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Tolerant San Francisco fed up with dirty, smelly streets

22,839 May 1, 2018 at 11:03 AM
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The city's logged more than 24,300 requests last year for human waste cleanup and 9,500 for needle pick-up. This year, there already have been more than 8,300 requests to pick up waste and 3,700 for needles.


I've never once see human waste on the streets of the city I live in. Nor in any of my travels to numerous other cities across the US. Yet this one city has had 24,300 instances of it, in one year?? Same goes for needles in the streets.

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In the last few weeks, Mayor Mark Farrell has promised $750,000 to hire more people just to pick up discarded needles and $13 million over the next two years for more heavy duty steam cleaners and pit stop toilets. He also had workers dismantle sprawling homeless tent camps in the city's Mission District.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/artic...875527.php

Sounds like a hell hole. They interviewed people that are embarrassed to bring family into town and some packing up an moving out of CA. San Francisco is far from the only city in CA with this issue. Why the hell do these people keep voting the Democrat knuckleheads into office that perpetuate these conditions of squalor for their citizens? The accounts in this article are the makings of a city in third world country, not a city in the greatest country in the world.

California is on a collision course with disaster if they keep up their reckless liberal agenda. At some point the citizens will rise up and revolt against the insanity.

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I've never once see human waste on the streets of the city I live in. Nor in any of my travels to numerous other cities across the US. Yet this one city has had 24,300 instances of it, in one year?? Same goes for needles in the streets.
Step One: Clear out all the mental hospitals
Step Two: Don't let anybody else into the mental hospitals
Step Three: Police drive mentally ill people out of their towns and dump them in Berkeley, San Francisco, New York, Philadelpha
Step Four: You complain that San Francisco is full of mentally ill homeless people, and your town is so perfect.

So what's the solution? Build more mental hospitals, or execute the mentally ill, the way Hitler did?
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What is the solution?

Status quo isn't working and seems to be making the problems worse. Too much poop and needles everywhere.
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I won't lie, it is a problem. There are parts of downtown which we actively avoid because they are actively sketchy. And some of these areas butt right up against very lavish areas of town, making for quite the contrast. Generally, SF is clean, safe, and highly desireable. The locals simply learn which blocks to avoid. It's a heck of a problem to solve without simply shipping the homeless if to another town (as several towns have done to SF), and no one has figured out a good solution yet.

Part of the problem is that many of the homeless are visibly mentally ill, incapable of working, and in real need to medical supervision. The other problem is the soaring property cost and related shortage of property.
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That's what happens when you regulate housing supply tightly in a geographically restricted era.

Keep in mind, the median home price in SF sold for q1 2018 was $1.6M. And I'm talking 3/2 basics at that price
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What is the solution?.
Public restrooms like the ones you see everywhere around Paris probably couldn't hurt!

Heck, some of them even do a full spray down of the entire unit when the person is done Smilie
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SF spends $30M a year cleaning poop up. That's half of the budget designed just for street cleaning (which is now includes washing sidewalks). I posted a video not long ago of a guy crapping on the Starbucks wall bc they wouldn't let him use the bathroom. I think I now know where it happened.
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That's what happens when you regulate housing supply tightly in a geographically restricted era.

Keep in mind, the median home price in SF sold for q1 2018 was $1.6M. And I'm talking 3/2 basics at that price
That doesn't sounds right - that sounds like a steal! Maybe that much for a 1/1 or 2/1 if you're lucky. $1.6M just might buy a 2/2 in less expensive parts of South Bay.
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I once saw a hobo crapping on the side of walmart. My town's not that big, but a guy I work with lived in big city and said he would see hobos just pull their pants down and crap on the side of highways.
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We have a nationwide drug and opioid crisis in the USA. But some here Trump supporters like to divide America by cherry picking liberal cities and pretending those problems don't exist anywhere. They don't care about solving the issues of the opioid crisis.

The fact is California has one of the lowest rate of drug overdoses in the nation. Places like Ohio/Kentucky/West Virginia have a major problem.

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Step One: Clear out all the mental hospitals
Step Two: Don't let anybody else into the mental hospitals
Step Three: Police drive mentally ill people out of their towns and dump them in Berkeley, San Francisco, New York, Philadelpha
Step Four: You complain that San Francisco is full of mentally ill homeless people, and your town is so perfect.

So what's the solution? Build more mental hospitals, or execute the mentally ill, the way Hitler did?
this might not be a hyperbole as a poster recently said we (should) either deport undocumented immigrants or execute them.

binary thinking is so soothing for some.
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What is the solution?

Status quo isn't working and seems to be making the problems worse. Too much poop and needles everywhere.
"poops and needles"..... ? "give us your poops, give us your needles; give us your poops & needles."
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There was an in depth article I posted on the issue the last time somebody brought up San Fran:

http://projects.sfchronicle.com/sf-homeless/

There's a ton of mentally ill on the streets, inadequate shelter system and the need for more effective supportive housing programs. No easy (and likely also no inexpensive) solutions.
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I've seen the tent city thing other places also. It's been going stronger and stronger for a few years.

Are people just dropping out of society? Is it a matter of "screw it, I can't get ahead so I quit"?

It's not exclusively mentally ill people.
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I've seen the tent city thing other places also. It's been going stronger and stronger for a few years.

Are people just dropping out of society? Is it a matter of "screw it, I can't get ahead so I quit"?

It's not exclusively mentally ill people.
Interesting (to me) related podcast/article: https://99percentinvisible.org/ep...ment-plan/
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