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Costco Members: 2-pack Nest Protect Battery Smoke & CO2 Detector $199.99

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What are tech savvy peeps thoughts on this and the smart thermostat. I have read on blogs that these and thermostats are easily hackable through WiFi? Why technically would a hacker want to hack into these devices?
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What are tech savvy peeps thoughts on this and the smart thermostat. I have read on blogs that these and thermostats are easily hackable through WiFi? Why technically would a hacker want to hack into these devices?
I don't want to use Nest thermostat because I am not convinced that Google won't kill the product line and brick your device, which they long history of doing with other products that people actually use. I don't think they would do that to the smoke detectors, for safety reasons. But I'm not convinced they won't kill off the thermostat product line in the future.

In general, a smart device is more simple. So it may be easier to hack. People would want to hack it to use it as a gateway to get into your network to get to other devices. Smart devices don't usually get security patches as quick as your laptop/desktop for example. So it may be easier to gain entry through that device.
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What are tech savvy peeps thoughts on this and the smart thermostat. I have read on blogs that these and thermostats are easily hackable through WiFi? Why technically would a hacker want to hack into these devices?
If I recall correctly, by hacking into the vulnerable devices such as Ring, Nest, etc, you're able to access the home network through a "back door". From there, all connected devices are potentially compromised.
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This is a CO (Carbon Monoxide) and not a CO2 (Carbon dioxide) detector.
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If you dont drink a lot of soda
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Can I use these on my wired smoke detector or I have to replace all of them so every smoke detector talk with each other?
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Can I use these on my wired smoke detector or I have to replace all of them so every smoke detector talk with each other?
According to almost every building code in every county and state - they must interconnect and talk to each other. You will probably have to replace all of them to be up to code.
Some counties/states even require you to add one to each bedroom, even if you're replacing existing ones.
Make sure to look up your city/county/state building code or ask the local fire department, just to make sure.
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If I recall correctly, by hacking into the vulnerable devices such as Ring, Nest, etc, you're able to access the home network through a "back door". From there, all connected devices are potentially compromised.
... which is why you want to put all your IoT devices (Ring, Nest, Alexa, etc.) on a WiFi "guest" network. Your normal computers and printers that need to talk directly to each other go on the main network (wifi or wired), and the guest network gets all the things that only need to talk to the Internet. Guest networks normally are set with something called "node isolation", which means that each client (device) on the network is unable to see or talk to other clients (devices). Devices on the Guest network are still able to see & talk to the Internet, but if an IoT device on the Guest network gets compromised, it can't do anything bad to your home computers on the Main network or your other IoT devices on the Guest network (since it can't see any of them).
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Anybody have any info on release of Nest Protect 3rd generation? I tried chatting with a Nest rep recently to see if they offer any deals when purchasing 8 of these at once and they won't budge on the price. I asked if there was a chance a new generation of these were coming out and they could only recommend waiting a few months to find out. It's starting to feel like we should be at the end of the 2nd generation of these and I'm not jumping in unless they are going for ~$80 each since I have to get so many. Really sick of the chirping of the current detectors though, only thing predictable about them is that they'll go off between the hours of 1am-7am.
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The wired ones just came in stock.
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... which is why you want to put all your IoT devices (Ring, Nest, Alexa, etc.) on a WiFi "guest" network. Your normal computers and printers that need to talk directly to each other go on the main network (wifi or wired), and the guest network gets all the things that only need to talk to the Internet. Guest networks normally are set with something called "node isolation", which means that each client (device) on the network is unable to see or talk to other clients (devices). Devices on the Guest network are still able to see & talk to the Internet, but if an IoT device on the Guest network gets compromised, it can't do anything bad to your home computers on the Main network or your other IoT devices on the Guest network (since it can't see any of them).
That is a great concept. Thanks for sharing!
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At&t has these on clearance for $50 - battery type
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At&t has these on clearance for $50 - battery type
Care to expound? Or provide a link?
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