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Rebuilding desktop and need advice..

24 10 May 1, 2018 at 02:29 PM
Hi all!

I built my first computer a few years back. At the time having a small form factor was very important to me due to my living situation. Unfortunately it started having overheating issues (about 2 years after I built it) and eventually stopped turning on.

The biggest problem I have right now is that I don't know if the motherboard or the CPU is fried.

Here are the parts I currently have

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Super clocked w/ g-sync supports 1gb hddr5

motherboard: gigabyte ga-h77n-wifi lga 1155 Intel h77 HDMI sata 6gb/s USB 3.0 mini itx

ram: 2x adata xpg v1.0 4gb ddr3

power supply cooler master elite 460W.


If possible I would love to keep the processor as I don't think there is any point in upgrading it yet. However in order to test and make sure it's not damaged I believe I need a working motherboard that fits LGA 1155 CPUs. But I'd rather not buy a LGA 1155 compatible CPU if it's going to turn out that I need to buy a new CPU anyway...

So I'm a bit stuck, any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

I tentatively plan on going with a much larger case (not mini-itx) maybe with water cooling as well.
I mostly do photo editing, gaming (overwatch and a plethora of steam titles, but nothing bleeding edge), and some video editing.

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How do you know it was over heating or what is it that is? 90% of the time it's a bad PSU and 9% it's a blown motherboard. There ain't many 1155s on the market, you probably have to prowl around the secondary market for a new board if that is the problem.
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Check to see if your CPU Cooler is okay. That can cause the CPU to overheat. Check all components including PSU to see if they are working.
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I was running a computer/heat monitor and one area was running really hot and then it would freeze up when I was playing games.

So I bought a PSU checker and the PSU is fine.
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Check to see if your CPU Cooler is okay. That can cause the CPU to overheat. Check all components including PSU to see if they are working.
By CPU cooler do you mean like the heatsink fan? All the fans I had hooked up were working.
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Truthfully... None of it is worth saving... Part it out and put together a nice new PC. The $ invest into a 3rd gen i5 isn't worth it. The resale market on that chip is pretty decent (over clocks well.)

Since you are doing photo editing and gaming you would benefit greatly from a new i5 8600 or Ryzen 7 (they are on sale all the time since Ryzen+ came out.)
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Oh, it could also be the RAM. Does it do anything if you push the power.button?
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If the CPU fan and the PSU fan are spinning on power up, try removing secondary components like 1 RAM stick, hard drives, optical drives, video card, etc...

Power on with just the CPU, mobo, and a single RAM stick and see if you get a display onscreen.

If nothing, try swapping the RAM stick.

If still nothing, try reseating the CPU heatsink after a good cleaning.

1155 era CPUs are still quite capable for most tasks.
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Truthfully... None of it is worth saving... Part it out and put together a nice new PC. The $ invest into a 3rd gen i5 isn't worth it. The resale market on that chip is pretty decent (over clocks well.)

Since you are doing photo editing and gaming you would benefit greatly from a new i5 8600 or Ryzen 7 (they are on sale all the time since Ryzen+ came out.)
Is the i5 8600 really that much better than my current i5? Or are you saying that buying a "new" motherboard for a third gen chip doesn't make much sense?
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Oh, it could also be the RAM. Does it do anything if you push the power.button?
Right, I'm not asking for troushooting as I have tried all of this when the computer stopped working (it's been about 8 months at least so my memory is a little fuzzy).

The problem is either with the CPU or the motherboard, is there a way to check to see which it is?
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Is the i5 8600 really that much better than my current i5? Or are you saying that buying a "new" motherboard for a third gen chip doesn't make much sense?
Both. the H61/Z77 boards are getting harder to find and the resale market on the Z boards is still strong due to OC. You could pickup a generic board or Intel branded board for under $100, but thats a gamble considering the CPU, RAM, or both could be the issue.

8600k vs 3570k
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Comp...3941vs1316
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If it doesn't turn on at all, the board is fried. If it does do something, there's a lot of things that could be wrong. CPU failures are vanishingly rare without the motherboard also being fired. You could look for scorch marks on the pads of the CPU. That's about it without another Ivy Bridge PC to swap parts with.
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If it doesn't turn on at all, the board is fried. If it does do something, there's a lot of things that could be wrong. CPU failures are vanishingly rare without the motherboard also being fired. You could look for scorch marks on the pads of the CPU. That's about it without another Ivy Bridge PC to swap parts with.
Thanks, as I remember it it wouldn't turn on at all, but maybe I'll do a quick rebuild tonight and double check. The reason CPU failures are becoming more rare is because the motherboard is more likely to sacrifice itself? I am afraid that the CPU fan was plugged into the wrong port and not working at all- which seems like it might indicate the CPU is shot now- hence why I was hoping there was way to test it without having to get another compatible motherboard.

Thanks for the advice! I'll probably end up just building from scratch then.
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If it's not turning on, definitely the power supply is fried. If it's turning on but it doesn't show anything on your screen then there's a problem with your MB.
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