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Looks like amazon has this deal on the 23 and Me kit for $69.

23andMe DNA Test Ancestry Personal Genetic Service $69 via 23andme@ Amazon https://www.amazon.com/23andMe-An...ds=23andme

23andMe DNA Test - Health + Ancestry Personal Genetic Service
$139 via 23andme@Amazon https://www.amazon.com/23andMe-DN...ds=23andme



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$69 to give away your genetic makeup for them to use and sell as they want to? No, thanks. I'll be interested if there come regulations that protect consumers from this.
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I agree.
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$69 to give away your genetic makeup for them to use and sell as they want to? No, thanks. I'll be interested if there come regulations that protect consumers from this.
What exactly are they selling your genetic makeup for? I understand to potentially create an ancestral link but I'm not sure what else the real fear is. I'm being totally honest, I know next to nothing about these kits but always thought it would be cool. What are the true privacy concerns with this?
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What exactly are they selling your genetic makeup for? I understand to potentially create an ancestral link but I'm not sure what else the real fear is. I'm being totally honest, I know next to nothing about these kits but always thought it would be cool. What are the true privacy concerns with this?
If you murder someone and have used one of these before, there's a good chance that the law will catch up with you :/ .though I'm trying to be funny, I do agree that there is not enough privacy protection for this sort of thing.
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What exactly are they selling your genetic makeup for? I understand to potentially create an ancestral link but I'm not sure what else the real fear is. I'm being totally honest, I know next to nothing about these kits but always thought it would be cool. What are the true privacy concerns with this?
What people don't know is that even though you order just one specific test (i.e. ancestral test), it doesn't necessarily mean the lab just tested for those markers related to ancestry. In order to keep the cost down the lab typically will run your sample in a "panel" that has hundreds if not thousands of markers related to different types of phenotypes. And they will only release data/report for what customers had paid for. The costs to run samples in the lab is still very high. So in reality even though you only ordered ancestry, the information/data you did not pay for is still there being "banked". If you decide you want to upgrade later with another test that they offer, all they have to do is release that information for that test without having to rerun your sample through the lab.

Now what some people are afraid of is how that data/information is handled, which in reality might not have any ramifications now but in the future can be used against you in certain situations. For example a genetic company sells all this information to a "health insurance company". The insurance company then gains access to your genetic information and they determine that you are predisposition to have a certain disease due to your genetics. They can deny you coverage or insurance completely knowing that you will need certain treatments in the future as the disease develops. Technically this is illegal and i believe there are rules that prevent insurance companies from discriminating, but who knows what can happen in the future.

Now the current reality with genetics is there are a lot of stuff that is still unknown and we are learning everyday. I would not say that genetic testing is bad, it's just "scary" because of the unknown. That data that's being banked can also be used for future studies, which in turn helps us understand how our body functions and what makes us unique from each other. Again it's not all bad and in fact if used properly your genetics can lead to actionable items that can better an individuals life.
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What people don't know is that even though you order just one specific test (i.e. ancestral test), it doesn't necessarily mean the lab just tested for those markers related to ancestry. In order to keep the cost down the lab typically will run your sample in a "panel" that has hundreds if not thousands of markers related to different types of phenotypes. And they will only release data/report for what customers had paid for. The costs to run samples in the lab is still very high. So in reality even though you only ordered ancestry, the information/data you did not pay for is still there being "banked". If you decide you want to upgrade later with another test that they offer, all they have to do is release that information for that test without having to rerun your sample through the lab.

Now what some people are afraid of is how that data/information is handled, which in reality might not have any ramifications now but in the future can be used against you in certain situations. For example a genetic company sells all this information to a "health insurance company". The insurance company then gains access to your genetic information and they determine that you are predisposition to have a certain disease due to your genetics. They can deny you coverage or insurance completely knowing that you will need certain treatments in the future as the disease develops. Technically this is illegal and i believe there are rules that prevent insurance companies from discriminating, but who knows what can happen in the future.

Now the current reality with genetics is there are a lot of stuff that is still unknown and we are learning everyday. I would not say that genetic testing is bad, it's just "scary" because of the unknown. That data that's being banked can also be used for future studies, which in turn helps us understand how our body functions and what makes us unique from each other. Again it's not all bad and in fact if used properly your genetics can lead to actionable items that can better an individuals life.
Somebody has watched Gattaca too many times.
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Somebody has watched Gattaca too many times.
I work in the industry.
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I work in the industry.
It's ironic how his comment just emphasizes the importance of yours. Repped for trying to give people fair warning.

There are plenty of other scenarios people likely haven't considered, like having DNA that closely resembles some found in a criminal investigation. Wouldn't be an issue if you (and your family members) kept it private, but sharing your DNA makes it possible for things like this to happen: https://www.wired.com/2015/10/fam...-suspects/
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Somebody has watched Gattaca too many times.
Actually no. I read through the T&C of a few of these before settling on the Nat Geo one for ancestry only. For all of them, your genetic info becomes part of the assets of the company and in the event of company bankruptcy / financial distress, they can sell them off and then no longer be responsible for their subsequent use.
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You might want to research who you are giving your information to and why
Anne Wojcicki - CEO
Sergey Brin (former spouse) - Co-founder of Google and Director of X
Susan Wojcicki (sister) - CEO of YouTube
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Just a side note...
These sale prices ($69/$139) can also be had during 23andme's Father's Day Sale, which ends on June 17th.
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