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Last Edited by Kapidex June 2, 2018 at 12:05 PM
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To everyone discussing here whether the title says MLC or whether the reviews says TLC, here is what I have to say about it:

Samsung just pulled a Samsung for the spec sheet of their drives.

In other words, they made a misleading marketing terminology to make their EVO line look better on the title, and completely ignored and disregarded the terminology that everyone else is using.

Here is what they did for example:
- The 860 PRO Data Sheet says the drive uses a 2-bit MLC.
- The 860 EVO Data Sheet says the drive uses a 3-bit MLC.

See what happened there? They are rebranding the TLC terminology (or triple level cell) as 3-bit MLC (a.k.a. triple level cell, too).

You can totally tell that their "3-bit MLC" has only 50% the endurance of their "2-bit MLC", the data sheets indicate that the 3-bit cells can only be written 600 times, but the 2-bit cells can be written 1200 times! (compare 600TBW vs 1200TBW @ 1TB on the 860 line).

They just pulled this one out their a** to mislead the market and profit, the correct way of calling a 3-bit cell is TLC , and a 2-bit cell is MLC.

On paper, the 860 EVO has 200% minimum the endurance of the 850 EVO, is that really so? Or is it that they are learning from statistics that they underestimated the initial endurance calculation and that their TLC holds longer than expected?

To me, this is all marketing BS and you should read the data sheet if you want to make sure you find what you are looking for.

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Info from my mail:
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Not a bad price. Prices are finally starting to come down for SSDs, thank god. This was $25 more about 2 months ago on Newegg but that deal included a free game key for FC 5. This is a good deal for those missed that deal and/or does not need the game key.
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Is it still the case with SSD that they can only be written to so many times? Are SSD going to replace external hard drives eventually?
Yes, but the same issue exists with standard HDs (magnetic platter drives) as well. I'm fairly certain that standard drives are going to slowly be phased out for new SSD's over the next few years.
I believe it takes hundreds of thousands of writes to a flash drive for it to even begin to fail. So longevity should probably be the least of your worries unless you're planning to use the drive for something super drive write intensive.
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Isn't this a decent price? Surprised this isn't getting more action, especially after the Tiger Direct one the other day. What is better for $250?
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Taxes in cali, but great price for everyone else out there
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FYI code didn't work for me.

"This super-special deal is only for you and a select few we recognize as our most loyal subscribers. This promo code is exclusive to this email and is only redeemable if you've received this email from us directly. Enjoy this Blitz Deal, and be sure to check back often for more exclusive promo codes. If you're not a current email subscriber, you must first sign up to qualify. You will receive your first email within one week after signing up. Promo code expires at 11:59pm PT on 06/02/18 or SOONER, based on fund availability."

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got it for $224 with far cry a month ago.

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I'm glad you guys keep buying these TLC consumer drives. Leave the MLC enterprise drives at <$0.20/GB for me.
This drive is MLC...
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I'm glad you guys keep buying these TLC consumer drives. Leave the MLC enterprise drives at <$0.20/GB for me.
This drive is MLC... It's in the title on the store page
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the NAND memory is rated for 1500 - 5000 program/erase cycles - that said, original estimates for 1st gen TLC estimated a lifespan of 10.2+ yrs, long past. and in more modern SSDsshou newer controllers and caching tech improve endurance beyond that of older SSDs including MLC versions.

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Is it still the case with SSD that they can only be written to so many times? Are SSD going to replace external hard drives eventually?
only thousands per/cell
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Yes, but the same issue exists with standard HDs (magnetic platter drives) as well. I'm fairly certain that standard drives are going to slowly be phased out for new SSD's over the next few years.
I believe it takes hundreds of thousands of writes to a flash drive for it to even begin to fail. So longevity should probably be the least of your worries unless you're planning to use the drive for something super drive write intensive.
myth dispelled, you should do some homework on the rated TBW of newer SSDs over yout "MLC" SSDs.- NAND isn't the necessarily the primary factor.
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I'm glad you guys keep buying these TLC consumer drives. Leave the MLC enterprise drives at <$0.20/GB for me.
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