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This UniFi switch delivers eight gigabit Ethernet ports w/ 802.3af/at PoE+; 24V passive PoE and two SPF ports offer optical connectivity. Limit 2 per customer. Offer valid through July 30, 2018 or while supplies last.

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Network Engineer who runs Ubiquiti at home;
I have two Ubiquiti switches at home, a cheaper 8 port poe model, and a non poe 24 port.

I had capable HP & Cisco switches before but upgraded since I loved the Unifi interface on the access points.

Figured I would also get switches to expand my information and capabilities in the unifi environment.

Here is my short summary of what I think.
1.) Do not get PoE unless you plan to use it, the switches cost way more, use more power, and create more heat/noise. Almost everybody I know that got a 24 port or larger PoE switch to run say 3 or 4 things regrets it a lot because its too loud for a quiet home area and sucks up power. If you just need 2 or 3 things consider PoE injectors and get a non PoE switch.

2.) Being somebody that loves the unifi environment, after getting my Ubiquiti switches. I was underwhelmed by what they added for me. It lacks a lot of basic features I am used to having in a managed switch, the UI does not expose a lot of information, I had to SSH into it and get to a hidden back end just to get the MAC address table so I could find a problem device that was not grabbing an IP on my network for example.

3.) They cost almost 2x more than very capable switches from other brands, and this particular model is not rack mount without brackets, and some of them do not have bracket holes so not sure if this one does.

4.) The AP's do well in unifi just stand alone, but to really get the most out of it you need one of the security gateways as well, if you do not plan to use one then you will only be taking advantage of less than half of what it really can do for you.

TLDR: Ubiquiti switches are nice, but not nearly the value there amazing AP's are. Unless you want one for a very specific reason, there are better alternatives.
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I have this, as well as a USG and a AC AP Pro. They all work wonderfully together with the Unifi Controller. We do a lot of downloading and video streaming. In fact 100% of our TV either comes from the QNAP or one of the various streaming services (Netflix, DirectTV Now, Prime Video, HBO Go, iTunes, etc).

When I ordered it, I found the unit was much larger than I had expected it to be. Mine is in the structured wiring cabinet [imgur.com] in my master bedroom closet, but I was able to use the wings provided, angled down, to mount it into the cabinet. The case of the switch is solid aluminum.

Performance-wise, even with deep packet inspection on, it performs as good if not better than my unmanaged TP-Link 8-port Gigabit switch. I haven't ran any true performance tests, but I haven't had any hiccups yet in speeds on the internal LAN. In addition, since this is a managed switch, you are able to setup VLANs and the like in the Unifi Controller. I used VLANs to segregate off my WiFi traffic from the wired traffic. I intend to create a separate DMZ off the USG at some point, but for now I don't have any servers to hang off it. I would also like to get a 2nd 8-port PoE switch maybe in the future, but would need to get an extended cabinet door [homecontrols.com].

PoE worked straight out of the box. I simply ran a Cat6e from my AP AC Pro to the 8-port switch, plugged it in and it powered right up. I don't have any surveillance cameras, but I imaging they would work just the same. Keep in mind, most of the Unifi APs support daisy chaining, but you have to re-inject the PoE after each hop.

The one thing that did happen recently was that the power supply for the USG went bad so that it wouldn't boot. Because it handled all the DHCP it meant that my Unifi Controller, which was running on my Mac Mini server, was unable to connect to any of the managed devices and thus my entire network shutdown. The centralized management can be both a blessing and a curse, I guess.
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DPI is performed on the USG, not the switches. The only configuration I can think of that would remotely suggest any sort of on-board traffic management is if you're mirroring all traffic to a specific port for further analysis. That, of course, still means no DPI being performed on the switch, but rather the device at the end of the mirrored port.

As to VLANs, you may want to consider segregating guest traffic from home traffic instead of Wifi and wired LAN. And that'll immediately improve security if you have people coming over, rather than needing to wait for a server to justify it.

The cameras may require you to switch from 802.03af/at/bt to "dumb" 12V power depending on which generation of hardware. Ditto older AC-LITEs and AC-LRs.

The AC Pro, HD, SHD, XG and BSXG do have a second port, but the ones common on sale (the AC-LITE and AC-LR) do not. Neither does the nanoHD, which I expect will quickly become quite popular once Ubnt's got sufficient inventory. And please don't daisy chain more than a couple of the APs - you'll kill the downstream bandwidth for each successive AP very, very quickly. It's more designed to handle, for instance, a camera or something else you want to put next to the AP without running a second ethernet cable.

That's odd. As far as I know, the Controller since at least v4.8 is capable of performing L2/L3 discovery to find all the devices, even absent IP addresses. And your network devices should have retained their last assigned IP address until the lease was up or permanently if they were assigned statically.
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Disregard, its working for me now. Apologies. In for 1!
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Just scored mine for 159.00 For training myself for future uses. i just clicked on the and added the item to the cart along with the promo.
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picked this up from newegg in May when it was the same price, amazing piece of hardware.
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I have this, as well as a USG and a AC AP Pro. They all work wonderfully together with the Unifi Controller. We do a lot of downloading and video streaming. In fact 100% of our TV either comes from the QNAP or one of the various streaming services (Netflix, DirectTV Now, Prime Video, HBO Go, iTunes, etc).

When I ordered it, I found the unit was much larger than I had expected it to be. Mine is in the structured wiring cabinet [imgur.com] in my master bedroom closet, but I was able to use the wings provided, angled down, to mount it into the cabinet. The case of the switch is solid aluminum.

Performance-wise, even with deep packet inspection on, it performs as good if not better than my unmanaged TP-Link 8-port Gigabit switch. I haven't ran any true performance tests, but I haven't had any hiccups yet in speeds on the internal LAN. In addition, since this is a managed switch, you are able to setup VLANs and the like in the Unifi Controller. I used VLANs to segregate off my WiFi traffic from the wired traffic. I intend to create a separate DMZ off the USG at some point, but for now I don't have any servers to hang off it. I would also like to get a 2nd 8-port PoE switch maybe in the future, but would need to get an extended cabinet door [homecontrols.com].

PoE worked straight out of the box. I simply ran a Cat6e from my AP AC Pro to the 8-port switch, plugged it in and it powered right up. I don't have any surveillance cameras, but I imaging they would work just the same. Keep in mind, most of the Unifi APs support daisy chaining, but you have to re-inject the PoE after each hop.

The one thing that did happen recently was that the power supply for the USG went bad so that it wouldn't boot. Because it handled all the DHCP it meant that my Unifi Controller, which was running on my Mac Mini server, was unable to connect to any of the managed devices and thus my entire network shutdown. The centralized management can be both a blessing and a curse, I guess.
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I have this, as well as a USG and a AC AP Pro. They all work wonderfully together with the Unifi Controller. We do a lot of downloading and video streaming. In fact 100% of our TV either comes from the QNAP or one of the various streaming services (Netflix, DirectTV Now, Prime Video, HBO Go, iTunes, etc).

When I ordered it, I found the unit was much larger than I had expected it to be. Mine is in the structured wiring cabinet [imgur.com] in my master bedroom closet, but I was able to use the wings provided, angled down, to mount it into the cabinet. The case of the switch is solid aluminum.

Performance-wise, even with deep packet inspection on, it performs as good if not better than my unmanaged TP-Link 8-port Gigabit switch. I haven't ran any true performance tests, but I haven't had any hiccups yet in speeds on the internal LAN. In addition, since this is a managed switch, you are able to setup VLANs and the like in the Unifi Controller. I used VLANs to segregate off my WiFi traffic from the wired traffic. I intend to create a separate DMZ off the USG at some point, but for now I don't have any servers to hang off it. I would also like to get a 2nd 8-port PoE switch maybe in the future, but would need to get an extended cabinet door [homecontrols.com].

PoE worked straight out of the box. I simply ran a Cat6e from my AP AC Pro to the 8-port switch, plugged it in and it powered right up. I don't have any surveillance cameras, but I imaging they would work just the same. Keep in mind, most of the Unifi APs support daisy chaining, but you have to re-inject the PoE after each hop.

The one thing that did happen recently was that the power supply for the USG went bad so that it wouldn't boot. Because it handled all the DHCP it meant that my Unifi Controller, which was running on my Mac Mini server, was unable to connect to any of the managed devices and thus my entire network shutdown. The centralized management can be both a blessing and a curse, I guess.
I'm planning to build my Ubiquiti network at home, so I found your post really helpful. Thanks!
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Performance-wise, even with deep packet inspection on, it performs as good if not better than my unmanaged TP-Link 8-port Gigabit switch. I haven't ran any true performance tests, but I haven't had any hiccups yet in speeds on the internal LAN. In addition, since this is a managed switch, you are able to setup VLANs and the like in the Unifi Controller. I used VLANs to segregate off my WiFi traffic from the wired traffic. I intend to create a separate DMZ off the USG at some point, but for now I don't have any servers to hang off it.
DPI is performed on the USG, not the switches. The only configuration I can think of that would remotely suggest any sort of on-board traffic management is if you're mirroring all traffic to a specific port for further analysis. That, of course, still means no DPI being performed on the switch, but rather the device at the end of the mirrored port.

As to VLANs, you may want to consider segregating guest traffic from home traffic instead of Wifi and wired LAN. And that'll immediately improve security if you have people coming over, rather than needing to wait for a server to justify it.
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PoE worked straight out of the box. I simply ran a Cat6e from my AP AC Pro to the 8-port switch, plugged it in and it powered right up. I don't have any surveillance cameras, but I imaging they would work just the same. Keep in mind, most of the Unifi APs support daisy chaining, but you have to re-inject the PoE after each hop.
The cameras may require you to switch from 802.03af/at/bt to "dumb" 12V power depending on which generation of hardware. Ditto older AC-LITEs and AC-LRs.

The AC Pro, HD, SHD, XG and BSXG do have a second port, but the ones common on sale (the AC-LITE and AC-LR) do not. Neither does the nanoHD, which I expect will quickly become quite popular once Ubnt's got sufficient inventory. And please don't daisy chain more than a couple of the APs - you'll kill the downstream bandwidth for each successive AP very, very quickly. It's more designed to handle, for instance, a camera or something else you want to put next to the AP without running a second ethernet cable.
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The one thing that did happen recently was that the power supply for the USG went bad so that it wouldn't boot. Because it handled all the DHCP it meant that my Unifi Controller, which was running on my Mac Mini server, was unable to connect to any of the managed devices and thus my entire network shutdown. The centralized management can be both a blessing and a curse, I guess.
That's odd. As far as I know, the Controller since at least v4.8 is capable of performing L2/L3 discovery to find all the devices, even absent IP addresses. And your network devices should have retained their last assigned IP address until the lease was up or permanently if they were assigned statically.
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Hi @vnangia and @CodeChimp ,
Since it sounds like the two of you have experience with ubiquiti POE switches, thought id bounce something off you.
I currently have a unmanaged 8 port gigabit switch (i think tplink) for the different rooms in my home and an 8 port 10/100 POE switch with gigabit uplink that has my 6 security cameras hooked to. I added an AC lite late last year and since i wanted gigabit ethernet to it, had to use its power injector and take a port from the gigabit non POE switch.

So now i am thinking of consolidating the two switches by either using a 16 port POE 150W switch that Ubiquiti sells around 300 (see it on sale sometimes for 270sh) or use two of the OPs 8 port. The latter will cost a little more and i will lose one port in each to link them (though i could pay more and buy a convertor to use the SFP port to SFP port) but i avoid the fan and if one switch fails, the other will still be there. In reality fan isnt a big issue since the whole setup will be on the wall in my basement storage room.

Any thoughts one vs the other? Another issue will be space, since my 16 cables terminate where the switches currently are and it isnt a big enough spot to put a big closet.
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Not coming here for complete home network design advice, but looking for thoughts on integrating this into a planned Ubiquity-centric network. I've started collecting the pieces I think I'll need, including an EdgeRouter X and three AC Pro access points that will replace the ASUS RT-AC68U wireless routers I'm currently using (one as a router, the other two as APs; it's less than satisfactory for various reasons). I'm also planning to use a pair of NanoStation AC to connect the house to the shop, for which hardwiring is impractical at best. I have a Netgear GS724TPv2 managed switch that I'm just getting set up. I went with that switch because it provides POE+, which I intend(ed) to use for the Ubiquiti APs as well as some cameras I'll eventually get around to installing. I'll be running Cat6 everywhere when the time comes. My Synology will be running the UniFi Controller software.

That said, is there any advantage or disadvantage to adding this switch to the mix? I was looking at it prior to finding a bargain on the Netgear, but I couldn't find a good deal at the time and the Netgear provides 3x as many ports. At $160 I'd consider picking one up, but only if there's a real benefit to adding it to what I already have. Obviously I'm not an expert on this and am using this as an opportunity to learn more.

In other words, what would I gain by adding this to an already (presumably) functional network? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Ordered one with ShopRunner, so free returns -- buy now, think later. laugh out loud I'd still greatly appreciate input on the above question.
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Network Engineer who runs Ubiquiti at home;
I have two Ubiquiti switches at home, a cheaper 8 port poe model, and a non poe 24 port.

I had capable HP & Cisco switches before but upgraded since I loved the Unifi interface on the access points.

Figured I would also get switches to expand my information and capabilities in the unifi environment.

Here is my short summary of what I think.
1.) Do not get PoE unless you plan to use it, the switches cost way more, use more power, and create more heat/noise. Almost everybody I know that got a 24 port or larger PoE switch to run say 3 or 4 things regrets it a lot because its too loud for a quiet home area and sucks up power. If you just need 2 or 3 things consider PoE injectors and get a non PoE switch.

2.) Being somebody that loves the unifi environment, after getting my Ubiquiti switches. I was underwhelmed by what they added for me. It lacks a lot of basic features I am used to having in a managed switch, the UI does not expose a lot of information, I had to SSH into it and get to a hidden back end just to get the MAC address table so I could find a problem device that was not grabbing an IP on my network for example.

3.) They cost almost 2x more than very capable switches from other brands, and this particular model is not rack mount without brackets, and some of them do not have bracket holes so not sure if this one does.

4.) The AP's do well in unifi just stand alone, but to really get the most out of it you need one of the security gateways as well, if you do not plan to use one then you will only be taking advantage of less than half of what it really can do for you.

TLDR: Ubiquiti switches are nice, but not nearly the value there amazing AP's are. Unless you want one for a very specific reason, there are better alternatives.
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3.) They cost almost 2x more than very capable switches from other brands, and this particular model is not rack mount without brackets, and some of them do not have bracket holes so not sure if this one does.
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Great insight, ViciousXUSMC. Thanks!

With regard to the mounting brackets, this switch does come with brackets, but only for wall mounting. It isn't as wide as a standard rack, and the only rackmount solution I've seen so far is a custom bracket on eBay that's $40-50 (obviously ridiculous).
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Network Engineer who runs Ubiquiti at home;
I have two Ubiquiti switches at home, a cheaper 8 port poe model, and a non poe 24 port.

I had capable HP & Cisco switches before but upgraded since I loved the Unifi interface on the access points.

Figured I would also get switches to expand my information and capabilities in the unifi environment.

Here is my short summary of what I think.
1.) Do not get PoE unless you plan to use it, the switches cost way more, use more power, and create more heat/noise. Almost everybody I know that got a 24 port or larger PoE switch to run say 3 or 4 things regrets it a lot because its too loud for a quiet home area and sucks up power. If you just need 2 or 3 things consider PoE injectors and get a non PoE switch.

2.) Being somebody that loves the unifi environment, after getting my Ubiquiti switches. I was underwhelmed by what they added for me. It lacks a lot of basic features I am used to having in a managed switch, the UI does not expose a lot of information, I had to SSH into it and get to a hidden back end just to get the MAC address table so I could find a problem device that was not grabbing an IP on my network for example.

3.) They cost almost 2x more than very capable switches from other brands, and this particular model is not rack mount without brackets, and some of them do not have bracket holes so not sure if this one does.

4.) The AP's do well in unifi just stand alone, but to really get the most out of it you need one of the security gateways as well, if you do not plan to use one then you will only be taking advantage of less than half of what it really can do for you.

TLDR: Ubiquiti switches are nice, but not nearly the value there amazing AP's are. Unless you want one for a very specific reason, there are better alternatives.
What would you recommend over this Ubiquiti 8-port PoE switch?
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