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Good price, I like this knife, even though it's a bit heavy and the steel snobs will talk smack.
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I've got the very similar Kershaw Filter in the same 4Cr14 stainless steel. It's a softer budget, budget stainless steel, but it sharpens easily. It just needs more frequent touch ups with a steel when the edge folds over. A little heavy because it is made completely of steel. More corrosion resistant than harder stainless steels like 8cr14Mov that you can find lots of good Kershaw knives in for around the $20 mark.

The flipper on it is what you would expect of a Kershaw, nice and snappy. If you want a sturdy, heavy knife and don't mind touching it up then this might be the knife for you.

Now, knife snobs are going to tell you it's junk because of the soft steel, but I believe in rating knives on bang for the buck. I'd give this knife about a B- @ $13.50.

Walmart also has the Kershaw Oso Sweet for $16.71 right now. Smaller, lighter knife with better steel that holds an edge a little longer.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kershaw-Oso-Sweet-1830-Folding-Pocketknife-Satin-Finished-3-1-Inch-8Cr13M... [walmart.com]

And if you want to get in on what I personally think is the best budget knife for the money you can get an Ontario Rat I in AUS-8 Stainless Steel for $24 bones over here:
https://slickdeals.net/f/11623387-ontario-rat-1-knife-17-04-now-23-99?v=1

Two articles on common knife steel. Harder is not always better as it usually means more brittle and prone to chipping or breaking, as well as harder to sharpen. So know your steels, what you intend to do with the knife, and buy accordingly.
http://knifeinformer.com/discover...ife-steel/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis..._materials
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the steel snobs will talk smack.
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knife snobs are going to tell you it's junk because of the soft steel

Anyone who uses the term "steel snob" in regards to Chinese junk steel is clueless. We're not talking S110V vs. M390. We're talking something below the bare minimum for a regularly-usable edge.


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Two articles on common knife steel. Harder is not always better as it usually means more brittle and prone to chipping or breaking, as well as harder to sharpen. So know your steels, what you intend to do with the knife, and buy accordingly.
http://knifeinformer.com/discover...ife-steel/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis..._materials
LOL

It's quite amusing that the Chinese junk steel used, 4Cr14, is not listed in either list. Take note, this is not 4Cr14MoV...they "forgot" the Molybdenum and Vanadium for this knife.


https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/kni...fe/starter


KnifeCenter lists it as having 3Cr13...a mistake, or did Kershaw use an even lower steel previously?

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/...el-handles
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Anyone who uses the term "steel snob" in regards to Chinese junk steel is clueless. We're not talking S110V vs. M390. We're talking something below the bare minimum for a regularly-usable edge.




LOL

It's quite amusing that the Chinese junk steel used, 4Cr14, is not listed in either list. Take note, this is not 4Cr14MoV...they "forgot" the Molybdenum and Vanadium for this knife.


https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/kni...fe/starter


KnifeCenter lists it as having 3Cr13...a mistake, or did Kershaw use an even lower steel previously?

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/...el-handles
When I said harder steel was not always better, I didn't mean 4cr14 was as hard as you will want in a knife. Far from it, and sorry if it sounded like that was what I was saying.

What I did say was that I've got the Kershaw Filter in the exact same steel as the Starter and I find it acceptable for it's low price and the quality of it's build. It's heavy, sturdy and has a very nice assisted open. Blade is centered and no wiggle or other problems. The blade is fairly thick and tough, less likely to break if dropped than many other knives with better steel. It cuts the crud out of string, cardboard boxes and a steak if you do your part keeping it sharp.

Yup, it's made out of a cheap, soft Chinese stainless steel. It will need frequents touch ups to keep it sharp, maybe 10 seconds a day across a steel and it's good to go. It's also only $13.50 with free shipping to your local Walmart.

Find a better folder in a better steel for the money and I'm sure folks would love to hear about it.
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Yup, it's made out of a cheap, soft Chinese stainless steel. It will need frequents touch ups to keep it sharp, maybe 10 seconds a day across a steel and it's good to go. It's also only $13.50 with free shipping to your local Walmart.
Sharpen daily? No thanks. Materials technology has advanced enough to make that a thing of the past...but as Kershaw aims to recreate itself into Gerber, I guess they're going for "nostalgia." Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Sharpen daily? No thanks. Materials technology has advanced enough to make that a thing of the past...but as Kershaw aims to recreate itself into Gerber, I guess they're going for "nostalgia." Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Yup, if I use it a lot at work I run it across a steel the next day to true up any fold over on the edge before I slip in back into my pocket. If I don't use it so much I might do it weekly.

I'm not claiming it's a great knife...just that it's an inexpensive, heavy, sturdy, working blade for cheap. I said in my first post I'd personally spend the extra $11 and get a Rat I. Or at least one of the Kershaws in 8Cr13MoV for around $18-$20. Or get a Rat I in D2 steel on Amazon for around $44.

But, again, if you know of a better folder for $13.50 then please post it so we can all enjoy. Or do you just like to argue that cheap knives are cheap?
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But, again, if you know of a better folder for $13.50 then please post it so we can all enjoy. Or do you just like to argue that cheap knives are cheap?
I simply point out that buying this knife is the same as flushing the money down the bowl. You're welcome to disagree with that, but once you have handled and used a knife of quality, the reasonable person understands why this is a hard pass. And no, I'm not talking some ridiculously overpriced custom. The RAT-1 is a good minimum quality recommendation. Lowest price is often an unwise move.
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my grnadpa loves his!
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