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Synology DS1817+ (2GB) Diskless System High Performance NAS Optimized for Encryption and Intensive Tasks $825

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Newegg has the Synology 1817+ 2GB for 825$ after $25 off with code: 612PCPHS27
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108487 [newegg.com]

additionally the Synology 1817+ 8GB is 929$ after $20 off with code: 612PCPHS26
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6822108488

Personally, I think the 2GB version makes more sense if you intend to upgrade to 16GB down the road.

This beats the lowest Amazon price of $829.19 on March 29th
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I remember when these were so expensive. My 1512+ was around this price when I bought it. Good deal!
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It's better than no savings at all.... but still not very slick.... and not as much of a discount as I was hoping for on an 8 bay synology.
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It's better than no savings at all.... but still not very slick.... and not as much of a discount as I was hoping for on an 8 bay synology.
I hear ya, I was hoping for $50 discount but I haven't seen these go on sale much at all. Best savings have been through Amazon Warehouse, but then it's tax and no warranty.
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these things rarely go on sale and when they do, it's about $20-$30 off for the $500-$600 models. given this is the 8 bay model in the high $800's-$900's, i would expect the discount to be more than $25.

it's just hard to swallow when on Black Friday this was $679. i know we don't have a time machine and the next black friday is 5 months away..., i'm just saying. hard to swallow just a $25 discount for something this expensive.

i also don't understand how Synology keeps getting away with putting shitty atoms into their Plus series NAS boxes, and old ones to boot. Synology came out with the DS1817+ last year, and used a 5 yrs old processor, and a weak one
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it's just hard to swallow when on Black Friday this was $679. i know we don't have a time machine and the next black friday is 5 months away..., i'm just saying. hard to swallow just a $25 discount for something this expensive.
I bought it on BF. It was a good deal. As for the atom processors, any way they can save money since there's not much competition. I'm just glad it doesnt have self-brick 'feature'.
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I bought it on BF. It was a good deal. As for the atom processors, any way they can save money since there's not much competition. I'm just glad it doesnt have self-brick 'feature'.
Synology was king for years and years, but QNAP caught up starting about 3 years ago. while QNAP is still overpriced for what you can build yourself (i won't go there), you get way way more for your money with QNAP than with Synology from a hardware standpoint. QTS now is comparable to Synology's DSM. DSM used to be way more intuitive to use, but starting in early 2017 QNAP re-did a lot of their menus and now everything can be found without having to reference the manual. the manual is still needed for advanced features, which is the same case with DSM. QNAP's mobile apps (at least for android) run better and are way more functional than the Synology suite. i can't speak to their iOS versions. the Synology vs QNAP discussion will go on for eternity as long as those 2 companies exist. i decided to go with QNAP and run an assortment of 8-Bays, 4-Bays, and a 2-Bay comprising of onsite and remote locations. i am currently repurposing an old WHS server and will be dabbling with FreeNAS next.

putting all of that aside, i don't see how $25 off something that is normally $850, is a deal at all in any regard. especially when it's from a retailer who starting January 2018, began to charge sales tax in many states outside of NJ and CA. being in PA, i was one of those states. luckily last black friday the sales tax thing didn't kick in yet. if one absolutely needs one of these things now, you might be better off getting B&H to PM if it's sold there (i know B&M sells QNAP)
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What exactly is this product?
This is a network attached storage device. It's essentially a computer for dedicated storage which is why it has so many disk bays. You just plug it into your router / switch and access it from your desktop.

It also has software allowing you to set it up and configure it more intuitively than you would from command line.

If you hoard gobs and gobs of data for the long term, then devices like these are your bread and butter.
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As a reference, DS1817+ with 2GB was $879 - 169.80 promo code = $679.20 during Black Friday 2017. I bought one back then and a bunch of WD Easystore external hard drives from Best Buy.
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As a reference, DS1817+ with 2GB was $879 - 169.80 promo code = $679.20 during Black Friday 2017. I bought one back then and a bunch of WD Easystore external hard drives from Best Buy.
I remember that deal... missed out by minutes.... hope they have that back soon.
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garbage. there is no way this thing should cost this much. junk CPU, no M.2 slots for SSD cache drives, only 1 PCI E slot for expansion.

the QNAP TS 873 is a much better deal. it has TWO M.2 slots for cache already built in so you don't have to waste you PCI E slots (or money to buy expansion card) for that. you can the PCI E slots for a GPU or 10Gbit NIC.

i actually owned an 1815+ and tried this one too. the 1815+ was using a SATA III controller for the first 6 bays and a SATA I controller for the last 2. so populating the last 2 bays actually slowed down the NAS. i wasn't too upset because i got it cheap second hand. around $450.

i had this unit too but returned and got the QNAP TVS 87. it WAAAYYY faster. with an X550-T2 intel NIC in one PCI E slot and i'm getting 900+MB/s read speeds and 650+MB/s write speeds. i was also able to add an eSATA PCI E card with 4 ports to the second slot and attached 4 additional drives in a home made eSATA enclosure. all while running two 1TB 850 EVO SSDs for cache. can't do that with the synology.

the QNAP also has 4 ram slots, so if you need a lot of RAM, you don't have to drop buckets on 8GB or 16GB DIMMS. you can buy 4GB dimms for next to nothing on flea bay and load 16GB or RAM onto it. this synology only has 2 slots due to junk CPU
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garbage. there is no way this thing should cost this much. junk CPU, no M.2 slots for SSD cache drives, only 1 PCI E slot for expansion.

the QNAP TS 873 is a much better deal. it has TWO M.2 slots for cache already built in so you don't have to use you PCI E slots for that. you can the PCI E slots for a GPU or 10Gbit NIC.

i actually owned an 1815+ and tried this one too. the 1815+ was using a SATA III controller for the first 6 bays and a SATA I controller for the last 2. so populating the last 2 bays actually slowed down the NAS. i wasn't too upset because i got it cheap second hand. around $450.

i had this unit too but returned and got the QNAP TVS 87. it WAAAYYY faster. with an X550-T2 intel NIC in one PCI E slot and i'm getting 900+MB/s read speeds and 650+MB/s write speeds. i was also able to add an eSATA PCI E card with 4 ports to the second slot and attached 4 additional drives in a home made eSATA enclosure. all while running two 1TB 850 EVO SSDs for cache. can't do that with the synology.

the QNAP also has 4 ram slots, so if you need a lot of RAM, you don't have to drop buckets on 8GB or 16GB DIMMS. you can buy 4GB dimms for next to nothing on flea bay and load 16GB or RAM onto it. this synology only has 2 slots due to junk CPU
And you paid *what* for the QNAP TVS-87x? Cost wise they are not even in the same ball park even for the i3...
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And you paid *what* for the QNAP TVS-87x? Cost wise they are not even in the same ball park even for the i3...
I paid $1200 for it. but you don't have to get a TVS 873. you can get a TS 873, which is the same exact thing minus the video output, but costs between $850-900, it fluctuates. i've seen them for 850 a bunch of times at B&H. and you can add video output later and still have a PCI E slot to spare

where did the i3 come from? the atom chip in this NAS is NOT an i3. it is a stripped down, low clock speed POS with limited instruction sets. benchmark wise, the AMD CPU in the TS and TVS 873 is more than 2x faster in multi thread and 3x faster in single thread performance.

EDIT: the AMD CPU in the QNAP also has a built in GPU which helps with video transcoding. i could list the positive of the QNAP all day, but i feel like it will fly over people's heads anyway
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