this from their site, to me its a great deal and don't know if it will excite anyone here. It's similar to the Advanced Elements Sports but cheaper.



https://www.westmarine.com/buy/we...sults-Test
As the OP said this looks like a less expensive version of the Advanced Elements Sports ....

is this just a rebranded Advanced Elements Sports?

price is about the same....

EDIT: IF you look in the comments.....

What are the differences between the West Marine Scout advanced frame and the advanced elements advanced frame sport?
Verified Reply - West Marine Customer Service
"Advanced Elements produces the WM Scout Kayak for us. The only difference other than the Frame Sport being newer is that it is also 6lbs lighter."

...so essentially you are probably getting the Advanced Elements Advanced Frame sport for about 1/3 the list price
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If they are the same...
here's an in depth review/set up....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBIPCiU04k
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I do a good bit of fishing and enjoy it in my Vibe Sea Ghost 110 (bought it last year after using a Field and Stream Eagle Talon for a year). Last year I thought I'd try out the Intex K1 Explorer, a tandem kayak that can be used with one person. I was very impressed with the Explorer, especially how heavy the vinyl was and how well it held up to wear and tear, but it didn't track well for me (I'm 6'-6", 240) so I sold it. I couldn't get its seat set well for me, either.

This West Marine Scout looks like it would be easier to use than the Explorer because it would be easier to control. Thumbs up for a kayak post!
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As the OP said this looks like a less expensive version of the Advanced Elements Sports ....
As you mentioned, the rebadged West Marine kayak is 6 lbs heavier than the Advanced Elements Sports kayak (32 lbs instead of 26 lbs). Another difference is that the West Marine kayak does not include a storage/carrying bag.

Still, at under half the price of the Advanced Elements Sports, it's an excellent deal.

Does anybody have a suggestion for a right-sized storage bag for this 'yak?
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I own the Intex Explorer K2, the tandem version of the Explorer K1 kayak that's been mentioned a couple times upthread. I've had it for a couple of years. It's a very inexpensive and excellent beginner's kayak.

My girlfriend and I have been out on the Explorer K2 on several lakes and rivers. It's surprisingly durable. It held up well going down shallow, rocky stretches of the Susquehanna River where it frequently scraped bottom without a problem. We've been very happy with it, and have gotten our money's worth many times over.

I imagine that the more rigid Scout tracks somewhat better than the Explorer. Although a narrow, hard-bodied kayak is going to slice through the water better than either of these inflatables.

Anyway, at the bargain prices for the Intex Explorer K1/K2 kayaks and this on-sale Western Marine Scout kayak, you really can't go wrong either way.
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Good for crossing the Rio in a hurry, then sinking it to cover tracks? Asking for a friend
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