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Yamaha A-S701SL Natural Sound Integrated Stereo Amplifier $549.98

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Amazon.com is selling the silver model A-S701 for the same price as the A-S501. $250 less than anyone else and it's not refurbished. I waited till I got mine before posting this deal just in case it turned out to be used/refurbished. I'm thinking it's an error because Amazon is an authorized Yamaha dealer and Yamaha would never let them go new for this price.

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No USB DAC like the 801 model unfortunately.
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Can one setup along with a 5.1 AVR, so can watch movies OR listen to music with higher quality result?

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Not trying to be rude at all here, honest questions, since I am a huge Yamaha receiver fan. Yamaha makes very good recievers across the line at the consumer levels with lots of good features and good parts.

I have owned Yamahas now for decades and just started some upgrades about 3 years back. My Yamaha receivers were still woring great, even after 10+ years of service, but simple techno upgrades were needed, like the HDMI, BT, etc. to get up to current par with everything else on the market for AV. But I use mine for 90% straight music aplications

Starting around the RX-V series, then the Aventage lines, are a good beginning point of reference in this price range with the mid to upper levels of the RX line and begining line of the A series, I was trying to find the specific differences that would mae this receiver stand out .. but simply could not find any.

It seems this model has been around since at least 2015 and extremely limited ranges of use, even in a simple 2 channel stereo configuration.

And in this price range, you can get a lot more in one of the newer lines.

I'm not going to TD this, just in case there is something specific I am missing here, but can you elaborate what makes this receiver worth this price when there is so much else available in this same price range with a lot more configuration options? This model is even limited to a single sub, which I enjoy a dual sub setup for my SVS subs, running two with 4 JBL ES80's (ES90's on one system) for my music applications.


Thanks for the post and hope you can provide some clarity and education for me on this particular subject. I'm always interested in learning and there can always be areas I can over-look. Smilie
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Looks like Amazon just pulled it. Congratulations to anyone who was able to snag one at that price!
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Can one setup along with a 5.1 AVR, so can watch movies OR listen to music with higher quality result?

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You would need pre-outs on your receiver.
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Not trying to be rude at all here, honest questions, since I am a huge Yamaha receiver fan. Yamaha makes very good recievers across the line at the consumer levels with lots of good features and good parts.

I have owned Yamahas now for decades and just started some upgrades about 3 years back. My Yamaha receivers were still woring great, even after 10+ years of service, but simple techno upgrades were needed, like the HDMI, BT, etc. to get up to current par with everything else on the market for AV. But I use mine for 90% straight music aplications

Starting around the RX-V series, then the Aventage lines, are a good beginning point of reference in this price range with the mid to upper levels of the RX line and begining line of the A series, I was trying to find the specific differences that would mae this receiver stand out .. but simply could not find any.

It seems this model has been around since at least 2015 and extremely limited ranges of use, even in a simple 2 channel stereo configuration.

And in this price range, you can get a lot more in one of the newer lines.

I'm not going to TD this, just in case there is something specific I am missing here, but can you elaborate what makes this receiver worth this price when there is so much else available in this same price range with a lot more configuration options? This model is even limited to a single sub, which I enjoy a dual sub setup for my SVS subs, running two with 4 JBL ES80's (ES90's on one system) for my music applications.


Thanks for the post and hope you can provide some clarity and education for me on this particular subject. I'm always interested in learning and there can always be areas I can over-look. https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Without getting into the details of signal amplification, you are essentially trading features for audio quality. This integrated amplifier weighs about 10 Lbs more than the comparable A/V receivers loaded with features. It is made to last and sound great.

Basically it's a Hi-Fi audio solution for folks that don't want to spend thousands on higher end amps like the ones made by McIntosh
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Without getting into the details of signal amplification, you are essentially trading features for audio quality. This integrated amplifier weighs about 10 Lbs more than the comparable A/V receivers loaded with features. It is made to last and sound great.

Basically it's a Hi-Fi audio solution for folks that don't want to spend thousands on higher end amps like the ones made by McIntosh
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Not trying to be rude at all here, honest questions, since I am a huge Yamaha receiver fan. Yamaha makes very good recievers across the line at the consumer levels with lots of good features and good parts.

I have owned Yamahas now for decades and just started some upgrades about 3 years back. My Yamaha receivers were still woring great, even after 10+ years of service, but simple techno upgrades were needed, like the HDMI, BT, etc. to get up to current par with everything else on the market for AV. But I use mine for 90% straight music aplications

Starting around the RX-V series, then the Aventage lines, are a good beginning point of reference in this price range with the mid to upper levels of the RX line and begining line of the A series, I was trying to find the specific differences that would mae this receiver stand out .. but simply could not find any.

It seems this model has been around since at least 2015 and extremely limited ranges of use, even in a simple 2 channel stereo configuration.

And in this price range, you can get a lot more in one of the newer lines.

I'm not going to TD this, just in case there is something specific I am missing here, but can you elaborate what makes this receiver worth this price when there is so much else available in this same price range with a lot more configuration options? This model is even limited to a single sub, which I enjoy a dual sub setup for my SVS subs, running two with 4 JBL ES80's (ES90's on one system) for my music applications.


Thanks for the post and hope you can provide some clarity and education for me on this particular subject. I'm always interested in learning and there can always be areas I can over-look. Smilie
This is an amplifier with expanded input integration, where-as you're talking about a receiver which has tons of inputs and outputs. Also dual subwoofer you can use an rca splitter or driver if output voltage is too low. Sub bass is almost never stereo, so it won't matter that you don't have left/right output.
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Switch to silver color, still alive, great amp. In for 1. Thx OP.
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Without getting into the details of signal amplification, you are essentially trading features for audio quality. This integrated amplifier weighs about 10 Lbs more than the comparable A/V receivers loaded with features. It is made to last and sound great.

Basically it's a Hi-Fi audio solution for folks that don't want to spend thousands on higher end amps like the ones made by McIntosh
Thanks for the info! I am nowhere close to being an audiophile, simple now a few basics and do enjoy my music. It all comes down to a lot of personal preference and pure sound and I have found that most people (not trying to be rude at all, just things I have noticed over the decades) can hardly tell, if many times at all, the very subtle differences that sometimes can take place, especially with music.

I still remember in my young years, graduating very slowly to better equipment, That's where I began noticing huge differences just by going to the cheap very low end (because thats all one could afford at the time) to something much better. Listening to original recordings where the equipment would pick up sounds, lie subltle chimes, that wer never heard before on the low end stuff, but was there all the time.

In such cases, most can easily see the differences (in this case hear the differences).

I just looked up the McIntosh since your referenced them. I of couse had heard of the lines and knew them to be "top end", but never did any research on them, since I knew I would not want to spend the kind of money thier price tag demands.

There is a lot of typical style debates in many forums on many levels, but I am not about to jump into such things where I know I am not qualified to even participate. But I do loo at certain basics, in this case simply the sound quality and a balance of actual performance you can hear and at what cost. So I did a quick search just to find some basics. Here;s an example (just one of the first that popped up on a Google search)

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-nC1...C7200.html

With a side by side comparrsion on specs alone, is the McIntosh actually worth the almost 10 times the cost factor? Going from $700 to $7,000? For that kind of gap, I would be expecting a huge noticable difference, just as I did when I was young going from the "pure junk" that I ha starting out, to a decently better unit, where I could at least here the true music that was recorded (such as the subtle chimes in a song, totally missed by the very cheap unit).


Does the McIntosh have such differences that are worth such a price tag? (honest question, not trying to be rude). I know, for example, in speakers where again, it can all be subjective, that lines lie Bose, IMO offer mediocre sound at a very high price. I simply will not pay such a price when I can easily find better sound at a much lower price.

Again, my main factor is "sound". I am a very novice drummer and am putting together my last kit. I have at least 20 cymbals I have picked up over the last couple of years that I still have to play out on to see if I will keep them or not. I could not care less what stampt is on them. They can be Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste, etc. an I honestly rarely even look until I have made a decission on if I am going to keep that specific cymbal or not. I have found a couple that I would never get rid of. A very old Zildjian 21" ride that has amazing sound from end to end. A Sabian 16" XS20 crash, that looks like hell (tarnished and finger printed from end to end..just have never cleaned it yet) that is the best light crash in all of the cymbals I have gone through in years. Many people will discuss/debate what lines are best (including all those in the same manufacturer family), but it all comes down to the actual sound. Once I do find my "perfect set", they will all be wiped clean of all logo markings, because it will be a mix-mash and I'm not going to be doing any "advertising" for something I already paid for.

So, bottom line, is something like the McIntosh lines, when compared to something similar, actual worth 10X the price tag and can you hear that much of a differnce? (again, not trying to be argumentative or rude .. just an honest question) Smilie

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This is an amplifier with expanded input integration, where-as you're talking about a receiver which has tons of inputs and outputs. Also dual subwoofer you can use an rca splitter or driver if output voltage is too low. Sub bass is almost never stereo, so it won't matter that you don't have left/right output.
Thanks for the info and reply. I have to respectfully disagree on this point. Going from the 2 channel hi-fi from the old days to all the channels and recording technologies of the now can be compared to going from mono to stereo.

Subs and other channels (such as center for voice) are used to give much better range than the old 2 channel stereo, simply because they are now recorded that way.

And to go from the old RCA connection to something like fiber is a world of difference in actual sound quality.

Again, respectfully speaking, I understand holding on to what was once the best around, but we also have to give credit to some of the new technologies that have greatly enhanced many listening experiences we have now. Smilie
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