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trying to figure out what angle new phone scam is about

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Last night around 2-3am I got several calls from 202-455-8888, with the following voice message "Remember you should not share this code with anyone else and no one from Google will ever ask for this code. Your code is 1 2 3 4 5 6 (various 6 digit #s), again your code is 1 2 3 4 5 6, Good bye."

I received 4 calls from this #, the first voicemail had the robotic voice of an American female, and the last few had the robotic voice of a British female.

In between those calls I also received calls from 415-610-5110, with the voice message "Your craigslist code is 12345. Once again, your code is 12345 (random #). If you are not validating a Craigslist account, please disregard".

The calls were to my Google Voice phone number. I was well asleep from 11am last night til 7am this morning, and all of my Gmail accounts are protected by 2 factor authentication, and I have no craigslist account.

I'm trying to figure out what the scammers are trying to do with these calls. Clearly they were trying to call while I was asleep. There is no way they could have hacked into my Gmail accounts because I use super long unique and random passwords, and my Gmail accounts are protected by 2 factor authentication.

What is the angle of these scam / spam messages?

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Appears to be a known scam.

See some of the links here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2...e&ie=UTF-8
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Appears to be a known scam.

See some of the links here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2...e&ie=UTF-8
Interesting.
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Appears to be a known scam.

See some of the links here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2...e&ie=UTF-8
Yes I read about these earlier, it doesn't sound like my case.

Those cases refer to:

1. someone (a seller of goods or service) receiving a text or email from someone (off craigslist or some other market place) claiming that they will call them, but because they are calling from some sort of phone card service, they will get a verification call and they need to enter 2 digits to allow the call to go through.

2. the person is duped to answer the call from Google and enter the 2 digit code, thus confirming their own phone number is now valid for forwarding a random google voice phone number (used by the scammers to call people). This is for scammers who live outside the US and need Google Voice numbers to scam call people.

In my case, this scam does not apply, because I did not get any texts or messages to validate my number with a 2 digit code. Instead, I got 5-6 digit Google 2 factor authentication codes for some random Gmail account. Further more, these calls were to my Google Voice #. A Google Voice # cannot be used as the forwarding number for another google voice #, so even if someone were to target me with the above scam, it would fail.

So I'm stumped as to what the scam is, with the multiple messages to my google voice #. It is also very suspicious that the same # left voice mails in 2 different computerized accents (British vs US), making it unlikely that it was Google leaving the message.

These #'s left by the voicemail are useless, so I'm not sure what they are trying to achieve.

The one thought I had was someone creating a Gmail account, setting up 2 factor authentication, and then using my # as the phone to validate as the phone for 2 factor authentication. This would fail because they would not get any real Google phone calls for verification, and I'm not sure what they hope to achieve if they do use my phone # as the recovery # for their Gmail.

So perhaps someone was drunk, trying to create a Craigslist account, create a new Gmail account, and maybe mis-typed my phone # as the validation phone #? Seems pretty unlikely, which is why I'm trying to figure out what the scam angle is.
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just ignore it,dont call the number back,se if yo can block number

https://support.google.com/voice/...ktop&hl=en
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just ignore it,dont call the number back,se if yo can block number

https://support.google.com/voice/...ktop&hl=en
Not sure if I want to block it, if it's a real Google Voice / Craigslist verification number, just in case in the future I need it for any reason.

Ignoring it is not the issue, I'm trying to figure out what scams are being run here so I can watch out for the real con.
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Not sure if I want to block it, if it's a real Google Voice / Craigslist verification number, just in case in the future I need it for any reason.

Ignoring it is not the issue, I'm trying to figure out what scams are being run here so I can watch out for the real con.

Maybe someone playing around with Craigslist trying to setup some account\scam without giving out their real info not realizing that there is a confirmation process to prevent such?
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Passwords are nothing anymore...you don't need to guess them, just wait for the next hack to expose them. Then run a script trying to find accounts without 2 factor.

I assume the voice calls are to give the codes over voice instead of txt msg.

not sure on the craigslist unless they thought they had your number.

does google show attempt location they way it shows login locations?

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The one thought I had was someone creating a Gmail account, setting up 2 factor authentication, and then using my # as the phone to validate as the phone for 2 factor authentication..
I'm wondering if this could be in any way related to the fact that Google Gmail does not respect the various RFCs that the rest of the universe follows when it comes to email address formatting.

IOW, the bottom line here is that Gmail does not recognize the "." or any other punctuation to the left of the "@" symbol in an email address.
What this leads to is endless numbers of idiots thinking that their address is cheap.bastid"at"gmail.com when, in fact, you've already registered cheap_bastid"at"gmail.com and Google treats them as one and the same.
In the scenario you're experiencing Google would see their attempt to setup two-factor authentication perhaps and send the voice message to the telephone associated with the account.
All of the above is pure speculation just based on years of annoyance at getting emails related to people too stupid to know their own email address and/or having friends too stupid to have copied it down correctly. Not to mention businesses who don't require any sort of validation when a customer registers an email address with them. MadMadMad
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Having just read some of the posts over on 800notes I'm guessing I'm off base with the Gmail address theory and that this is a basic scam to add services to your phone account.
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I think it's not just you. Since years ago, this number has sent these codes to hundreds of people (including me). I have just Googled this number and found so many reports have been filed even since 2012 at http://www.whycall.me/202-455-8888.html. I just ignored those calls and messages, though.
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