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Pioneer Elite F4 Powered WiFi Smart Speaker with Alexa $69 + free s/h

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Pioneer Elite F4 Wireless Smart Speaker w/ Alexa Voice (VAFW40) [buydig.com] $69 using coupon code IPX14

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  • Features Amazon Alexa Voice Service - Alexa helps you out when your hands are full—all you have to do is ask. A vast library of skills allows you to create an Alexa experience that suits you.
  • DTS Play-Fi allows you to enjoy high-quality music from online services including Pandora, SiriusXM, and Amazon Music, as well as networked media servers and your device library, over Wi-Fi.
  • Voice-controlled home automation - Control selected and network-connected smart thermostats, smart lighting devices, and other smart devices that work with Alexa by voice.
  • Audio quality is outstanding with twin 2.5-inch woofers powered by separate switching amplifiers. Sound spreads evenly with minimal distortion and loads of agile bass thanks to dual passive radiators.
  • Built-in Wi-Fi selects the 5 GHz band in households with network traffic congestion to enable a faster and more stable connection.
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Does anyone have this and could share their experience?
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Since Alexa's capability of playing music from a home server BLOWS, it's disappointing that Pioneer's strategically vague about what exactly this can do. If it's just tapping into the music side of DLNA, then voice control is a no-go and this is no different than a Bluetooth speaker that needs the usual coddling to play anything.
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setup a Plex sever in raspberry pi. You can play your own musics on alexa.

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Since Alexa's capability of playing music from a home server BLOWS, it's disappointing that Pioneer's strategically vague about what exactly this can do. If it's just tapping into the music side of DLNA, then voice control is a no-go and this is no different than a Bluetooth speaker that needs the usual coddling to play anything.
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setup a Plex sever in raspberry pi. You can play your own musics on alexa.
I already have Plex Music streaming through Alexa via a 24/7 server. But it doesn't work well at all -- horribly, in fact, with voice search by artist or album title or song. And I'm saying that this product probably can't even do that.
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Does anyone have this and could share their experience?
No experience. But the fact that it launched less than a year ago at $199 and it's already going for $69 tells me it probably isn't that great.

That said, it does have aux and Bluetooth input, and Pioneer Elite equipment usually has good sound quality. So it might be worthwhile that price just as a speaker. But I wouldn't expect much out of the app and Alexa support.
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This is a Re-branded Phorus PS10 speaker [phorus.com]. ($99 on Amazon [amazon.com]). The Phorus was also $200+ 9 months ago.

It is really 2 totally different systems built into 1. Voice control with Alexa is a bit limited in terms of music sources/multi-room.

But, it also has a full DTS/Play-fi capabilities built in, and this system (app controlled, not voice controlled) does a lot more stuff. The Phorus link above has a lot of the details.

Lowest price the Pioneer has been. I have not heard it and can find no professional reviews on either brand's version...but for $70 it seems like a nice deal. In Play-fi mode you can use 2 for stereo in one room.
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I own two of the Phorus units in referenced. These are great sounding speakers. I use it with the Phorus app as well as a speaker for my television. The alexa functionality is part of the deal, but I only use this speaker for sound.
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This speaker seems too good to be true. I just purchased a few Sonos from Lowes. Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with the sound quality for the cost. Plus I have to completely buy into the Sonos ecosystem which includes REALLY expensive subs and soundbars...

I'm researching this a bit more. Again, the price drop makes this seem like there might be something wrong here.
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After much research, I'm strongly considering purchasing these and give them a shot to compare against my current Sonos.

Like Sonos, the main functionality of these speakers is for multi-room audio play back as either a single source or stereo sound. Think music or, maybe, a book on tape/podcast.

To stream that audio you would use an app on your phone, Phorus or Play-Fi. These apps offer a few of the most popular music choices like Spotify and Pandora as well as Air Play. I would also like to stream Podcasts and Sonos offers Sticher for this. The software may continue to improve or it may just get replaced all together. Worth taking the risk?

I was hoping I could incorporate these speakers as part of a wireless home audio setup. That CAN be done but it requires a Play-Fi Surround Master (Polk Omni SB1+ is the example I've found). That master can then take ANY audio source you provide it and stream it over your wireless speakers as part of a 5.1 surround system. The Polk version is pretty pricey right now.

For surround sound, it seems like the functionality is "about the same" as Sonos. To make it work, you have to buy an expensive soundbar. With Play-Fi you may have more options in the future that are coming from the best audio manufactures out there because this is a DTS open source product. With Sonos, your stuck with their product line.

Here are two good reads on Play-Fi Surround and DTS Play-Fi.

https://play-fi.com/faq/entry/set...i-surround
https://www.whathifi.com/advice/d...ed-to-know
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I bought 2. I'd probably buy 4 if I had more confidence in the software.
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Alexa on Echo devices is pretty powerful. This is a watered down version of Alexa, based on Amazon reviews. It can't drop in/intercom into other Echo devices on the same network. The reviews say it sounds good, but is very limited on the Alexa side. So it really depends on your needs.

I personally have a smart home integration with Alexa in the center of it, so this is not a fit for me. Amazon is still listing it for $199.
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I bought 2. I'd probably buy 4 if I had more confidence in the software.
You bought two SEPARATELY correct? Only allows discount on 1 speak, did you do two different transactions?
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In 4 one.
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